7 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Power Rankings are beauty pageants, just like that poop stain on the Devils who won MVP and inferior Josh Allen taking Lamar Jackson's MVP last year.

Rice had 21 TDs in 12 games in 1987 with Young throwing 10 TDs to 0 picks and Montana being far worse including scab stats.

The popularity club voted for Elway and Montana a bunch so Elway won the MVP... in a year when Rice had 22 rushing and 23 total TDs in 12 legit games.

You can be 100% sure of this for all those power rankings. If the Eagles had the exact stats as the Rams with the exact scores and the Rams had the Eagles...

Its close, but were giving #1 to LA based on the head to head win.

I think the voters got tired of giving the mvp award to a player who is a playoff non factor.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t know if I fully agree with what I’m saying either. I’m not as hard lined as I used to be. I’ve just feel like I’ve been observing this a ton over the last 3 years with multiple play callers and I feel like the hitch route data is a bit of a peak behind their curtain. So I’m trying to explain it.

Imagine being a surgeon with years and years of experience. You know various different techniques to go about it different operations. Youve studied and have your own style. Your practice is shaped by your experiences, and you have learned what works best for you, what provides the best outcomes for your patients.

The hospital sticks a high school kid in the OR with you and says, coach him through surgery- he is the one who will be preforming it.

How do you coach him to do a very complicated procedure when you know he lacks many necessary skills, and he is not yet even capable of understanding basic theory. He can possibly carry out basic techniques, but does not understand the when, and why to pivot if needed. You, and he are very stuck on doing things 1 certain way now. No matter what.

You are the surgeon whos name is out there. Basically, like you are James Andrews with the Andrews Institute. But how are you going to continue to put out a brilliant product when provided with such a student operating under your name?

Are you even capable of dumbing it down enough? Or is that next to impossible? Can you even imagine how basic his capabilities will be even if you try? Can you imagine what is going on in his head and what drives his decision making processes when you know he lacks the knowledge of so many foundational principles?

Bad outcomes happen. Now you are replaced. Its the next experienced surgeon's job to try to make this kid do a good job. And the next one, and the next one.

Word of mouth spreads, says dont go to the Andrews institute. Hes a terrible surgeon. He doesnt know what he is doing.

Everyone loves the high school kid though. Doogie Houser is a genius!

3 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

https://x.com/PHLEaglesNation/status/1990947243357298957?s=20

He might pass Hackett for worst OC of the last 25 years. And by OC I mean 80% Patullo and 20% whatever the hell Siri is doing to not lead the team and the offense in any way at all.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Is that because of all the void years Howie did for Lane during his career?

More so the extensions they seemingly give him every year

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Imagine being a surgeon with years and years of experience. You know various different techniques to go about it different operations. Youve studied and have your own style. Your practice is shaped by your experiences, and you have learned what works best for you, what provides the best outcomes for your patients.

The hospital sticks a high school kid in the OR with you and says, coach him through surgery- he is the one who will be preforming it.

How do you coach him to do a very complicated procedure when you know he lacks many necessary skills, and he is not yet even capable of understanding basic theory. He can possibly carry out basic techniques, but does not understand the when, and why to pivot if needed. You, and he are very stuck on doing things 1 certain way now. No matter what.

You are the surgeon whos name is out there. Basically, like you are James Andrews with the Andrews Institute. But how are you going to continue to put out a brilliant product when provided with such a student operating under your name?

Are you even capable of dumbing it down enough? Or is that next to impossible? Can you even imagine how basic his capabilities will be even if you try? Can you imagine what is going on in his head and what drives his decision making processes when you know he lacks the knowledge of so many foundational principles?

It’s a very good analogy, but in fairness, Hurts isn’t a high school student. Every patient would be dead in minutes. We are talking a surgical resident who is…limited. Some residents actually are very good at spine and very bad at brain (or the other way around). And we have to strike a balance of encouraging what they are actually good at and will do when released into the wild with forcing in someone of what they aren’t so they can safely graduate. But if I had to tell them what to do and how to do it and I couldn’t step in…yea I’d be so freaking risk averse I’d keep it to what I knew they could handle exclusively.

41 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t know if I fully agree with what I’m saying either. I’m not as hard lined as I used to be. I’ve just feel like I’ve been observing this a ton over the last 3 years with multiple play callers and I feel like the hitch route data is a bit of a peak behind their curtain. So I’m trying to explain it.

I don’t want to say they are playing possum, but they do have the talent to do so if they actually wanted to.

But do I think they know they can do a lot more, but don’t want to just yet? Sometimes it certainly feels that way

4 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I don’t want to say they are playing possum, but they do have the talent to do so if they actually wanted to.

But do I think they know they can do a lot more, but don’t want to just yet? Sometimes it certainly feels that way

So, they are just waiting for Mickey Goldmill to tell them to switch to southpaw in the 15th round?

Just now, Freshmilk said:

So, they are just waiting for Mickey Goldmill to tell them to switch to southpaw in the 15th round?

No tricks I ain’t switchin

But sadly no. Do I think they’re holding at least some things back? Yes, I think all decent teams do. Does that mean they can just flip a switch when the time comes? Who knows?

Chad Ochocinco says he can tell exactly what route AJ Brown is going to run based on his alignment before the play, and names them: "If I know it, and I'm not watching film and just watching games on Sunday, what do you think those across from him are doing?"

https://x.com/phleaglesnation/status/1990947243357298957?s=46

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t know if I fully agree with what I’m saying either. I’m not as hard lined as I used to be. I’ve just feel like I’ve been observing this a ton over the last 3 years with multiple play callers and I feel like the hitch route data is a bit of a peak behind their curtain. So I’m trying to explain it.

And did it wonderfully well. I will keep your post in mind going forward.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

oh...you dont like winning super bowls?

Damn - Hurts is a surgeon too?! Is there anything he CAN’T do?!

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

yeah precisely. That was sarcasm acting like some other people in this thread.

1 minute ago, mikemack8 said:

Damn - Hurts is a surgeon too?! Is there anything he CAN’T do?!

yes. surgery. and throwing.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

yeah precisely. That was sarcasm acting like some other people in this thread.

🤷‍♂️

10 hours ago, KINGnabb said:

Defending a Super Bowl Title is never easy. The fact they came out of that 8-2 is still impressive to me. To put this in context. The 2018 Defending Champion Eagles were 4-6 After eleven weeks and looking at missing the playoffs. Luckily Saint Nick saved the season that year.

Chiefs 2024 were 9-1

Chiefs 2023 were 7-3

Rams 2022 were 3-7

Bucs 2021 were 7-3

Chiefs 2020 were 9-1

Pats 2019 were 9-1

Eagles 2018 were 4-6

40 minutes ago, McMVP said:

I don’t want to say they are playing possum, but they do have the talent to do so if they actually wanted to.

But do I think they know they can do a lot more, but don’t want to just yet? Sometimes it certainly feels that way

Nothing would surprise me with them…only reason why I struggle to go with this notion is if they were that willing to putz around right now, they probably shouldn’t be risking injury and trotting out broken offensive linemen…that approach would suggest they’d be more willing to rest their walking wounded.

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Nothing would surprise me with them…only reason why I struggle to go with this notion is if they were that willing to putz around right now, they probably shouldn’t be risking injury and trotting out broken offensive linemen…that approach would suggest they’d be more willing to rest their walking wounded.

Too many games won by razor thin margins. Youd think theyd turn it on for 1 or 2 more drives in each game to ensure a win. Rather than getting lucky with a drop, a penalty, not being able to run out clock on offense and putting it on the D to make a play at the end of games...

That theory doesnt really make any sense.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Nothing would surprise me with them…only reason why I struggle to go with this notion is if they were that willing to putz around right now, they probably shouldn’t be risking injury and trotting out broken offensive linemen…that approach would suggest they’d be more willing to rest their walking wounded.

Maybe… Maybe not.

I agree that it would not surprise me… They are probably arrogant enough to think they could waltz through the regular season with their talent level without showing their full hand.

Just my opinion but the playing possum theory is actually dead unlike an actual possum. There were a lot of people claiming the same thing last year but when it came to the playoffs and a time it mattered the offense didn’t look that good until the NFCCG and SB.

10 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I think we saw similar issues in 2023 with Brian Johnson. You have to wonder how much of it was the lack of authority to implement ideas vis a vis Sirianni and potentially Stoutland. Patullo may be more complicit in the problems. I think what we may see is more finger pointing because the problems haven't been unnoticed by Howie and Lurie. Howie and Lurie are likely talking to outside consultants and meeting with Patullo and Sirianni to discuss offensive performance. The DGunn rumor about people in the FO being displeased with Hurts likely is the coaching staff trying to mitigate their blame for the problems. Patullo is coaching for his job. I don't see Howie telling Sirianni they can keep him unless they win it all.

PHLY had a good discussion on this today.

All these toadies run to the media to explain why they should not be fired even though the offensive coaching is inept. The media gets these narratives.

Jalen says nothing in his defense since he is all about team and winning and does not care if Dianna Russini and D-Gunn are starting a cult of Hurts hate.

Then 20 outlets write stories that are nothing but repeating the D-Gunn story from toadies #1, and 2 while Russini's stories are based on AJ's Instagram

Here is an analogy:

The Bears had a very similar story just before week 1 this year. Williams had earlier said that he did not feel like Eberflus and company did enough to help him as a rookie.

The worthless vermin who were all fired for complete incompetence spewed hate and venom at Caleb Williams.

He is 7-3 right now... with the Bears! He has 5 GWD in 10 games.

The architects of the 28/32 offense were 23/28 and 18/20 in the 2 years before Williams.

10-24 before Williams, 5-12 with him... but his fault.

OC Shane Waldron moved on to Jacksonville as passing game coordinator. Trevor Lawrence has a 79.4 passer rating.

HC Eberflus is leading the 31/30 defense in Dallas. Williams torched his ass.

QB coach Kerry Joseph is helping to get Arch Manning to fall out of round 1 for UT.

Passing Game Coordinator (then OC after Waldron was fired on merit) Thomas Brown is apparently doing a great job in NE this year as Passing game coordinator.

So imagine if D-Gunn is hearing from Patullo, and 1 or 2 Kerry Joseph types.

Lets say its Alex Tanney and Patullo or Tanney, Patullo, and Parks Frazier, or Patullo and Frazier.

We have to guess because they are cowards.

What have any of those nobodies ever done to merit trusting them over Jalen Hurts?

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1990979577405907096

Chase is losing over $500k. Just a tad harsher than Carters punishment

I can’t get Deniz’s tweet to post properly…

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t know if I fully agree with what I’m saying either. I’m not as hard lined as I used to be. I’ve just feel like I’ve been observing this a ton over the last 3 years with multiple play callers and I feel like the hitch route data is a bit of a peak behind their curtain. So I’m trying to explain it.

I agree with it EXCEPT the part Jalen is comfortable with it and therefore it is why they use (overuse) it. I think it is absolutely a risk averse throw when thrown properly and he does throw it well.

But IMO and contrary to the opinion of many on here, it isn't that they keep it simple for Hurts. Instead, the whole game plan down to every throw and run is to avoid turnovers.

And I realize you did not say they keep it simple for Hurts. But I take issue even with the part that they do it, in part, because "he is comfortable with it." I think Hurts will throw and do whatever. And do it well. I really do.

But they limit him because they think they have found the Holy Grail of football, which to them is, no turnovers equals winning. And they are correct, but they went crazy with the idea. They are like Smeagol with the damn ring now and won't let (it) go a little.