I think the way this organization essentially shelves a player is criminal. Dillon had 1 fumble and we haven't seen him get a snap since. Saquon, Tank, and Dillon should be a 3-headed monster and we should be running the ball down our opponents throats.

In regard to the WR's, KP and the staff need to look at the 2022 tape and reincorporate some of the stuff they were doing that season.

10 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Probably would have stayed on IR if Lane wasn't out for a month.

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Didn't say it did. But, IMO, it's the greatest variance from last season. Patullo didn't install a new offense. There wasn't any discussion during the spring/summer around a scheme change. Patullo was the passing game coordinator last season. Stoutland was the run game coordinator. It's the same scheme.

Play calls look bad when someone misses a block.

Yeah I don't disagree. I think like others have mentioned, the inability to run block this year vs last. I think that has been the biggest difference in the offense efficiency but the head scratching decisions like continually using Calc as a lead blocker when he's clearly terrible at it make absolutely no sense. The zero creativity in play design and calling. Just odd decisions that seem like they have in house solutions to but choose not to do anything differently. They aren't a dumb coaching staff. What is the reasoning because it makes no sense

21 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Is the defense good enough? Because that's what won the last one.

If the playoff game is in Philly the rams and lions offense is not good enough to win one either

Too easy

28 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

What's entirely predicable is that whenever the Eagles lose their next game whatever flaw causes them to lose will be touted as the reason they won't win the Super Bowl.

Something people don't want to talk about is how the defense lost the first Giants game, giving up 34 points. The Giants offense was more physical and bullied our defense. It was a close game at the half, down 3 points, then we scored to go up 17-13. True, the offense never scored again after that but the defense collapsed. In the Broncos game the Eagles had a 17-3 lead, and then lost 21-17. Again, the offense didn't maintain scoring while the defense gave up scores. 21 points is more manageable for a defense, our offense should be able to score more than 21 points. You can't expect a defense to always hold other teams lower than that, but the reality is they had the lead.

The defense had injuries and some new guys settling into roles, and now they've got Nolan Smith, Nakobe Dean back healthy plus Jaelen Phillips. They would have made a big difference, and perhaps they would be undefeated.

If the defense keeps playing the way it has the last few weeks, no one will beat them. The only thing that will cause them to lose is the offense completely messing up and turning the ball over (Siri's biggest fear), or a defensive collapse.

This is why Siri is so conservative. He trusts his defense, lets the offense loose just enough at times, and is scared of turnovers.

28 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The offense is bad and should be much better. But I'm still going to enjoy the wins regardless. Both can be true.

I agree that both things can be true. I'm enjoying the wins, enjoying being SB reigning champs. I'm also not enjoying the offense not playing to its full potential, the run game not as good as last year, etc.

We've beat all the "scary" teams this year except we have yet to play the Bills. We've beat all the top teams that fans were scared of, the brutal schedule, etc. I do want to see how they do against the Cowboys, Bears and Commanders, those should be better offensive performances.

1 minute ago, justwinbaby said:

Yeah I don't disagree. I think like others have mentioned, the inability to run block this year vs last. I think that has been the biggest difference in the offense efficiency but the head scratching decisions like continually using Calc as a lead blocker when he's clearly terrible at it make absolutely no sense. The zero creativity in play design and calling. Just odd decisions that seem like they have in house solutions to but choose not to do anything differently. They aren't a dumb coaching staff. What is the reasoning because it makes no sense

I'm not sure it is entirely the run blocking, the fact is Saquon is playing this season off the back of a 378 touch 2024, he was always going to drop back, we should have planned to reduce his workload, instead he's currently pacing for a 340 touch season and he clearly isn't seeing the holes as good as he was last year

The shocker in the last game was how much faster Bigsby looked at times he spotted the congestion up the gut bounced outside and went in a way Saquon just hasn't this year.

Wanting the offense to be better somehow equates to Hurts throwing 400yds and throwing 4TDs

That'd be awesome but that's not what's being asked. Not sure why some are going to the extreme

The way the defense is currently playing, they are back to form of last year's playoffs and can win another SB because of the defense. I don't know if they would have the same dominant pass rush performance like in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs, but the overall defense would be strong enough to win.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Wanting the offense to be better somehow equates to Hurts throwing 400yds and throwing 4TDs

That'd be awesome but that's not what's being asked. Not sure why some are going to the extreme

It's the internet, people tend to use straw men and other fallacies and want to argue sometimes just to argue.

5 minutes ago, justwinbaby said:

Yeah I don't disagree. I think like others have mentioned, the inability to run block this year vs last. I think that has been the biggest difference in the offense efficiency but the head scratching decisions like continually using Calc as a lead blocker when he's clearly terrible at it make absolutely no sense. The zero creativity in play design and calling. Just odd decisions that seem like they have in house solutions to but choose not to do anything differently. They aren't a dumb coaching staff. What is the reasoning because it makes no sense

It's not much different from last season. They are asking Calcaterra to do the same things as last season.

Regarding creativity....

They are doing same-side toss more often this season. It has been pretty successful. Patullo called toss left a couple times against the Giants. He then called a fake toss left, with Hurts rolling to the right. Unfortunately the Giants had called a blitz on that play and someone was in Hurts' face immediately. That was a creative process that ran into the wrong defense.

He also put Barkley at FB with Tank as the deep back against the Packers. We converted a key forth and short in the 4Q that game. That was a new wrinkle. He tried the same against the Lions, but their DTs pushed both our OGs into the backfield.

What about the red zone plays against the Bucs?

Patullo needs to do better on sequencing and getting the call into the huddle. But directing all or the majority of the blame at him and mischaracterizing what is really happening is misguided.

2 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

I'm not sure it is entirely the run blocking, the fact is Saquon is playing this season off the back of a 378 touch 2024, he was always going to drop back, we should have planned to reduce his workload, instead he's currently pacing for a 340 touch season and he clearly isn't seeing the holes as good as he was last year

The shocker in the last game was how much faster Bigsby looked at times he spotted the congestion up the gut bounced outside and went in a way Saquon just hasn't this year.

He hasn't quite looked the same but can they not get him the ball in space and let the dude cook? I mean can we do anything remotely close to that or just run him up the gut.. he is so dynamic in space or maybe he's not this year but can we at least find out. Tank does need more touches. He does look really explosive and powerful.

15 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Oui, oui!

Just now, justwinbaby said:

He hasn't quite looked the same but can they not get him the ball in space and let the dude cook? I mean can we do anything remotely close to that or just run him up the gut.. he is so dynamic in space or maybe he's not this year but can we at least find out. Tank does need more touches. He does look really explosive and powerful.

I don't recall us calling so many runs into the middle of the line, with a condensed formation, last year. We are basically running Barkley into stacked boxes on purpose, and Cam and Landon have been compromised this year. Our big runs last year came from runs out of 11 personnel and getting Barkley to the edge -- think the Rams game or the NFCCG. Patullo seems enamored with the McVay style condensed formations, and it is killing us.

Spread it out, run wide, and go empty more on passing downs. Jalen is excellent throwing out of empty.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I don't recall us calling so many runs into the middle of the line, with a condensed formation, last year. We are basically running Barkley into stacked boxes on purpose, and Cam and Landon have been compromised this year. Our big runs last year came from runs out of 11 personnel and getting Barkley to the edge -- think the Rams game or the NFCCG. Patullo seems enamored with the McVay style condensed formations, and it is killing us.

Spread it out, run wide, and go empty more on passing downs. Jalen is excellent throwing out of empty.

That is definitely part of it. Our gameplan and play calling have been less than stellar all year. Teams have adjusted from last year.

However, there’s two other things that I brought up earlier this season and even last year. First, when you look at running backs that have run for 2000 yards that the following season there had been a big drop off by the majority of them. I think the thing a lot of of us didn’t accounted for was the physical damage that that season last year created. We were a physically dominant run team. I think playing that style takes especially when you play 21 games going mid February. Guys along the offensive line have not been healthy. Guys have not been the same. And Jordan mailata kind of talked about it this off-season going into the season how long it took him to recover. Just because you recovered, does not mean your body is physically able to do what it did previous years based off the pounding it took last year and previous seasons. Im guessing there is a mental drainage part of it. where it leads to more mistakes being made as well.

Which brings me to my second point that I’ve made, too many people look at these guys as robots. They are human. As somebody who’s going through a back issue, it takes forever to get your back to start feeling right. Even when it is right, you’re afraid that the next thing you do could tweak the back and you’re right back in the same spot you were before. So with Cam Jurgen, specifically, he had surgery. I was shocked he was back out there on the field during training camp, and the start of the season. I thought for sure he was gonna miss at least the start of the season having back surgery to give him extra time for it to heal up to be on the safe side. That’s not some small insignificant surgery. There’s people who have back surgery and are just never the same. I’ve been doing physical therapy on mine, getting cupping and massages for a muscular/nerve issue back n April. my back still every other day is a question of whether or not it hurts and if I can and can’t do something. Jurgens having an offseason to recovering from surgery both physically and mentally. So not his normal offseason so frankly it’s why i said the beginning of the year we likely don’t see jurgens as his usual self til 2026.

Love Dean. It’s gonna hurt when he walks at the end of the year. Similarly to Ranger walking for the Phillies

5 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I don't recall us calling so many runs into the middle of the line, with a condensed formation, last year. We are basically running Barkley into stacked boxes on purpose, and Cam and Landon have been compromised this year. Our big runs last year came from runs out of 11 personnel and getting Barkley to the edge -- think the Rams game or the NFCCG. Patullo seems enamored with the McVay style condensed formations, and it is killing us.

Spread it out, run wide, and go empty more on passing downs. Jalen is excellent throwing out of empty.

Respectfully...

34 yard run out of 12.

41 yards out of 21

20 yards out of 12

39 yards out of 12

70 yards out of 12

72 yards out of 13 (Wilson is lined up as a wing)

68 yards out of 12

78 yards out 12

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Love Dean. It’s gonna hurt when he walks at the end of the year. Similarly to Ranger walking for the Phillies

If he didn’t know what he was eating each night while playing at Georgia, it was because he didn’t plan dinner

50 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

As good of a job as Howie's done he dropped the ball getting more OL depth in the offseason. That isn't me bashing him so much as he had the medical reports and knew it would stretch into the start of the season. He fixed one error getting Johnson back. I wish he kept MB, but even past that Pryor and Toth shouldn't have been the only FA he brought in knowing Cam and Dickerson were banged up. I can't complain about the draft because he did well, but I wish he gave Stout more to work with.

In retrospect, Howie should have traded up for Josh Simmons. Too much talent there falling too far in the draft. It was a golden opportunity.

56 minutes ago, MF POON said:

I think the way this organization essentially shelves a player is criminal. Dillon had 1 fumble and we haven't seen him get a snap since. Saquon, Tank, and Dillon should be a 3-headed monster and we should be running the ball down our opponents throats.

In regard to the WR's, KP and the staff need to look at the 2022 tape and reincorporate some of the stuff they were doing that season.

No interest in Dillon getting touches over Shipley.

1 hour ago, Arsenal79 said:

The OL is decimated and the last 2 games were played in extremely cold and windy conditions against two very good teams with excellent defenses.

You guys are straight up delusional. Get real.

Fortunately the offense has only looked shaky these past two weeks.

Wait...

1 hour ago, MF POON said:

I think the way this organization essentially shelves a player is criminal. Dillon had 1 fumble and we haven't seen him get a snap since. Saquon, Tank, and Dillon should be a 3-headed monster and we should be running the ball down our opponents throats.

In regard to the WR's, KP and the staff need to look at the 2022 tape and reincorporate some of the stuff they were doing that season.

Dillon is a total dud. He doesn't play ST so he's not worth having active over Shipley. I'm surprised he's still on the team. There's a lot of issues on the offense. AJ Dillon not getting enough action isn't one of them.

Just now, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Dillon is a total dud. He doesn't play ST so he's not worth having active over Shipley. I'm surprised he's still on the team.

And the reason 69 hasn’t been healthy all season.

If the offense was run like a meritocracy the same way Fangio runs the defense, Bigsby would be getting close to the same amount of carries as Barkley. He has 17 carries for 156 yards and averaged 8.5 YPC against Detroit. I get Saquon is a homerun threat every time he touches the ball, but the numbers don't lie. I obviously don't want him phased out, but I'd like to see them lighten the load a bit for him as we get into the playoffs towards the end of the season.

Has anyone looked into Bigsby's runs vs. Saquon's and why he's having more success? Is it running in between the tackles versus outside?