On that final pass to Pickens, Michael Carter inexplicably picked Quinyon. Just runs over to his side and runs into him. No idea wtf he was doing there.

30 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

The narrative is that Jalen boosts the rushing attack, but it seems he's becoming less of a factor schematically as he's slowing down -and- he picks fewer and fewer spots to scramble. So, his mobility is more about avoiding pressure and finding plays off schedule; however he's taking some bad sacks and the recent inaccuracy is an issue. So is Jalen part of the problem? Not necessarily... but he might not be part of the solution either as this flawed offense needs a distributor (higher ceiling) rather than a game manager (higher floor).

Such is how it goes with QB's who's major asset is his legs. We've seen this movie before.

23 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Its a super tecmo bowl offense..☹️

I used to score 80 points a game using the Tecmo Super Bowl offense. It can be done.

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Tbh if they didn’t fire sirianni after the collapse of 2023, then they’re definitely not firing him if they collapse this year after winning a Super Bowl the previous year. As much as I would agree that I think it’s shown that the offense is not capable of designing something that is innovative and creative. Lurie will go get an OC with experience in play calling to help in 2026. If we are talking about the Sam thing in 2026 then i think there’s a serious discussion by Lurie

He'll get the same leash that Doug got.

15 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Came here hoping KP was relieved of his duties. Bitterly disappointing to see nothing has changed

Did you really think it was going to happen?

2 hours ago, Khani1 said:

Why does it take Puntullo so long to get the play into Hurts? He has 5 plays to choose from, what takes him so long? Barely get the playoff every snap. Certainly no time to audible or shift linemen to the right gap.

It might not be taking Patullo that long... think about that.

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He'll get the same leash that Doug got.

Doug got 3 years after a Super Bowl win. I’m not sure sirianni gets the 3rd if next year this offense looks the same with a new OC

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It might not be taking Patullo that long... think about that.

Except every other offensive coordinator over the past 5 years didn’t seem to have the same issues getting plays over to Hurts.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Doug got 3 years after a Super Bowl win. I’m not sure sirianni gets the 3rd if next year this offense looks the same.

Yep. This team has much more talent on both sides of the ball than any of Pederson’s teams - including the Super Bowl team. There really isn’t much of an excuse.

11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

It might not be taking Patullo that long... think about that.

Hurts has certainly been a problem but Puntullo gets the majority of the blame. Actually, we are passed that now. Its on Siri. He allowed this to continue.

The 2018 Eagles had to deal with Carson/Foles drama + Carson's health issues. The 2019 team had some awful WR talent.

The 2025 don't have anything close to those issues.

26 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Steen has been fine this year hes no all pro but he doesnt need to be, he just needs to be the 5th best OL problem is hes been the Second best OL this year behind Lane who is currently hurt and was having a down year as well.

Jurgens has been atrociously bad, dickerson not much better and Mailata has taken a step back as well. All 3 of those guys are pro bowlers and this year theyve struggled mightily.

Steen isnt as good as becton in the run game, not many guards are but steen has been better in pass pro and held his own in the run game.

If im tanking problems with the offense or the run game Steen is at the bottom of the list.

Jurgens, patullo, siri, dickerson would be at the top of my list, one can day well jurgens and Dickerson are hurt and yet the coaches keep trotting them out there to be legless speed bumps, at what point does Stout get some blame?

I think it's fair to say Steen was our best offensive lineman yesterday, which is less than ideal.

23 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

They're obsessed with 12

24 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

On that final pass to Pickens, Michael Carter inexplicably picked Quinyon. Just runs over to his side and runs into him. No idea wtf he was doing there.

As the play happened, I was yelling at the screen that it was clearly a pick and OPI.

Then on replay I saw it was our own player that ran into Q...

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Yep. This team has much more talent on both sides of the ball than any of Pederson’s teams - including the Super Bowl team. There really isn’t much of an excuse.

I’d add Sheil brought up today the same thing i said last year. Lurie was probably more than fine being a run team if it works and we win big like a SB. However his philosophy has always been being a more passing oriented team as he believes in that from Andy. I’m guessing when the running game is not working and coaches keep banging their head against the wall as aj brown and devonta are dominating but you under utilize them then he’s probably going to eventually be irked.

Imo i think the reason lurie told Aj brown that he has no reason to apologize is because Lurie probably feels the exact same way Aj does watching this offense.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Doug got 3 years after a Super Bowl win. I’m not sure sirianni gets the 3rd if next year this offense looks the same with a new OC

I think Sirianni might get less time than Doug if this thing falls apart, because it seems like Sirianni needs to be constantly babysat. He's an offensive minded head coach and he needs his coordinators to prop him up every year. If they don't achieve ultimate success, the question to Lurie immdiately comes "What am I paying for here exactly? A motivational locker room guy?" Right now, they don't even do the finer details things right.

Doug was the brains behind the Eagles offense, and those rosters weren't nearly as good as these current Eagles rosters so I think that bought him more time. And turns out, Doug kinda sucks as a head coach. And I suspect history may show Sirianni does too and Howie just went on a historic heater of roster construction that propped him up.

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

The 2018 Eagles had to deal with Carson/Foles drama + Carson's health issues. The 2019 team had some awful WR talent.

The 2025 don't have anything close to those issues.

The 2019 eagles also had stale offense and didn’t utilize the personnel they did have correctly. It was discussed a ton that year. Heck on twitter you can find it. People forget the whole use Carson wentz on rollouts cause his numbers outside the pocket were ridiculously good as compared to inside the pocket. The Eagles in 2019 had significantly less talent than this squad (however their oline did play better than this) but they also had issues with uncreative offense and not maximizing skills of the talent they had.

Well, I said going into week 6 that we'd know if this was a serious team based on how they came out on a short week...and they got smoked by a bad team. But then the Minnesota and 2nd Giants game sucked me back in. Well, here we are again. The Bears, despite the record, are not a good team. 27th ranked defense, especially weak against the run. Yes, they are #6 on offense (8th in PPG), but they have a negative point differential and have beaten up on cupcakes and bad QBs (0.309 strength of victory).

Lose this game and we know the season is a dud.

Just now, Sack that QB said:

I think Sirianni might get less time than Doug if this thing falls apart, because it seems like Sirianni needs to be constantly babysat. He's an offensive minded head coach and he needs his coordinators to prop him up every year. If they don't achieve ultimate success, the question to Lurie immdiately comes "What am I paying for here exactly? A motivational locker room guy?" Right now, they don't even do the finer details things right.

Doug was the brains behind the Eagles offense, and those rosters weren't nearly as good as these current Eagles rosters so I think that bought him more time. And turns out, Doug kinda sucks as a head coach. And I suspect history may show Sirianni does too and Howie just went on a historic heater of roster construction that propped him up.

In fairness i think Doug and sirianni kind of have some of the same problems. Neither are great play designers, play callers. Their offenses weren’t innovative and both needed really good OCs working with them to maximize the talent and offense. Once those OCs went away the offense became very predictable and stale (we forget since it’s been 5-6 years but there were videos all 2019 through the dolphins game pointing this out). The difference is Doug is not conservative whereas sirianni has some aggressiveness in moments but ultimately more conservative

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

Well, I said going into week 6 that we'd know if this was a serious team based on how they came out on a short week...and they got smoked by a bad team. But then the Minnesota and 2nd Giants game sucked me back in. Well, here we are again. The Bears, despite the record, are not a good team. 27th ranked defense, especially weak against the run. Yes, they are #6 on offense (8th in PPG), but they have a negative point differential and have beaten up on cup****es and bad QBs (0.309 strength of victory).

Lose this game and we know the season is a dud.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

The 2018 Eagles had to deal with Carson/Foles drama + Carson's health issues. The 2019 team had some awful WR talent.

The 2025 don't have anything close to those issues.

Outside 2017 Doug's offense was duller than this one, he almost managed to get less yards out of prime Alshon Jeffrey than Chip managed to get out of Riley Cooper. I'd cheerfully buy Doug a drink in honour of 2017 any time he wants but the calls for him to come back as offensive consultant are ridiculous.

Honestly and I'm not kidding I'd rather have Chip back as offensive consultant, the offense he built at UCLA and what he managed to get out of Dorian Thompson-Robinson was barely believable considering he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn in the NFL, and he knew how to use WR's when he was here Maclin and DJax had career years and he got 800 out of Riley Cooper as WR1.

I see this team as a team and locker room full of winners, a really good defense...and an offense that has flat out lost it's grip on executing and competing around a league average level. It's just become one of the worst offenses in the league. KP has a big hand in this, but there's no light switch from bad to good that he's sitting there staring at and refusing to flip.

Things change quickly in this league and the offense is what it is...very bad. No need to wring hands over it or make this more complex than it needs to be.

8 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

As the play happened, I was yelling at the screen that it was clearly a pick and OPI.

Then on replay I saw it was our own player that ran into Q...

Poor communication between Q and Carter. Frankly it’s probably because it’s really the first significant snaps they played together.

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, I said going into week 6 that we'd know if this was a serious team based on how they came out on a short week...and they got smoked by a bad team. But then the Minnesota and 2nd Giants game sucked me back in. Well, here we are again. The Bears, despite the record, are not a good team. 27th ranked defense, especially weak against the run. Yes, they are #6 on offense (8th in PPG), but they have a negative point differential and have beaten up on cupcakes and bad QBs (0.309 strength of victory).

Lose this game and we know the season is a dud.

So next week Friday is the real test?

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

In fairness i think Doug and sirianni kind of have some of the same problems. Neither are great play designers, play callers. Their offenses weren’t innovative and both needed really good OCs working with them to maximize the talent and offense. Once those OCs went away the offense became very predictable and stale (we forget since it’s been 5-6 years but there were videos all 2019 through the dolphins game pointing this out). The difference is Doug is not conservative whereas sirianni has some aggressiveness in moments but ultimately more conservative

I'd say Doug was clearly a better play caller/designed (Nick doesn't even call plays), especially early in his tenure. He was on fire in 2017, and it wasn't just being aggressive. Doug's downfall was when he lost Reich as a balancing force (sound familiar). Doug needed Frank to play devil's advocate and push things, and Nick needs a Steichen or Moore to build off his main philosophy (protect the ball).

If we want to win -- more passing, more Tank, less Barkley.