5 minutes ago, DevilMayRage said:

I remember when they got AJ and Devonta and people were like "Hurts has no more excuses now."

The first year they got AJ they went to the Super Bowl and lost because Gannon is a terrible DC. Everyone keeps twisting successful history to fit their narrative. This board has become filled with bad WIP callers

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The first year they got AJ they went to the Super Bowl and lost because Gannon is a terrible DC. Everyone keeps twisting successful history to fit their narrative. This board has become filled with bad WIP callers

ohhhhh...such big brain.

Listen ass......take the Hurts dick out your mouth.

They were a running/RPO centric team that year because Hurts was so limited even after they gave him all those weapons. My original point stands as to how you win with Hurts.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The first year they got AJ they went to the Super Bowl and lost because Gannon is a terrible DC. Everyone keeps twisting successful history to fit their narrative. This board has become filled with bad WIP callers

If Jalen can improve as a passer at a greater rate than he declines as a runner, then he has a future here. If not, he’s going to be somewhere else in 1-2 years. It appears that he was at the height of his powers in 2022, so he has some work to do (playing under center and the associated footwork, managing motion, comfort using the middle and intermediate areas of the field, throwing with anticipation). Thanks for taking my call.

The irony isn't lost on me of the Eagles season starting to collapse once AJ Brown finally shut his mouth, when everyone was afraid he was going to destroy it by running his mouth.

32 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

This board has become filled with bad WIP callers

Hit the nail on the head.

12 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

That’s ok because 2024 Jalen Hurts won the Super Bowl and was awarded MVP of the game. That definitively proved people here wrong but they can’t accept that so they’re prattling on blaming Hurts for everything under the sun

I can't tell if this is sarcasm. Is it?

The defense won that SB and was the MVP. Hurts played well but it was clearly the defense

College football needs a rule where coaches cannot leave until the playoffs are over. This is absurd every year where coaches take jobs elsewhere because the playoffs are over and uproot their teams.

These early games kind of suck

36 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

If Jalen can improve as a passer at a greater rate than he declines as a runner, then he has a future here. If not, he’s going to be somewhere else in 1-2 years. It appears that he was at the height of his powers in 2022, so he has some work to do (playing under center and the associated footwork, managing motion, comfort using the middle and intermediate areas of the field, throwing with anticipation). Thanks for taking my call.

I'm not under some delusion about Jalen Hurts strengths and weaknesses. It is possible that 2022 will be his best year as a passer. I do respect winning. I think when people trivialize it like they could have put any QB on the team and won they are showing ignorance to the history of the nfl and the team.

As for the future, who knows? I think Patullo stinks. We saw what a difference it was when Nick gave up play calling to Steichen with the same team. I think this team's identity was running and now that it doesn't work they are all struggling. But the first change will be OC. That should be obvious to everyone so people can whine all they want about Hurts but you're a year away from even considering that and that would require a lot of losing and Nick would probably go first

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm old enough to remember when people said running QBs couldn't win a Super Bowl.

I remember that as well. But i think that was more directed at QBs that were better runners than passers kinda like a Mike Vick.

6 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

These early games kind of suck

Dont disrespect Shadeur Sanders like that.

Also let's be clear. This is the Nick Sirriani offense catered to Jalen Hurts. This is not the Jalen Hurts offense. There's a difference. If the Eagles installed an OC or HC with full power that guy would build a new offense that looked very differently.

1 hour ago, DevilMayRage said:

ohhhhh...such big brain.

Listen ass......take the Hurts dick out your mouth.

They were a running/RPO centric team that year because Hurts was so limited even after they gave him all those weapons. My original point stands as to how you win with Hurts.

Is this a real post?

15 hours ago, Cliftoma said:

My high school in New Mexico won their 33rd State Championship today. Amazing football community that has sustained success for decades. The whole town revolves around Bulldog football. Hell, the town practically shuts down on game night and they even move Halloween if it falls on Friday lol

The Bulldogs came back down 24-11 to Roswell in the 4th with a blocked field goal and recovered onside kick to capture #33. Maybe Sirianni can poach the head coach since he likes himself a high school offense.

Did a FLETC Active Shooter course in Artesia at some old underground 50’s underground bunker school. Crazy the sustained success some places like that have. Was stationed in ‘title town’ Valdosta for about 7 years. Their 2 high schools combined for something absurd in terms of state titles like that.

25 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I remember that as well. But i think that was more directed at QBs that were better runners than passers kinda like a Mike Vick.

You don't think people have been saying that about Hurts since he's been here?

8 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Did a FLETC Active Shooter course in Artesia at some old underground 50’s underground bunker school. Crazy the sustained success some places like that have. Was stationed in ‘title town’ Valdosta for about 7 years. Their 2 high schools combined for something absurd in terms of state titles like that.

Haha no way thats where I went to elementary school. Abo Elementary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abo_Elementary_School

Yeah, Artesia has moved into 2nd place by itself in the nation in state football titles and have won more than any other school since 1950. Thats insane for a town of 12k! The thing is that every boy in that town wants to grow up to be a Bulldog football player and they start coaching and training them the same way when they are young (from 6 grade). Their training rooms, fields and equipment are all top notch.

3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Chip Kelly was running them as the foundation of his entire offense a decade earlier, but why let facts get in the way of a good rant.

Was one of the main things at stout brought from bama.

5 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

At this point Toth is certainly a better option. Perhaps Jurgens can get into a better spot with four or five weeks off and be a better option moving into the playoffs but for now he isn't playing as good as Toth did in the games Toth played.

Yep. We didn't start losing (or at least looking this bad on offense) until Jurgens came back. Rest him, get him healthy - start Toth. No brainer.

41 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm not under some delusion about Jalen Hurts strengths and weaknesses. It is possible that 2022 will be his best year as a passer. I do respect winning. I think when people trivialize it like they could have put any QB on the team and won they are showing ignorance to the history of the nfl and the team.

As for the future, who knows? I think Patullo stinks. We saw what a difference it was when Nick gave up play calling to Steichen with the same team. I think this team's identity was running and now that it doesn't work they are all struggling. But the first change will be OC. That should be obvious to everyone so people can whine all they want about Hurts but you're a year away from even considering that and that would require a lot of losing and Nick would probably go first

I'd say it's all but a guarantee that they play out this season as is, for better or for worse. They'll fire Patullo and bring in a new OC in the offseason to work with Hurts. Again, for better or worse. I absolutely do not see any scenario where those things do not come to pass.

The debate is in what the offense looks like next year with the new OC. I think it will be more early 2021 and early 2024 where they try to open up the playbook for Hurts and get him passing more...but then have to learn all over again to rein it in because he can't/won't do it. And less the 2022 flavor.

But we'll all find out. It's basically a slam dunk certainty we see Hurts with this personnel and a new OC next year.

2026 really should be nicknamed the verdict season.

If Hurts and the offense look great next year, then the right answer (not that they'll have the stomach to do it) is to fire Siri and make that OC the HC so you don't lose him. Because we'll know Patullo (and Siri) and the coaching situation were the problem.

If the offense falls into the same rut and look (and there will not be an OL and running game like 2024 to just blow the doors off everyone and make the whole debate irrelevant)....then they should be looking for a new QB after the 2026 season because you can't keep ignoring the repetitive common denominator.

13 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

That’s ok because 2024 Jalen Hurts won the Super Bowl and was awarded MVP of the game. That definitively proved people here wrong but they can’t accept that so they’re prattling on blaming Hurts for everything under the sun

That's because there are some "fans" who are more concerned with "being right about Hurts" than they are with the team winning. That's why the goal post never stops moving. First there was 2022 were was the borderline league MVP. After the collapse in 2023 they said it was a fluke. Then he absolutely balled out in the playoffs last year and the team won the SB and he was SB MVP. Crickets for the entire offseason. Then every time he has a bad game the noise ratchets up, gets quiet when he has a good game. Now that the team is in complete dysfunction and Hurts has played horribly for 7 of the last 8 quarters it's getting louder than ever. People like you and I are concerned that the team is imploding and pissing away their season, and those clowns are in their glory with their "see see, I told you Hurts has always been the problem" nonsense.

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

I'm not under some delusion about Jalen Hurts strengths and weaknesses. It is possible that 2022 will be his best year as a passer. I do respect winning. I think when people trivialize it like they could have put any QB on the team and won they are showing ignorance to the history of the nfl and the team.

As for the future, who knows? I think Patullo stinks. We saw what a difference it was when Nick gave up play calling to Steichen with the same team. I think this team's identity was running and now that it doesn't work they are all struggling. But the first change will be OC. That should be obvious to everyone so people can whine all they want about Hurts but you're a year away from even considering that and that would require a lot of losing and Nick would probably go first

TBH I'm ok with Sirianni as a "CEO" type head coach as long as he (truly) leaves the offense and playcalling alone^.

^{But like others have noted, eventually - if they find a really good coordinator (like last season) they will likely need to make him head coach at some point; in order to retain him, etc}

23 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

But we'll all find out. It's basically a slam dunk certainty we see Hurts with this personnel and a new OC next year.

If the Eagles collapse like they did in 2023, I doubt AJ Brown comes back - there's no way he goes an entire off-season without requesting a trade, imo.

Lurie just gave Nick new contract too