Just now, DEagle7 said:

It's probably already been discussed but why is Slay subject to waivers as a vet?

Everyone goes through waivers after the trade deadline.

I don’t understand why teams think in long terms with everything besides injuries. There are multiple players that is seems if they just sat out a few games early would be ready by now and healthy for the most important stretch of the season (including playoffs)

Why let a guy play hurt? He’s not 100% while playing anyway and there’s a much bigger chance they will miss time later. So you get a worse player plus missed time later instead of just missing the time and coming back healthy.

From the people who break down Slay's film every week.

12 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Well that sucks. Week to week in Sirianni speak means we probably won't see him back until playoffs. Cue the Mora sound bite...

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don't understand the "do right" to him. They owe him nothing.

They don't, but that doesn't mean it isn't douchy. Both can be true.

Just now, RLC said:

From the people who break down Slay's film every week.

That would make more sense to me but apparently the Steelers didn’t play a lot of man so who knows?

Might be moot unless they release him.

I mentioned yesterday I wouldn't be shocked to see Carter get some type of procedure after the season. The good news is if this wasn't something that could heal before the playoffs, he would've just waited until the offseason. The fact that he got it now is good news in the "weakest" part of the schedule. And if he's getting pushed around like he did vs the Bears it isn't as big of a loss because he clearly was playing compromised all season.

I loved savage when he come out of his draft. But feels like he’s not good anymore

2 minutes ago, DaBirds said:

That would make more sense to me but apparently the Steelers didn’t play a lot of man so who knows?

Might be moot unless they release him.

Context: Every charting service looks at man/zone coverages differently.

That said, Steelers run man-coverage at the 6th most rate in the entire NFL.
https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/stats-nfl/nfl-coverage-schemes/

So whoever says they're not a man-heavy team relative to the rest of the league is wrong.

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

I don’t understand why teams think in long terms with everything besides injuries. There are multiple players that is seems if they just sat out a few games early would be ready by now and healthy for the most important stretch of the season (including playoffs)

Why let a guy play hurt? He’s not 100% while playing anyway and there’s a much bigger chance they will miss time later. So you get a worse player plus missed time later instead of just missing the time and coming back.

I am assuming you're referencing JC in this instance, I am not certain about the timing of the injury/injuries (I didn't realize it was both shoulders), but PHI had a tough schedule to start the year (if the injury was during that span, KC, Bucs, Rams, DEN) then they lost a couple in a row right before the bye, I can see why they decided not to do a surgery during the bye as they would have been trying to get momentum back for the second half of the season and he was a big factor in that thought process, especially getting a win back over NYG in the second game after the bye week.

Maybe it wasn't as bad as originally thought and he wanted to play through it, idk, that's where you count on the training staff to protect the player's future as well. It's a fine line and a lot factors to consider. Either way it sounds minor and he should be ready to roll when it counts now.

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They don't, but that doesn't mean it isn't douchy. Both can be true.

Then isn't what Slay is doing douchy as well?

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Then isn't what Slay is doing douchy as well?

Youre getting close to the line of insulting Mike Vrabel again.

20 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

They have been extremely tardy in getting rest and procedure for a couple of players this year. With a roster like the Eagles they should have been more focused on the long term then they’ve been with Dickerson, Jurgens, and Carter.

Just now, Joe Ball said:

Maybe it wasn't as bad as originally thought and he wanted to play through it, idk, that's where you count on the training staff to protect the player's future as well. It's a fine line and a lot factors to consider. Either way it sounds minor and he should be ready to roll when it counts now.

Maybe, I just remember week one (or so) there was a story about how he was probably going to need surgery after the season regardless.

Also, Cam, Dickerson etc have been playing at a very diminished level. Dickerson in particular would probably be completely healthy by now if that had sat him to begin with. He wound up missing time anyway and now doesn’t seem to be himself.

This is definitely messaging from the team, and it's kinda hilarious they put that distinction out there

Did he just want to grunt it out and then just couldn't anymore? Seems like he should have done the surgery earlier

Howie does a lot of contracts based on potential and not always the 'what have you done for me now'

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Then isn't what Slay is doing douchy as well?

I don't think so. Moving for 5 weeks to Buffalo, NY in December... not wanting to do that is understandable when you're retiring in a matter of weeks.

If the Bills don't cut him it's the personnel decision equivalent to a team down 21 with 2 minutes left using up all their timeouts and playing like it's a tie game. They have a right to do it. And technically it's not impossible to come back from down 21 in 2 minutes. But usually teams at that point just concede and let the winning team run out the clock and get out of there without any injuries, because why bother? This feels like a why bother situation for the Bills. Slay is a month away from retirement, he doesn't wanna play there, he's not some major impact player, why bother?

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is definitely messaging from the team, and it's kinda hilarious they put that distinction out there

And with that, the Cowboys win the division.

we’ve had a ton of weird and chronic or nagging injuries over the last couple of seasons.

Carter needing BOTH shoulders repaired (and likely will be rushed back)

Dickerson (knee, ankle, back) and Jergens (back-knee-foot), getting their injuries over and over and rushing back early.

This team has desperation and short sightedness with all over it. From the gameplan every week, the injury decisions, and the sloppy execution we’ve witnessed.

Lack of defensive tackle depth is a problem. Been saying that since offseason. Howie builds teams in the trenches and then dumps solid backups in Kinnard and Booker like trash. Bryant Young can't play and we will see about Ty Robinson. Again, Howie's bad offseason and regular season moves are gonna be coming into play here as we lose games we should win.

31 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah. Slay is a plug and play starter for us. So, its costing Buffalo nothing to grab him for a couple weeks and prevent us from having a starting CB when we play them.

Costs them a roster spot but they might think that’s worth it.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

Costs them a roster spot but they might think that’s worth it.

I saw that they released someone for him

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

This is definitely messaging from the team, and it's kinda hilarious they put that distinction out there

Kind of feels like an agent thing to also want it put out there that it wasn’t surgery and just a procedure.

That said he’s been dealing with it since the spring… so why not do it then so you have months to recover.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Then isn't what Slay is doing douchy as well?

This...100%. He works\plays for the NFL and follows protocol like every other player. If he gets cut like he did, and he doesn't want to play for the team that claimed him, well that's his choice, but two can play that game. He is screwing over BUF just as much as they are possibly going to screw him over. I would compare this to Eli or Elway manipulating their way to a team other than where they were likely to end up in the draft, however on a much less impactful trajectory since his career is almost over. It just seems likes he is trying to force an entitled approach to where he plays, bad optics imo.

24 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Need to know how long he was dealing with this cause we heard about a shoulder earlier in the year. If he had this issue going into the bye week then probably should’ve done it then.

Yep. He should have sat the 2nd Giants game the week before the bye and had the surgery then. AJ Brown and Jurgens also didn't play that game.

We've got several guys now that are trying to tough it out which is great, but not if injuries are holding back your performance. BOTH shoulders, yikes.