Just now, pgcd3 said:

No argument. I’ve been defending Hurts but his last few games have been progressively worse.

I don’t see how they can go forward without change. And I don’t think they will change Hurts despite this boards desires. Had to be Patullo and he deserves to go because his plays are awful

I like hurts but he’s been regressing since the bye. I’ve said this before i don’t think sirianni and him are a good mix. I know they have won a lot of games but the pass offense has been biopolar for Much of the last 3 years. blame Hurts or blame sirianni, i don’t think their concepts are not very creative and we misuse players as well. I don’t see that all on hurts. he has his flaws that are also issues.

I said back in 2023 they wouldn’t fire sirianni coming off a SB year the year before. Lurie isn’t like that. But this feels different as offense is completely inept as they’ve scored less than 21 for 5 consecutive weeks. Continuously getting penalized in big spots. Look unfocused. On top of it mis-utilizing personnel. Add on better roster than 2023 and a lesson you should’ve learned 2 years ago and yet we are back here again.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I like hurts but he’s been regressing since the bye. I’ve said this before i don’t think sirianni and him are a good mix. I know they have won a lot of games but the pass offense has been biopolar for Much of the last 3 years. blame Hurts or blame sirianni, i don’t think their concepts are not very creative and we misuse players as well. I don’t see that all on hurts. he has his flaws that are also issues.

I said back in 2023 they wouldn’t fire sirianni coming off a SB year the year before. Lurie isn’t like that. But this feels different as offense is completely inept as they’ve scored less than 21 for 5 consecutive weeks. Continuously getting penalized in big spots. Look unfocused. On top of it mis-utilizing personnel. Add on better roster than 2023 and a lesson you should’ve learned 2 years ago and yet we are back here again.

Patullo has been the passing game coordinator and now the OC. He’s a big part of the problem but yeah Sirriani’s offense which is old and tired doesn’t suit Hurts and isn’t good in general

Anyway this all sucks

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

Not expecting much from this season. They won't beat the Rams or Seahawks. Probably add GB to that list as well.

At the very least win back to back division titles. Something that hasn't been done in forever.

I wouldn't be so sure. I can see us going 2-2 and the Cowboys winning out if they get past Chargers.

I don't think they aren't losing to the other 3 teams left on their schedule

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I know they have won a lot of games but the pass offense has been biopolar for Much of the last 3 years. blame Hurts or blame sirianni, i don’t think their concepts are not very creative and we misuse players as well. I don’t see that all on hurts. he has his flaws that are also issues.

I think this is the thing right… they’ve won a lot of games which masks a lot of problems. But the issues have been there for a long long time. This passing offense hasn’t really been good since Jalen and Nick have been here. So it’s hard to know who that is on.

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think this is the thing right… they’ve won a lot of games which masks a lot of problems. But the issues have been there for a long long time. This passing offense hasn’t really been good since Jalen and Nick have been here. So it’s hard to know who that is on.

It was good in 2022.

But has been bi-polar the last 3 years.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think this is the thing right… they’ve won a lot of games which masks a lot of problems. But the issues have been there for a long long time. This passing offense hasn’t really been good since Jalen and Nick have been here. So it’s hard to know who that is on.

Issue is this though. This is analytics showing you get the F out of shotgun. Can blame Hurts saying he doesn’t want to do under center (i don’t believe that’s the reason… when you misuse guys as frequently as we do that’s really more coaching) but your coach needs to have balls and tell him it’s for the betterment of him and the team or notice the Fing trend.

1 minute ago, kiwieagle said:

It was good in 2022.

But has been bi-polar the last 3 years.

Yeah you are right it was good in 2022 but that’s now the outlier. And even in 2022 he didn’t throw for 4000 yards and whilst his TD to INT ratio was good it wasn’t like his numbers were other worldly. They were good, very good but not special.

This team can be really frustrating to watch when it gets like this.

That said - Jalen Hurts had 4 INT's and another 2 turnovers (from the same play) 6 total turnovers but they were still within 20 yards of winning the game in overtime. The offense looks like they have begun to make the turn - Saquon and AJ are back. Defense is solid. They need to keep their heads up and realize that if they continue to improve, they'll be back to form soon.

And tell the entire team to stay the heck off social media for the week.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Issue is this though. This is analytics showing you get the F out of shotgun. Can blame Hurts saying he doesn’t want to do under center (i don’t believe that’s the reason… when you misuse guys as frequently as we do that’s really more coaching) but your coach needs to have balls and tell him it’s for the betterment of him and the team or notice the Fing trend.

I do think it’s that Jalen doesn’t want to do it but as you say the HC needs to be a leader and tell him that’s what they are doing. If Hurts doesn’t do it or doesn’t want to then he a man Sirianni and go to your back up. Because Nick should be fighting for his job now. Another collapse should lead to real decisions. It won’t but it should.

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And the thing is… that’s a lot to ask of any QB. But with Hurts that’s just asking for trouble. And it’s why it’s fair to have a conversation about whether they need to think about the medium to long term with him. There’s too many limitations with him.

He needs elite weapons. Well in the next couple of years that’s going to change as they invest more on defense. He needs a run game. Well that needs a really good healthy RB with a good OL. He can’t throw the ball too much otherwise there’s trouble. Well sometimes with no run game or when you are behind you need to throw the ball. He doesn’t like to go under Center. Well you need variety. He doesn’t like pre snap motion. Well that helps an offense.

Yup...this season we have won single game where Hurts had 30+ pass attempts...against Rams where he had 32... Every other game we lost and in every game we lost he had 30+ pass attempts...What Iam trying to say here is that if Hurts has 30+ pass attempts in a game then your game plan was fundamentally bulls**t and that is on coaching because they are supposed to to be aware of that...If they want pass happy offense they need to put there McKee...

Just now, Vlad67 said:

Yup...this season we have won single game where Hurts had 30+ pass attempts...against Rams where he had 32... Every other game we lost and in every game we lost he had 30+ pass attempts...What Iam trying to say here is that if Hurts has 30+ pass attempts in a game then your game plan was fundamentally bulls**t and that is on coaching because they are supposed to to be aware of that...If they want pass happy offense they need to put there McKee...

The thing is because of the OL and the run game they need to be pass heavy. So right now Hurts is not the answer. Now the problem is benching him pretty much ends his time here so that isn’t going to happen.

This entire thing is a sinking ship. Even IF they make the playoffs, they aren't beating the 49'ers, Bears, Lions etc. Let's just sum everything up:

-Sirianni is a moron who is the head coach and his best attribute is when he stays out of the way and lets someone else run the offense

-Patullo might be worse. Absolutely ZERO feel for calling a game, massively predictable, and goes away from whatever works

-The QB has had the worst 4 game stretch of his entire career. He is completely lost right now

-AJ Brown gives effort when he feels like it, has literally slowed down, and had two massive drops tonight including a TD on the QB's best pass of the game

-Jake Elliott is pretty much done as anything more than an average at best kicker

-The OL is horrible this year. Steen just isn't very good, and Dickerson and Jurgens (playing hurt or not) are killing this team

Did I miss anything?

6 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

This entire thing is a sinking ship. Even IF they make the playoffs, they aren't beating the 49'ers, Bears, Lions etc. Let's just sum everything up:

-Sirianni is a moron who is the head coach and his best attribute is when he stays out of the way and lets someone else run the offense

-Patullo might be worse. Absolutely ZERO feel for calling a game, massively predictable, and goes away from whatever works

-The QB has had the worst 4 game stretch of his entire career. He is completely lost right now

-AJ Brown gives effort when he feels like it, has literally slowed down, and had two massive drops tonight including a TD on the QB's best pass of the game

-Jake Elliott is pretty much done as anything more than an average at best kicker

-The OL is horrible this year. Steen just isn't very good, and Dickerson and Jurgens (playing hurt or not) are killing this team

Did I miss anything?

This team finds a way to make a mistake on offense (penalty) at least once every drive that usually kills them. It is laughable cause when it’s going well you know they are about to do something to shoot themselves in the foot. Last year found ways to win games. This year they find ways to lose games

kind of in denial about what’s uncharacteristic. Have 9 turnovers in last 3 weeks. 2 or more turnovers in each of the last 3 weeks. Consistently getting penalties in big spots and misusing your personnel speaks to Characteristics of a coach that doesn’t want to believe what his team is. Bad coached teams keep doing the "uncharacteristic” things and nothing gets fixed. 

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The thing is because of the OL and the run game they need to be pass heavy. So right now Hurts is not the answer. Now the problem is benching him pretty much ends his time here so that isn’t going to happen.

18 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The thing is because of the OL and the run game they need to be pass heavy. So right now Hurts is not the answer. Now the problem is benching him pretty much ends his time here so that isn’t going to happen.

I am not saying they should play McKee...I said if they want to be pass hapy they need to play McKee ..if they want to play Hurts, they simply can't play pass happy no matter that running game isn't working...they need to stay honest to it and simple be what they are...a run first team...therebis no other way to have a success with Hurts as a QB unfortunatelly

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

kind of in denial about what’s uncharacteristic. Have 9 turnovers in last 3 weeks. 2 or more turnovers in each of the last 3 weeks. Consistently getting penalties in big spots and misusing your personnel speaks to Characteristics of a coach that doesn’t want to believe what his team is. Bad coached teams keep doing the "uncharacteristic” things and nothing gets fixed. 

That moron lets Hurts pass it 40 times and then cries that we had uncharacteristic turn overs...comon man...

6 minutes ago, Vlad67 said:

That moron lets Hurts pass it 40 times and then cries that we had uncharacteristic turn overs...comon man...

It isn’t even uncharacteristic… we’ve turned it over 8 times in the last 3 games on offense. This offense being ill disciplined and poor in execution is exactly what this team is and has been all damn year.

I think it's time to address the elephant in the room and that elephant is our quarterback, russel wilson. The washed version.

This was another frustrating loss and totally avoidable. This team just finds new ways to lose these games and it instills no confidence of getting better.

Jalen Hurts has been god awful during that span. I’m not saying it’s all his fault, but he has been terrible on a consistent basis. His passing is so erratic and one of the reasons we cannot sustain drives. He’ll get hot on one drive and then go cold on the next three. Everything seems so difficult on a consistent basis with him at the helm. He does make some really great throws, but I rather have consistent good easy throws than a couple of great throws in a game.

The offensive line is getting mauled when they’re supposed to maul during running plays. They’re getting no push whatsoever. One big issue is that the other team knows exactly what and when the Eagles run. I mean I can basically call out the running plays consistently. These stupid inside runs out of the shotgun are infuriating.

I can’t see a quick fix with the way our O is playing. It’s too much Jekyll and a little bit of Hyde.

The D redeemed itself after last week’s debacle. They certainly did their part again this week, although an injured Herbert and the Chargers O weren’t some juggernaut.

What has happened with Jihaad Campbell?! Is he in Fangio’s doghouse or something?

Idk, but it seems like this team is capable of losing a game to either the Raiders or Commanders. On the other hand, they could also go and win all four… I know, wishful thinking.

If the offense this year just had a pulse and was average to above average they sleepwalk to the NFC Championship. Such a shame to waste this roster but they did. I thought that defensive effort was incredible last night and it was all for nothing.

1 hour ago, Frankfurteagle89 said:

This was another frustrating loss and totally avoidable. This team just finds new ways to lose these games and it instills no confidence of getting better.

Jalen Hurts has been god awful during that span. I’m not saying it’s all his fault, but he has been terrible on a consistent basis. His passing is so erratic and one of the reasons we cannot sustain drives. He’ll get hot on one drive and then go cold on the next three. Everything seems so difficult on a consistent basis with him at the helm. He does make some really great throws, but I rather have consistent good easy throws than a couple of great throws in a game.

The offensive line is getting mauled when they’re supposed to maul during running plays. They’re getting no push whatsoever. One big issue is that the other team knows exactly what and when the Eagles run. I mean I can basically call out the running plays consistently. These stupid inside runs out of the shotgun are infuriating.

I can’t see a quick fix with the way our O is playing. It’s too much Jekyll and a little bit of Hyde.

The D redeemed itself after last week’s debacle. They certainly did their part again this week, although an injured Herbert and the Chargers O weren’t some juggernaut.

What has happened with Jihaad Campbell?! Is he in Fangio’s doghouse or something?

Idk, but it seems like this team is capable of losing a game to either the Raiders or Commanders. On the other hand, they could also go and win all four… I know, wishful thinking.

I don’t think there’s much question this team is losing at least one to Washington. Could be both, but one for certain.

I said it earlier in the season and was crucified for it, but we are a few fluke plays from being 5-8 or worse.

This team is collapsing, sure, but it's been bad all season.