What's the betting line that Hurts is benched at any point in the season?

Hypothetically, and I'm not wishing for this to happen because I believe they need to sink or swim with Hurts, but say Hurts rolls an ankle early 1Q vs the Raiders, has to leave the game and McKee comes in and throws for 350 yards 3 TDs and the Eagles put up 45 points.

Who starts vs the Commies the week after if Hurts is medically cleared?

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

In all seriousness, they'd never bench him. It would have to be a mystery injury or something, but that won't happen either.

Part of me wonders if he is dealing with an injury of some sort to his legs. Not that it’s an excuse for his performance but i remember he took a shot and got up slowly in one game. That said he had that happen like rams playoff game and looked fine next 2 games

Why are we benching the QB with a disabled and penalty prone offensive line and AJ Brown half azzin it and a scared AF timid running back this year. Bench them while you're at it. Bench the OC who has no effin clue in how to play to Hurts strengths.

Just now, jojodancer said:

Why are we benching the QB with a disabled and penalty prone offensive line and AJ Brown half asking it and scared AF timidrunning back this year. Bench them while you're at it. 

I think majority of the fanbase has been pleading for Tank to get snaps

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

Hypothetically, and I'm not wishing for this to happen because I believe they need to sink or swim with Hurts, but say Hurts rolls an ankle early 1Q vs the Raiders, has to leave the game and McKee comes in and throws for 350 yards 3 TDs and the Eagles put up 45 points.

Who starts vs the Commies the week after if Hurts is medically cleared?

And the follow up to this is:

If your answer is "Go back to Hurts" and the offense sucks again vs the Commies, then what do they do week 17 vs the Bills?

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Hypothetically, and I'm not wishing for this to happen because I believe they need to sink or swim with Hurts, but say Hurts rolls an ankle early 1Q vs the Raiders, has to leave the game and McKee comes in and throws for 350 yards 3 TDs and the Eagles put up 45 points.

Who starts vs the Commies the week after if Hurts is medically cleared?

I would roll with McKee and say Hurts is still injured. Then if McKee sucks, you can go back to Jalen.

Nick would go with Hurts, IMO, in that scenario.

I don't know if they'd hire Daboll or how his personality would mix with the coaching staff and players. But he did work with Josh Allen as a rookie and help develop him, and by 2020 had them as the #2 offense in yards and points. 2020 were career high years for Allen and Stefon Diggs. They didn't have a true #1 RB as the carries and yards were split between 2 backs but the team rushed for 1,723 yards including Allen's 421 yards. (Imagine Daboll utilizing Tank Bigsby along with Barkley). Their TEs didn't produce quite as much as Goedert in his better years, which may be ok if Goedert walks and they draft a TE they can focus that TE on blocking and as a receiving option after Smitty and Brown and a strong running game, so a rookie TE wouldn't need the pressure to replace Goedert's production.

Siri needs an OC that is confident and proven, who can push back on Siri's ideas and provide balance. I don't know if Daboll and Siri would butt heads, but Siri exists with Fangio. So I don't know, would it work?

Jordan Davis being described as a big ass Fing care bear is everything i needed to hear today lol

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

I don't know if they'd hire Daboll or how his personality would mix with the coaching staff and players. But he did work with Josh Allen as a rookie and help develop him, and by 2020 had them as the #2 offense in yards and points. 2020 were career high years for Allen and Stefon Diggs. They didn't have a true #1 RB as the carries and yards were split between 2 backs but the team rushed for 1,723 yards including Allen's 421 yards. (Imagine Daboll utilizing Tank Bigsby along with Barkley). Their TEs didn't produce quite as much as Goedert in his better years, which may be ok if Goedert walks and they draft a TE they can focus that TE on blocking and as a receiving option after Smitty and Brown and a strong running game, so a rookie TE wouldn't need the pressure to replace Goedert's production.

Siri needs an OC that is confident and proven, who can push back on Siri's ideas and provide balance. I don't know if Daboll and Siri would butt heads, but Siri exists with Fangio. So I don't know, would it work?

Daboll with the giants was a disaster as HC. Frankly thinkin jones was a franchise QB was a mistake by not only him but his GM. That said i care more about what he did to help in the development of Josh Allen. Allen didn’t come out of Wyoming polished and ready to go. He had a large learning curve and over time daboll was able to maximize him and develop him. Imo that is what i would like to have him for. Whether hurts or if they do manage to draft a QB he is there to help develop and hopefully make them better.

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

We literally can't field a 53 man roster in 2026 if we trade him before June 1, 2026.

I believe 99.9% you are correct. I always leave open some possibility for Howie to find and exploit some sort of trick you and others couldnt foresee. But thats not even my point. Im not focused on the 0.1% chance. I am saying, if it cant be done, he will be carried on the roster as a backup. Theyre not just going to say oh well and suffer through multiple more seasons of Jalen Hurts playing QB here when *everyone sees him as a big issue. Thats not how Howie rolls.

It may already be longer than anyone wants (speaking not only of QB change, but OC change, HC change...), but they dont typically make brash moves during season either.

This offseason, I believe all options will be on the table. And if trading or cutting are the unlikeliest of options, than that makes Hurts as the backup pretty likely then. Because, again, they arent going to just sit still and watch this fire burn for years and years.

*ps. I realize "everyone" is an overgeneralization as of this very moment, but its a growing number of people that does not seem insignificant anymore.

People are forgetting McKee hasn't played behind a bad offensive line, a bad OC and a malcontent at WR who lost a step and can't win the 1 non 1 go route regularly as in the past. And a RB who doesn't hit the obvious hole, playing afraid to get hurt. He ain't gonna magically make this current version of the offense great. McKee starting is not happening on many levels, unless he gets hurt and it's stupid to even try at this point. Putting a rookie in there, basically who looked good against the feeble NY football Giants, with an all time Eagles offensive line and talent everywhere and a solid OC. Which is no longer the case.

13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Hypothetically, and I'm not wishing for this to happen because I believe they need to sink or swim with Hurts, but say Hurts rolls an ankle early 1Q vs the Raiders, has to leave the game and McKee comes in and throws for 350 yards 3 TDs and the Eagles put up 45 points.

Who starts vs the Commies the week after if Hurts is medically cleared?

They probably go back to Hurts....

52 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It's why if this season goes to crap, they're going to try their best to win with it and I think that starts at a minimum with major changes to the offensive staff. Like everyone but Stoutland and Sirianni gone.

And at most, even Sirianni gone too. Which I think is less likely, but if they lose to the terrible Raiders on Sunday then I believe he's suddenly fair game. The Eagles blowing this division and losing to the horrendous Raiders in the process would be the worst collapse in Philly sports history. Having that on your track record is more bad than winning a Super Bowl is good.

The worst collapse in Philly sports history is the ‘64 Phillies.

Just now, just relax said:

The worst collapse in Philly sports history is the ‘64 Phillies.

What a time to be alive. I hear about it from my dad every time we talk about the Phillies

Pretty good discussion, especially Mina's point on needing to get teams back to single safety looks that Jalen can excel against. Whether the issue is Jalen can't process fast enough against dual safety looks, or he just needs more experience with them (no one dared run 2 deep safety looks against us when we had an A+ running game), who knows (I think it's a combination of the two, but more likely a Hurts' limitation). Going from a top 5 rushing attack to bottom third of the league is not something anyone was ready for this season, and we have failed to adapt.

9 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Jordan Davis being described as a big ass Fing care bear is everything i needed to hear today lol

Offense with an inflatable bunny: ❌

Defense with a big ass f***ing Care Bear: ✅

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

People are forgetting McKee hasn't played behind a bad offensive line, a bad OC and a malcontent at WR who lost a step and can't win the 1on 1 go route regularly as in the past. And a RB who doesn't hit the obvious hole playing afraid to get hurt. He ain't gonna magically make this current version of the offense great. It's not happening on any levels unless he gets hurt and it's stupid to even try at this point. Putting a rookie in there basically who looked good against the feeable NY football Giants, with an all time Eagles offensive line and talent everywhere and a solid OC. Which is no longer the case.

To be fair, McKee played the Giants with backups

18 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Hypothetically, and I'm not wishing for this to happen because I believe they need to sink or swim with Hurts, but say Hurts rolls an ankle early 1Q vs the Raiders, has to leave the game and McKee comes in and throws for 350 yards 3 TDs and the Eagles put up 45 points.

Who starts vs the Commies the week after if Hurts is medically cleared?

Fan desire: McKee

Reality/Siri decision: Hurts

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I believe 99.9% you are correct. I always leave open some possibility for Howie to find and exploit some sort of trick you and others couldnt foresee. But thats not even my point. Im not focused on the 0.1% chance. I am saying, if it cant be done, he will be carried on the roster as a backup. Theyre not just going to say oh well and suffer through multiple more seasons of Jalen Hurts playing QB here when *everyone sees him as a big issue. Thats not how Howie rolls.

It may already be longer than anyone wants (speaking not only of QB change, but OC change, HC change...), but they dont typically make brash moves during season either.

This offseason, I believe all options will be on the table. And if trading or cutting are the unlikeliest of options, than that makes Hurts as the backup pretty likely then. Because, again, they arent going to just sit still and watch this fire burn for years and years.

*ps. I realize "everyone" is an overgeneralization as of this very moment, but its a growing number of people that does not seem insignificant anymore.

Having him on the roster as a backup is a debacle. In your scenario, if they really are done with Hurts, you try and trade him after June 1 to split up the cap hit. But that means you get 2027 draft picks, which sucks.

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Part of me wonders if he is dealing with an injury of some sort to his legs. Not that it’s an excuse for his performance but i remember he took a shot and got up slowly in one game. That said he had that happen like rams playoff game and looked fine next 2 games

As maybe #2 largest Hurts critic on the EMB who is unwilling to make Hurtscuses, I will still say I insist he was concussed earlier in this season. Was it the Tampa bay game? Since then, his deep ball accuracy has suffered pretty consistently. And it was also a consistent theme in games after that point where he would start pretty well, but by half time through the rest of the game, his processing got noticeably slower, and decision making got worse, and he would start taking a few bad sacks.

Unlike typical Hurts from seasons prior that drove me crazy in 1st halfs, and then pulls a couple great drives out of his ass to win a game, this year the script was opposite. He started ok and faded as the game went on.

I think the concussion slowed him down all year. And I also think that has made him hesitant to run, and take hits which coincides with the report that he wants less called runs.

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Daboll with the giants was a disaster as HC. Frankly thinkin jones was a franchise QB was a mistake by not only him but his GM. That said i care more about what he did to help in the development of Josh Allen. Allen didn’t come out of Wyoming polished and ready to go. He had a large learning curve and over time daboll was able to maximize him and develop him. Imo that is what i would like to have him for. Whether hurts or if they do manage to draft a QB he is there to help develop and hopefully make them better.

We know that there are coaches who are good coordinators but not good head coaches, and then return to be a coordinator position and do well. It would be great to have a guy without HC aspirations - at least for 2-3 seasons - to build an offense and help win championships. Then go off and be a head coach again if you like.

Just now, vikas83 said:

Having him on the roster as a backup is a debacle. In your scenario, if they really are done with Hurts, you try and trade him after June 1 to split up the cap hit. But that means you get 2027 draft picks, which sucks.

Hurts has been benched before and took it like a champ. I believe he will do it again in Philly and move on graciously when the eagles can finally do it affordably.

I dont think he is the kind of player to make it a debacle, so it wont be one.

53 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Sure, but he can't trade him as Vikas has explained to us numerous times. So, I'll settle for having him as a backup.

I would think contracts can be redone if both parties agree to it. Whether both parties could get together would be the question.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

To be fair, McKee played the Giants with backups

I know. I was generally saying that this roster is not favorable for him to succeed, as is last year's version. AJ still won't be open. Barkley still won't be running any better with this Oline and his dancing and he just may get sacked a bunch more than Hurts. They are seeing him in the light that this offense is not dysfunctional and disabled. I do think he has a chance. But just ain't the right time.