1 hour ago, Steve 17 said:

I also appreciated the intelligence to respond with more than an f u.  

 

I loled

7 hours ago, OCEaglefan said:

15 years ago this would have been its own ongoing thread 

with pics of the female jurors 

The cute one next to me all week is recently married and the other cute one (alternate) got released today. There is a chubby one that was talking with me for a bit at the start of lunch break but I am not that hard up for female companionship yet. 
 

also, 11 strangers picked me to be the foreman as I was minding my own business 

3 hours ago, 20dawk4life said:

Aren’t you in Minnesota? Nothing interesting has ever happened in Minnesota besides one thing. 

I am not on the George Floyd trial 

30 minutes ago, Agent23 said:

The cute one next to me all week is recently married and the other cute one (alternate) got released today. There is a chubby one that was talking with me for a bit at the start of lunch break but I am not that hard up for female companionship yet. 
 

also, 11 strangers picked me to be the foreman as I was minding my own business 

I am not on the George Floyd trial 

have you watched Jury Duty on Amazon Prime? Great, great show. 

2 hours ago, Agent23 said:

There is a chubby one that was talking with me for a bit at the start of lunch break 

I'll take her.

Judge Judy

10 hours ago, Agent23 said:

There is a chubby

Pics of hair?

11 hours ago, Agent23 said:

The cute one next to me all week is recently married and the other cute one (alternate) got released today. There is a chubby one that was talking with me for a bit at the start of lunch break but I am not that hard up for female companionship yet. 
 

also, 11 strangers picked me to be the foreman as I was minding my own business 

I am not on the George Floyd trial 

I assume it's because you constantly mentioned spreadsheets

21 hours ago, Agent23 said:

I forgot to share with my internet friends that your boy Agent is a member on an active jury this week. If anything interesting comes out I’ll have to update you all once the trial concludes! 

I once was on a jury for a domestic violence case where 4 generations all lived under the same roof and their names all began with the same letter.

12 hours ago, Agent23 said:

also, 11 strangers picked me to be the foreman as I was minding my own business 

12 minutes ago, paco said:

I once was on a jury for a domestic violence case where 4 generations all lived under the same roof and their names all began with the same letter.

so you were the foreman for the foreman case. sweat george/georgia brown. 

On 11/21/2023 at 5:11 PM, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Go Army! Beat Navy!!

 

 

Once again, Go Army! Beat Navy!!

18 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

have you watched Jury Duty on Amazon Prime? Great, great show. 

Yes, but at launch so trial-specific details are fuzzy. I’ll rewatch I think 

7 hours ago, BFit said:

I assume it's because you constantly mentioned spreadsheets

False, they don’t give you that opportunity 

 

but we all get to deliberation room which is first time we actually get to talk to one another about anything related to the case. It’s general chitchat for maybe 3 mins when the youngest guy in the group (seems late teens early 20s, stoner type) just says "I just want to put out there that I DON’T want to be the foreman”. Then the karate instructor goes "does anyone want to volunteer” and then bike shop guy points to me and says "I think you should be the foreman. You speak the best” and everyone else seemed to act in agreement. 
 

anyways, we voted not guilty about 50 mins ago. 

6 hours ago, paco said:

I once was on a jury for a domestic violence case where 4 generations all lived under the same roof and their names all began with the same letter.

That’s why they let us take notes! 

You were the most well spoken?

 

The defendant definitely got a jury of their peers 

20 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Jury Duty

That just reminded me of one time when I got the Jury Duty form in the mail, maybe 10 years ago. They had a bunch of yes or no questions you had to answer, like "Are you a fugitive from the law?", "Are you mentally insane?", "Have you ever been convicted of murder?"  Stuff like that. I filled it out and sent it back... about 2 weeks later, they called me to ask about my answers. I was apparently not paying close enough attention to how I answered because I answered the exact opposite on every question from what I meant to answer. 

So it looked something like this:

Are you a fugitive from the law? Yes
Are you mentally insane? Yes
Have you ever been convicted of murder? Yes

I don't remember what all the questions were, but I know that those were on it and that's how I answered, along with others probably asking about illegal drugs and whatever other kinds of crimes you can think of. 

The woman that called me to clarify my answers, laughed about it and said that she figured that I'd mistakenly said 'yes' to all those bad things because she'd never (ever) gotten ALL of those questions come up as "Yes" before lol. 

As it turned out, I got picked to be in the jury pool but the case was postponed and we were all released with our Jury Duty obligation fulfilled. 

8 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Once again, Go Army! Beat Navy!!

Go Army

14 hours ago, OCEaglefan said:

You were the most well spoken?

 

The defendant definitely got a jury of their peers 

Have you heard their stupid accents in Minnesota?  Of course he was the most well spoken. 

15 hours ago, OCEaglefan said:

You were the most well spoken?

 

The defendant definitely got a jury of their peers 

Well I don’t think he’s originally from Minnesota. Easy to speak better than those people. 

2 hours ago, paco said:

Have you heard their stupid accents in Minnesota?  

What are you talking aboot?

I executed my civic duties to perfection. And now the defendant won’t try to track me down and kill me. 

On 12/13/2024 at 3:22 PM, Agent23 said:

but we all get to deliberation room which is first time we actually get to talk to one another about anything related to the case. It’s general chitchat for maybe 3 mins when the youngest guy in the group (seems late teens early 20s, stoner type) just says "I just want to put out there that I DON’T want to be the foreman”. Then the karate instructor goes "does anyone want to volunteer” and then bike shop guy points to me and says "I think you should be the foreman. You speak the best” and everyone else seemed to act in agreement. 

I had a similar experience the only time I’ve ever been summoned for jury duty. I walked into the room on the first day as the last juror to arrive, and I was there almost 30 minutes early. The other jurors had agreed that the last person to arrive would be voted foreman, so I was the foreman. Ended up being a case with 23 or 24 charges of corruption of a minor/sexual assault/rape. We found the defendant guilty of all but 1 or 2 of the charges after a full day of deliberation. Very widely publicized event locally at the time. And I got the distinction of reading the entire list of charges one by one. 

14 hours ago, Imp81318 said:

I had a similar experience the only time I’ve ever been summoned for jury duty. I walked into the room on the first day as the last juror to arrive, and I was there almost 30 minutes early. The other jurors had agreed that the last person to arrive would be voted foreman, so I was the foreman. Ended up being a case with 23 or 24 charges of corruption of a minor/sexual assault/rape. We found the defendant guilty of all but 1 or 2 of the charges after a full day of deliberation. Very widely publicized event locally at the time. And I got the distinction of reading the entire list of charges one by one. 

they did not have me read any. I handed envelope to Judge, he read it off, and then had us (in unison) verify that it was the verdict we all agreed to. 

1 hour ago, Agent23 said:

they did not have me read any. I handed envelope to Judge, he read it off, and then had us (in unison) verify that it was the verdict we all agreed to. 

Every local court system seems to operate differently. In my case, the judge got a copy of the verdict for each charge, and I had to stand up on the jury box and read the entire list individually while the judge verified on their copy. 
 

I was actually glad to have gone through the process to see how the system works first-hand, but I still think back on the testimony that I heard that week and the terrible things that man did to those poor teenage girls. 

51 minutes ago, Imp81318 said:

Every local court system seems to operate differently. In my case, the judge got a copy of the verdict for each charge, and I had to stand up on the jury box and read the entire list individually while the judge verified on their copy. 
 

I was actually glad to have gone through the process to see how the system works first-hand, but I still think back on the testimony that I heard that week and the terrible things that man did to those poor teenage girls. 

We had 3 witnesses, which was 100% of the evidence. First was a 64ish year old father, who was the Owner of the Honda Pilot that was stolen. Basically he was there to testify that his son (40 years old, living at home) was the only person that has permission to drive his vehicle, and to state that he and his son jointly contacted police and spoke with a patrol officer the afternoon the vehicle was taken (~5pm contact with police, vehicle taken around 2-3ish).

Second was the 40yo son, who met the defendant (KD -- a 60ish black man with gray hair and gray beard) at an AA meeting Saturday night, where defendant asked for a ride home which victim agreed to because "he seemed like a nice guy and AA teaches us to help one another." But then states they drove around "for hours" all within like a 5 mile radius because "KD kept changing his mind or telling me to go a different direction". After these "hours" of driving around North Minneapolis city limits, got to a house and KD invited him inside, to which victim didn't want to go in, but "KD insisted I come inside", so victim finally gave in and agreed. Victim claims that KD went into some backroom for several hours, and he was left in the main room with "about 5-6 other people". When he tried to leave or voiced he wanted to leave, the people told him that he CAN'T leave without the other guy, and blocked the door and/or forced him to stay. He stayed up "all night long" because he didn't feel comfortable or safe", until sometime in the morning when KD returned from some other row, snatched his keys off a lanyard around victim's neck, and said "lets go"

When Defendant's attorney cross-examined about this "kidnapping/abduction", victim stated that he "killed time on his phone". So the entire night that he's trapped in this house, he had full access to his phone. Didn't text or try contacting anyone, never tried to make a call (to this he claimed other people were around the entire night so he didn't feel like he would be able to call police or someone else for help). Anyways, when left with KD in the morning, KD was "driving erratically, like hes never driven before or something, and didn't seem like he was getting the car into the right gear." Eventually they get to KDs apartment in South Minneapolis, where he is invited inside and "makes a sandwich". Couldn't tell if victim made the sandwich or if KD made it -- but either way made and had something to eat. After which they left with KD continuing to drive around erratically, including stopping at a Burger King and Holiday Gas Station -- but never getting out of car, never going inside these places, not even going into drive through. Just driving around aimlessly within the same 2mi stretch of road. Then KD claimed something was dragging or making noise under the car, stopped so victim could get out and look, and when victim got out, KD took off with the car. On cross exam, lawyer also questioned his going inside and getting a sandwich (victim said "I was hungry, I hadn't ate since lunch the day before"). Called dad after for license plate number, then cops, and eventually met with cops outside of the alleged apartment he had a sandwich at with KD. Neighbor overheard them, and gave Govt Name of the guy whos apartment they were at. Description to cop was "no facial hair and he had a hat on so I don't know what his hair looks like". Police ended up pulling a DMV photo of the name given by neighbor. 

Third and final witness was a cop that is part of a guns and narcotics taskforce in MN. Dude seemed like a special forces soldier. Most badass cop-type I've seen in person. He was working overnight that day, and responded to call around 11pm from plain clothes officer that he had a match for license plate reported stolen that afternoon. My guy traveled there and was strapped when approaching the vehicle. There was an ASIAN guy driving the Honda Pilot, clearly not the black dude listed earlier. Cop handcuffed and put Asian guy into squad car, but ultimately released him with a warning and police brought Honda into impound or whatever they do so they can get it back to owners. When reading back police statements from the date of the car being reported stolen, and his own personal report 4 days later (where he shared DMV photo of name initially given by neighbor), there was zero reference that everything started the NIGHT BEFORE. Zero reference to the ABDUCTION aka being held overnight. Zero reference to KD DRIVING THE CAR AROUND ERRATICALLY FOR HOURS THE MORNING/EARLY-AFTERNOON it was stolen. The only details given were "I met him at AA, he asked for a ride home, and when I stopped at a Holiday gas station and went into the store (leaving keys in the car), KD swapped from passenger to drive seat and took off with the car"

Of the 4 Elements that each needed to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, one of them was that the Defendant "knowingly took/drove the vehicle without permission". Zero video footage was taken from gas station, any of the countless city-wide surveillance cameras, etc. No Asian guy brought in as a witness to how/where/where he got the car. So the only evidence to KD every taking the car or driving it was from the victim -- and he gave two entirely different sets of stories between his witness testimony to us and what he told cops on the 3rd and 7th when they took down statements. I think I said in deliberations that "there's only one story of what happened -- and we have TWO stories from the SAME person. So if there are two versions of the story when there can only be one, that tells me there is just as strong a chance that there is a THIRD version of the story that none of us have heard.

Sadly we all believe that KD either stole the vehicle or maybe these guys were partying/relapsing/planning insurance fraud -- who knows what -- and maybe it got out of hand to the victim/son who was the one driving his vehicle (owned by his dad) -- but the evidence and what prosecution provided was weak, and the victim hurt his own credibility for us to be able to take him 100% truthful. 

 

1 hour ago, Agent23 said:

. After these "hours" of driving around North Minneapolis city limits, got to a house and KD invited him inside, to which victim didn't want to go in, but "KD insisted I come inside", so victim finally gave in and agreed. Victim claims that KD went into some backroom for several hours, and he was left in the main room with "about 5-6 other people". When he tried to leave or voiced he wanted to leave, the people told him that he CAN'T leave without the other guy, and blocked the door and/or forced him to stay. He stayed up "all night long" because he didn't feel comfortable or safe", until sometime in the morning when KD returned from some other row, snatched his keys off a lanyard around victim's neck, and said "lets go"

 

 

hey, ive seen this movie before.....

 

My birthday was last week - thanks a lot for the birthday wishes a-holes. I spent the day getting a breast reduction. So RIP to binky’s boobs. But on the plus side they are back up on my chest where they used to be. And now for some reason paco keeps going AHHOOOOGAH every time I walk by