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Carson Wentz discussion: no new topics about Wentz.

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2 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

If Howie can pull off two first rounders and Foles does that redeem Howie at all to anyone? I mean he still botched this whole dam thing. 

No.  He can make fantasy football trades but so can other GMs.  Other GMs manage the cap, sign players, renegotiate/extend, etc.

The main thing a GM needs to do well is draft, and evaluate personnel including scouts and other staff.  Howie is bad at those things, the main things a GM needs to do.

An Accountant (he was one!) can handle the contracts and salary cap.  

Look at the Bucs, I've seen many articles and even comments during the game about how it wasn't just Brady, but years of good drafting to build the Bucs team.  Howie cannot do that.

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11 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

I wonder how he would perform with 12 different Oline configurations, less Kelce (and his backup) for a big chunk of the season, while missing several of his starting WRs for stretches (How about Greg Ward replacing Tyreek Hill?  LOL).   Given how it went down with just the tackles missing last night....not good!   

In the end in don’t think he would quit and bail on his team so there is that.🤷‍♂️

1 hour ago, JBENT87 said:

someone wrote a good piece in the last 6 months or so about how he hasn't been the same since his early season back injury the year after the SB I think it was

His decision making was so dramatically worse last year I seriously wonder if that big league concussion from the Wild Card game had a permanent effect.  I do remember articles saying he has mutliple weeks of symptoms.

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

In the end in don’t think he would quit and bail on his team so there is that.🤷‍♂️

I can't imagine that you are really as stupid as your pivoting arguments sound in here, but anything is possible.

You have zero idea what he would or wouldn't do.   He does have a better coach to help though.

Just now, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

I can't imagine that you are really as stupid as your pivoting arguments sound in here, but anything is possible.

I just don’t want waste time arguing with a fool who thinks Carson is as good as Mahomes. It’s a waste of time to go bath and forth with you idiot bean baggers. 

1 hour ago, brkmsn said:

Was Mahomes playing "hero ball?" Is it okay when he does it?

Chiefs had the worst performance i have seen from an OLine all year and that's saying a lot cuz i watched a lot of eagles.  it was like the 2nd half of the Skins opener all game long.

3 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

If Howie can pull off two first rounders and Foles does that redeem Howie at all to anyone? I mean he still botched this whole dam thing. 

Definitely not a full redemption, just one correction out of his numerous mistakes. 

49 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

I can't imagine that you are really as stupid as your pivoting arguments sound in here, but anything is possible.

Now he wants to bath with you, creepy.

47 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I just don’t want waste time arguing with a fool who thinks Carson is as good as Mahomes. It’s a waste of time to go bath and forth with you idiot bean baggers. 

 

 

1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

I just don’t want waste time arguing with a fool who thinks Carson is as good as Mahomes. It’s a waste of time to go bath and forth with you idiot bean baggers. 

You were so much better as bobbywizdum on the other board. What happened to you?

3 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

You were so much better as bobbywizdum on the other board. What happened to you?

Do you thinks its him ??

34 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Now he wants to bath with you, creepy.

Oh, my!  Now we know how his mind works.

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Do you thinks its him ??

I think bobby would be an upgrade, but the same weird overtones pmand contrarian views are there.  May be him.

Latest rumor:

Eagles give up Wentz and a 2021 2nd rd pick to the Bears.

Bears give up 2021 1st rounder, 2022 2nd rounder, Foles and Roquan Smith.

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The Eagles royally screwed up this whole situation but let’s not absolve Wentz of blame either. He’s not innocent in all this. His Type-A personality, lack of accountability and unwillingness to be coached didn’t help matters. Did the Eagles create a culture that allowed those negative aspects of Wentz to thrive? Yeah, probably. But Wentz is a grownup too and he has even admitted at times that he needed to work on the relationship-building part of his personality. And he certainly could have handled things better when the Eagles drafted Jalen Hurts. Sure, the Eagles could have taken a player to help him and their decision to draft Hurts will always be a head-scratcher to me. But you just wish you would have seen more competitiveness out of Wentz. Despite all that went wrong in 2020, Wentz possesses the talent to overcome a lot and we never saw it.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/3-thoughts-about-eagles-upcoming-trade-carson-wentz?fbclid=IwAR1B5nTDP5H1nI-yZqDrex-96wNmUsiviB4j_lY_rZ2epfi_Esqjl-dvgZA

 

20 minutes ago, Madriver said:

Latest rumor:

Eagles give up Wentz and a 2021 2nd rd pick to the Bears.

Bears give up 2021 1st rounder, 2022 2nd rounder, Foles and Roquan Smith.

So we essentially get a 1st this year and move our 2nd rounder to next year, along with a backup QB and a stud LB?  Yeah, it would be palatable.

20 minutes ago, Madriver said:

Latest rumor:

Eagles give up Wentz and a 2021 2nd rd pick to the Bears.

Bears give up 2021 1st rounder, 2022 2nd rounder, Foles and Roquan Smith.

I will take that and run as fast as I can lol

21 minutes ago, Madriver said:

Latest rumor:

Eagles give up Wentz and a 2021 2nd rd pick to the Bears.

Bears give up 2021 1st rounder, 2022 2nd rounder, Foles and Roquan Smith.

yes please

 

Roquan Smith would make a big impact on this D.  I'd much rather have him then Cohen.

Just now, Outlaw said:

Roquan Smith would make a big impact on this D.  I'd much rather have him then Cohen.

I would buy one of those shirt/jerseys tomorrow. Been a long time since we have had a linebacker like him. Its not just the talent, its the mentality and leadership.

27 minutes ago, Madriver said:

Latest rumor:

Eagles give up Wentz and a 2021 2nd rd pick to the Bears.

Bears give up 2021 1st rounder, 2022 2nd rounder, Foles and Roquan Smith.

Hold out for the water boy too

47 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

You were so much better as bobbywizdum on the other board. What happened to you?

 

45 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Do you thinks its him ??

Both were posters on the old board.  I don't see their style as similar here either.

29 minutes ago, Madriver said:

Latest rumor:

Eagles give up Wentz and a 2021 2nd rd pick to the Bears.

Bears give up 2021 1st rounder, 2022 2nd rounder, Foles and Roquan Smith.

I haven't watched enough Bears' games to have an informed opinion, but I thought Smith was a cornerstone for their defense? Shocked they would give him up.

Don't love giving up the 2021 2nd. Basically we move up 17 slots, get a 2022 2nd, Smith and Foles. Still, we have limited leverage. I'd do it and rip off the band aid. 

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