4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

He looks indecisive when he does look to run like he isn't sure if he should or not . That would lead to not being explosive as well

Yeah I’m not saying I know for sure that he’s injured, but for whatever the reason he doesn’t look right. Of the two options (he looks indecisive or he’s possibly injured) I would feel better that he was injured. If after 5 years he’s just indecisive it’s a far bigger issue. 

2 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

He looks the same to me when he moves. What I have seen this season is Washington used a "spy" and created a lot of pressure with their D-line. In the Rams game, the game plan was simply to not hold the ball very long. So we just haven't seen the runs from him. 

Yeah I don’t see the same guy. The Washington game a player came up and he didn’t even try to get away. He did some type of cradle hit that almost got him injured. In the Rams game there was a blitz where he got the ball out to Goedert I believe and he took a big shot. In the past Carson would have spun out of those situations. I just don’t see that stuff anymore. Maybe it’s nothing, but I don’t see the same guy. 

30 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Right now I don’t see a team that’s fighting at least not for a full game. The defensive line was horrible I. This game. The DEs lost containment all game. The DTs hardly did anything. The defensive coaches never adjusted. Then there’s  the quarterback who looks clueless and looks like his confidence is rattled. 

The D was atrocious. Wentz was really really bad but the D was atrocious. No fight, no real plan, no desire. They were getting dismantled yet were just sat on the sidelines, some were even smiling!

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

The D was atrocious. Wentz was really really bad but the D was atrocious. No fight, no real plan, no desire. They were getting dismantled yet were just sat on the sidelines, some were even smiling!

Well most of those defenders have fat wallets and rings especially on that sideline. Not too many hungry guys left. Worse no young guys to take over that you’re excited to see. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Well most of those defenders have fat wallets and rings especially on that sideline. Not too many hungry guys left. Worse no young guys to take over that you’re excited to see. 

And those guys need to be moved on. I think BG still has that hunger? But he also shouldn't be our best DE at this point. That's on Howie though. 

Saw this on reddit. It seemed fitting. 😂🤣😂🤣

Carson Wentz and the Great "Gun Slinger" Excuse...I am so sick of people trying to justify Wentz and his stupid decisions with "oh hes a gunslinger so the good comes with the bad" they used it with Favre and now him. By this point in his career he should realize throwing it into double coverage is not a good idea. Maybe its the Hurts pick getting in his head but hes been a bottom 5 QB in the first 2 games. 

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

And those guys need to be moved on. I think BG still has that hunger? But he also shouldn't be our best DE at this point. That's on Howie though. 

BGs a good guy. I like him, but he should not be an Eagle right now. If Howie drafted better he would have been gone. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

BGs a good guy. I like him, but he should not be an Eagle right now. If Howie drafted better he would have been gone. 

He's a great guy and if we had young guys for him to mentor and help then he'd be ideal still being here. But we don't.

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

He's a great guy and if we had young guys for him to mentor and help then he'd be ideal still being here. But we don't.

I don’t see any young guys on defense I’m excited to see play right now. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t see any young guys on defense I’m excited to see play right now. 

I like Edwards. And I guess I'm hopeful Mills can develop at Safety. Other than that? Yeah there's nobody. 

1 minute ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I like Edwards. And I guess I'm hopeful Mills can develop at Safety. Other than that? Yeah there's nobody. 

Yeah those guys are take it or leave it players. They don’t look like special players to me.

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah those guys are take it or leave it players. They don’t look like special players to me.

Oh no absolutely not. But as part of a revamped defense they could prove to be decent to good players. 

Just now, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh no absolutely not. But as part of a revamped defense they could prove to be decent to good players. 

Mills is on one year and I’m not sure about Edwards. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

Mills is on one year and I’m not sure about Edwards. 

If Mills shows enough though they may bring him back? Not sure anyone else is going to be that interested in him. 

On 9/20/2020 at 5:15 PM, nipples said:

I love Foles for what he did, but he’s not the guy you make your franchise QB. He is even more hot and cold than Wentz, lucky for us he just happened to be red hot in the playoffs that year. But there is a reason he lost his starting jobs to: Case Keenum, Gardner Minchew, and failed to beat out Trubisky. 

You're generalizing . . . . how about a whole lot of bad luck ?? 

Foles was damn near ruined by known 'QB killer' Jeff Fisher . . . who is still out of the league since 2016.

Foles had just started his 1st game for the Jaguars when he got crushed in the 1st Q while tossing a perfect TD strike. He suffered a broken collar bone to the same shoulder & collar bone he'd broken in 2014 & 2018 ! At least it wasn't his throwing arm but he wasn't the same player when they tried to bring him back in week #11 . . . just like Wentz wasn't yet healed from his knee injury when they brought him back too quickly.  And as for Trubisky, please. The dude has played "OK" but has largely underwhelmed . . . considering he was picked #2 in the first round on draft day 2017. Much like the Eagles & Wentz, Chicago has a lot invested in Trubisky . . . so of course he's gonna get the nod over Foles, barring catastrophic failure.

Foles has his issues just like most QBs do. But given his history of being stuck in bad situations I'm inclined to cut him some slack.

Especially for what he did for us here in Philly.   

I think Carson's  extra 15 or 20 pounds of "dad bod" is having the same effect that McNabb's yearly offseason 15 to 20 pound weight gain had. We're seeing a far less mobile QB who still believes he's elusive in the pocket when that's no longer the case. Add in the weakest offensive line he's had since coming here and you've got a recipe for disaster. Maybe the Hurts pick wasn't as outrageously horrible as I first thought.

14 hours ago, time2rock said:

Wentz just isn’t what we were hoping he’d be. Most unfortunate (especially considering the contract we gave him recently).  Hopefully if he continues to play questionable ball (at best) that pounds the final nail in Howie’s coffin so that we get someone with a real eye for talent in charge of personnel.  

So . . . what's Tom Modrak doing these days?

Oh, wait . . . he be busy building God's Pro Bowl team.  <g>

17 hours ago, 97is said:

Wentz has been straight up garbage this year. Just like McNabb back in the day, got married had a kid turned to trash on the football field

Interesting analogy . . . you can also add Wentz no longer scrambling in there just like McNabb did.

McNabb was most dangerous as the double threat of runner / passer. Once he retired to the pocket 

was when all those worms got killed and accuracy became an issue. Sound familiar?

14 hours ago, 97is said:

Wentz has been straight up garbage this year. Just like McNabb back in the day, got married had a kid turned to trash on the football field

Both made plays with their feet... then they 'bulked up in the offseason'.

The last 2 games have been Wentz. He's the one that was holding on to the ball to long the 1st game. He's the one that threw those int's that all 3 were undercut by the DBs. He has lost his football smarts. I can't blame it on lack of preseason as the starters rarely play in preseason anyway, and all teams are in the same boat. The last 2 games he is missing (not seeing) open WRs/TEs. These last 2 games falls on Wentz, the 1st one more than the 2nd. But leaders lead, he had an opportunity to take the lead, but forces a pass into double coverage to the worst WR on the team. He needs to be smarter. 

14 hours ago, Doyoubelieve#20 said:

I don’t know if they are scared of him getting hurt again doing that so he’s doing it less but we might need it to win, he needs to go back to what made him in 2017, forget about gaining weight and trying to be something he’s not, lose some weight and start running wild lol

I still recall the game with that Washington FB Team where Wentz was surrounded by like 3 - 4 or 5 Washingtonians . . .

and Wentz ducked down low and broke away from them for a big gainer. It was a great play that we're never gonna see again.

I am never one to root for the backup QB because it is always a knee jerk reaction.

However, you have to really sit there and take notice of what is happening in the league. All the young QBs have the extra dimension of being able to run out of the pocket to move the chains. This is league is no longer a league where you can just sit back in the pocket.

I do wonder if the Eagles will end up in the tank this year, blow up the entire thing in the off season especially with the way their cap is, and our new starting QB next year is Hurts.

Physically, I think Wentz is fine. I still see his athleticism, only he's not using it to make positive plays. He's hesitating to take off and run. His throwing accuracy is off. He is not making good decisions. It seems to me like he's processing too much. I don't know what the problem is but it could be a combination of things: poor coaching, he's no longer playing behind a dominant line so he's rattled, he's afraid of reinjuring his back or his knee and it's holding him back,...

1 hour ago, McNabbIsDone said:

You're generalizing . . . . how about a whole lot of bad luck ?? 

Foles was damned near ruined by 'QB killer' Jeff Fisher . . . who is still out of the league since 2016.

Foles had just started his 1st game for the Jaguars when he got crushed in the 1st Q whilst tossing a perfect TD strike. He suffered a broken collar bone to the same shoulder & collar bone he'd broken in 2014 & 2018 !  He wasn't the same player when they tried to bring him back in week #11 . . . just like Wentz wasn't yet healed from his knee injury when they brought him back too quickly.  And as for Trubisky, please. The dude has played "OK" but has largely underwhelmed . . . considering he was picked #2 in the first round on draft day 2017. Much like the Eagles & Wentz Chicago has a lot invested in Trubisky . . . so of course he's gonna get the nod over Foles, barring catastrophic failure.

Foles has his issues just like most QBs do . . . but given his history of bad situations I'm inclined to cut him some slack.

Especially for what he did for us here in Philly.   

See this is what others don't want to hear. People are easy to forget about the good plays when random bad crap happens to QBs. We all need to look at big pictures over a span of games and not 1 off happenings.

Nick Career when given the chance with proper coaching has done very well. He was great for Eagles with Chip, then he goes to Rams with one of the worst coaches in history. Then goes back to Reed for 2 games does well 1-1. Then comes home to philly...we all know what happen. Then goes to Jags..1 game he was in it was a perfect bomb pass TD. He looked like crap coming back because of the injury. It was rushed. Bears will never let Trubisky lose the starting job. Foles had no chance to win it no matter what in practice. Bears ego is to strong right now.

Foles career is not done and lets see.

 

Now on to Wentz and another bad game.

I still believe Wentz has all the talent in the world but keeps making bone head play after bone head play. In all honesty I still believe it comes down to Coach and QB being on the same page. Doug is clear he wants to run these type of plays and Carson just can't do it. That doesn't mean Carson is bad QB but this Duo we have of QB and Coach is not working. There was a tweet by Eliot stating something I thought was interesting "As a QB/HC duo, Carson Wentz and Doug Pederson are 7-15 against teams that are not WSH/NYG since the start of 2018"

If we keep falling the way we do we will need either a change at QB or Coach but 1 has to go IF we keep on this trend.