27 minutes ago, VeeMak said:

Dallas defensive unit had 4 turnovers on the season heading into the game last night. Thanks to Wentz, they now have 8 on the season.  

Yes, 4 turnovers by one player is a bit much.

I think one of his biggest issues at this point is he overestimating his mobility.  Watching him play a NDSU he was typically bigger and faster than the guys on defense, hopefully by now he realizes he's not at NDSU anymore, the NFL players are bigger and faster than he is, if his instincts were up-to-par he'd but OK they're not, more often than not he doesn't realize when to bolt. 

4 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Yes, 4 turnovers by one player is a bit much.

I think one of his biggest issues at this point is he overestimating his mobility.  Watching him play a NDSU he was typically bigger and faster than the guys on defense, hopefully by now he realizes he's not at NDSU anymore, the NFL players are bigger and faster than he is, if his instincts were up-to-par he'd but OK they're not, more often than not he doesn't realize when to bolt. 

I'm not even sure he overestimates his mobility. I think he overestimates his ability to always make plays. He seems to think he can always make plays with guys draped all over him. But he also doesn't do a good enough job of holding on to the ball. He keeps it in one hand with a defensive player all over him! I mean that is just asking for trouble and he isn't learning. I think that second fumble was 54 in his NFL career? I mean jeez what is with this guy?

7 hours ago, phil77 said:

My biggest question is what is going on with him?  You can’t say look at all the INTs that is who he is because he has never been that way in his entire career so why all the INTs now?  Fumbles are one thing he has always had a fumbling problem but he has never had any INT problem before so why now? 

To be honest he was very fortunate to throw so few picks earlier in his career. He has always had accuracy issues and when he misses, he misses high. Those are high potentials for interceptions. I think there was a stat last year or the year before where he had like the most "dropped interceptions” in the league that season. 

Last night was a great example of why injuries alone were never an excuse. Wentz has had and still has issues independent of those around him. It doesn’t seem to be getting better either. 

Just now, EagleJoe8 said:

Last night was a great example of why injuries alone were never an excuse. Wentz has had and still has issues independent of those around him. It doesn’t seem to be getting better either. 

It feels like even his pre-snap reads are getting worse every year, and he gets worse against the blitz. You would think by year 5 he would have learned when the blitz comes, get it out quick into the void left by the blitzer(s). That second fumble on the 4th down play should have been an easy first down to the wide open receiver he had there. 

7 hours ago, Road to Victory said:

He actually reminds me of Brett Favre... not when Favre was good but at the end of his career when he would just throw the ball up for grabs. I think Doug should just dumb it down for him and run the plays they did in his rookie year. j

True, I'm not really sure what you even do in this case. We've been saying the same thing for a full calendar year with no real improvement.

38 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'm not even sure he overestimates his mobility. I think he overestimates his ability to always make plays. He seems to think he can always make plays with guys draped all over him. 

Well he thinks he's mobile enough to escape when guys are draped all over him.

7 minutes ago, BirdsFanBill said:

True, I'm not really sure what you even do in this case. We've been saying the same thing for a full calendar year with no real improvement.

What should have happened is Doug should have had the balls to bench Wentz at halftime and go with the rookie. When your starting QB looks like trash and is hurting the offense, what’s the harm in getting a look at someone else?

In fact I think that if Doug truly believes in his offense and his play calls, then he needs to make that switch at some point. Then if Hurts goes out there and executes well and the offense looks much better he can say "See? My offense is fine when my quarterback runs it correctly.”

The problem is Doug, not Wentz

I was at the game last night, and I saw the same thing as usual. No recs are getting open. When you guys are watching these games on TV you cant see all teh recs and coverage, they are just not getting open. Wentz is trying to buy time to get someone, anyone open which is creating these fumble issues. Now yes, he needs to be smarter with just throwing away the ball. But the play design is just so plain Jane the defense knows whats coming. Zero creativity in scheme. Everything is the same comeback route on the outside and a go route. 

The Cowboys are a fast pace blitzing team. Doug should have been game planning for RPOs, crosses, drags, slants, uses the Hb in the flats, swings, wheels. Mix some short outs, curls in there. Routes that get the ball out fast and can flood areas to open up the zone that Dallas likes to play on the back end. Doug had a week and a half to game plan for this and failed in all areas. 

Now the other issues is these recs. Reagor yes it waas his first game back, but he is the fault of the Wentz INT. When Wentz threw that ball Reagor had a step on both DBs, you can see him give up and slow down at the back end which results in the DB running by him to pick it off. Maybe Jalen thought Wentz was throwing it out of bounds but you never give up on a route till the play is dead. This is the 2nnd pick that was his fault in his short career. Week 1 he ran a lazy comeback route that he never came back, he faded outside which lead to the DB jumping the route. 

Now for Hightower and the 2nd pick. This one could be either or. Wentz said where the DB was in position the right spot to place the ball is outside, where he threw the ball and Hightoiwer was not on the same page and cut inside. There is a major disconnect between these recs and Wentz. Seams only Travis is making the plays and going after the ball. 

Until Doug gives up play calling, game planning this team and Wentz will fail and not be successful. 

11 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Well he thinks he's mobile enough to escape when guys are draped all over him.

No I just think he backs himself too much to still make the play. Don't think he expects to evade pressure at that point.

The problem with Wentz is that he thinks he can escape and make a play on every play. He is really reckless with the ball and plays hero ball. If he was a rookie or a second year player you can be like.. he will learn with time. But in year 5 he does not have these excuses. Its just frustrating and really infuriating. 

So this week vs. Cowboys turned out to be a weather game: the winds were gusting the entire night. I can't totally blame Wentz for bad accuracy on his throws, the wind likely caught them. And I thought Diggs made a spectacular play to stay inbounds on the first INT. But why his he even trying to make those throws downfield when Scott is gashing them every time he runs the ball? 4.7 ypc? Why did he only get 15 rushes? Is it bad play calling? Bad decision making to try the throw downfield for the big-play? The fumbles are on Wentz. When it's a weather game, you must protect the football. Why does Wentz continue to play hero ball when the play breaks down, taking sacks and fumbling? Instead he should be throwing the ball away. And Doug just shrugs his shoulders, that's just Wentz being Wentz...? Frustrating.

On 9/14/2020 at 8:52 AM, nicks said:

Fly Enablers Fly on the Road to 7-9(not bad enough to get Lawrence)

7 wins seems a little ambitious. 😂🤣😂

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

7 wins seems a little ambitious. 😂🤣😂

I mean it does but... Beat NY, beat Dallas again and perhaps win against WFT. That takes us to 6...

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean it does but... Beat NY, beat Dallas again and perhaps win against WFT. That takes us to 6...

I don’t know if they win against Dalton especially if Wentz is playing worse than Mark Sanchez. 

45 minutes ago, manz2821 said:

The problem with Wentz is that he thinks he can escape and make a play on every play. He is really reckless with the ball and plays hero ball. If he was a rookie or a second year player you can be like.. he will learn with time. But in year 5 he does not have these excuses. Its just frustrating and really infuriating. 

That's what I think too.  When you listen to him and Doug in press conferences, they don't see the need to change either.  They talk about fighting and believing in themselves and very light on correcting issues.  Maybe that's public facing, but it doesn't seem it's internal either because we don't see the changes on the field.  

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t know if they win against Dalton especially if Wentz is playing worse than Mark Sanchez. 

I think Dallas wins with Dalton. They route us with Dak. Dallas has a historically bad defense and we manage all of 15 offensive points. I know there are some out there who have the "a win is a win” mentality, but anyone who has the ability to see the forest through the trees can see how we’re winning is not sustainable. 

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I don’t know if they win against Dalton especially if Wentz is playing worse than Mark Sanchez. 

Press Taylor needs to be replaced with someone who will coach Wentz hard to try to get him back on track.  Pampering him is not doing him any good.  

It kinda seemed to me that Wentz gave no f's about the game bc he knew they would win even if he made poor decisions. Our O showed nothing special except when they needed to. Wentz threw some dimes to Fulgham who got open early in the route (dude has been a diamond in the rough. What a find). 

1 minute ago, time2rock said:

Press Taylor needs to be replaced with someone who will coach Wentz hard to try to get him back on track.  Pampering him is not doing him any good.  

No it’s not, and if Wentz won’t take to hard coaching, then we need to begin life after Wentz sooner rather than later. 
 

Right now Wentz seems like a likable guy, but an entitlement complex and selfishness can change that in a big hurry. 

2 minutes ago, time2rock said:

Press Taylor needs to be replaced with someone who will coach Wentz hard to try to get him back on track.  Pampering him is not doing him any good.  

Yeah I’m just not sure how much coaching Carson’s willing to take now. I just think it’s too late for any of that. His instincts tell him he has to play hero ball to win. He’s already said he’s not changing. He is who he is and we just need to accept the fact some series he’s gonna look like trash and other series he will wow you. It’s like he has no happy medium. 

11 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I mean it does but... Beat NY, beat Dallas again and perhaps win against WFT. That takes us to 6...

Im not sure we beat all of them again. NY we only beat because of a drop pass. Skins might win this div. They actually look the best at this point. 6 might be the number. I think we might get a upset win over one of the big dogs but will lose of of the div games we should win. 

1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

I think Dallas wins with Dalton. They route us with Dak. Dallas has a historically bad defense and we manage all of 15 offensive points. I know there are some out there who have the "a win is a win” mentality, but anyone who has the ability to see the forest through the trees can see how we’re winning is not sustainable. 

After the bye they get the Giants again. Then the following teams: Browns (5-3), Seahawks(6-1), Packers(5-2), Saints(5-2), Cardinals(5-2).  

I have no words for that abomination we saw last night. I literally had to stop watching at half time. I honestly do not know what's wrong with Wentz but his play was inexcusable.

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

After the bye they get the Giants again. Then the following teams: Browns (5-3), Seahawks(6-1), Packers(5-2), Saints(5-2), Cardinals(5-2).  

Not one of which I feel good about.