1 hour ago, macgregor said:

I guess it’s not so much a mystery when they include a pic of the QB. 

13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

it’s a fine line between giving up on a play and making a big play.

He's got a little bit of Brett Favre in him.  It took Brett a few seasons to figure out that it's sometimes OK to not make the big play, that's when the pack got really good.  

I understand QB's can go into prolonged funks. The thing that bothers me about Wentz are the things Carson says he will correct- then never does. When week after week you say the same thing over and over at a press conference about again having multiple, avoidable turnovers, footwork, holding the ball too long, etc, it's time to sit on the bench to let it REALLY sink in. It's NOT going to sink in if you just let him keep doing it. Ever paper train a dog?? If you don't, he will just keep on crapping all over the place. Smack Wentz with a rolled up paper, rub his nose in his repeated mistakes and sit him on the bench for a game. THAT will get results, if there any to be had. Thank you, thank you very much.

Media has been discussing conerms of wentz’s attitude and how it isnt helping him improve just as much as it’s discussed here. Not sure if it’s them parroting us or their own observations.  
 

for me, i think it’s an issue. 

8 hours ago, macgregor said:

Lmao!!!!!

 

checkmate to any washer 

Was Winston leading his division after those 8 games?🙃

2017 was a total fluke. Wentz isn't who we thought he was. Still some remaining hold outs, just come clean already.

2 hours ago, T-1000 said:

2017 was a total fluke. Wentz isn't who we thought he was. Still some remaining hold outs, just come clean already.

I don't think 2017 was a complete fluke. We saw at the end of last year what he can do and he did that with far less. I just think it was an exaggeration of what he is. He capable of having plays, drives and even games like he did in 2017. But he doesn't have the consistency to keep it up. 

5 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't think 2017 was a complete fluke. We saw at the end of last year what he can do and he did that with far less. I just think it was an exaggeration of what he is. He capable of having plays, drives and even games like he did in 2017. But he doesn't have the consistency to keep it up. 

He also did it against terrible NFC East teams at the end of last season though. Not like he was lighting up playoff quality teams. 

20 hours ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

He's got a little bit of Brett Favre in him.  It took Brett a few seasons to figure out that it's sometimes OK to not make the big play, that's when the pack got really good.  

Brett Favre was actual NFL MVP, led the league in touchdowns and had his career passing yards year in year 5,  it's also instructive given Wentz struggles to look at the mess Favre had at receiver that year, Robert Brooks a guy who hadn't broken 700 yards in his career was the best receiver they had (Antonio Freeman did next to nothing his rookie year), he made near as dammit 1500 yards that year and 13TD's.

6 hours ago, nipples said:

He also did it against terrible NFC East teams at the end of last season though. Not like he was lighting up playoff quality teams. 

Yeah I mean again it's all about looking at this in context right? You've got to look at things with a balanced view. The reality is, Carson isn't an elite QB, but he's also not as terrible as he's been so far this year. 

Let's face it, If the Eagles had a do-over on his contract, there is no way in hell they sign him long-term. Howie has signed some bad contracts in the past, but if Wentz keeps this level of play up, his will be the worst one yet.

Wentz Brothers Outdoors lmao

4 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Yeah I mean again it's all about looking at this in context right? You've got to look at things with a balanced view. The reality is, Carson isn't an elite QB, but he's also not as terrible as he's been so far this year. 

Carson is doing the same things he did in the past, but he just got away with it before. Carson is a gambler, and with them you can at times get away with the gambles. Eventually the house usually wins if you keep gambling. This isn’t division 2 football. You can’t do stupid things like constantly throwing into triple coverage and throwing basically arm throws in the NFL and expect that to keep working. Good to great teams over the years (even when he was good) have exposed Carson constantly. 

On 11/10/2020 at 3:29 PM, EricAllenPick6 said:

He's got a little bit of Brett Favre in him.  It took Brett a few seasons to figure out that it's sometimes OK to not make the big play, that's when the pack got really good.  

Funny cause Favre recently said the Eagles should have kept Fole over Wentz. Maybe Favre doesn’t see that little bit of himself in Wentz. Then again maybe Favre was speaking on his best friend Pederson’s behalf? 

16 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I don't think 2017 was a complete fluke. We saw at the end of last year what he can do and he did that with far less.

Here's the problem with play at the end of the year, often it's garbage time for those teams that aren't in the playoff hunt, they just want the season to be over.

 

5 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Brett Favre was actual NFL MVP, led the league in touchdowns and had his career passing yards year in year 5,  it's also instructive given Wentz struggles to look at the mess Favre had at receiver that year, Robert Brooks a guy who hadn't broken 700 yards in his career was the best receiver they had (Antonio Freeman did next to nothing his rookie year), he made near as dammit 1500 yards that year and 13TD's.

I'll tell you what, Robert Brooks was a damn good receiver.

6 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Brett Favre was actual NFL MVP, led the league in touchdowns and had his career passing yards year in year 5,  it's also instructive given Wentz struggles to look at the mess Favre had at receiver that year, Robert Brooks a guy who hadn't broken 700 yards in his career was the best receiver they had (Antonio Freeman did next to nothing his rookie year), he made near as dammit 1500 yards that year and 13TD's.

Brett farve actually came out and said the eagles picked the wrong QB so there is that as well. So the guy Wentz idolized isn't even on his side

1 hour ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Brett farve actually came out and said the eagles picked the wrong QB so there is that as well. So the guy Wentz idolized isn't even on his side

Those weren't exactly his words and it has nothing to do with "being on Carson's side" or not. 

For comparison purposes, Wentz has 70 career regular season turnovers (64 starts) so far (1.1 per start). Favre had 410 (298 starts) (1.4 per start). Favre has 1.75 total TDs (passing /rushing) per start and Wentz has 1.8 total TDs per start. Just saying ...

5 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

Those weren't exactly his words and it has nothing to do with "being on Carson's side" or not. 

For comparison purposes, Wentz has 70 career regular season turnovers (64 starts) so far (1.1 per start). Favre had 410 (298 starts) (1.4 per start). Favre has 1.75 total TDs (passing /rushing) per start and Wentz has 1.8 total TDs per start. Just saying ...

He still said eagles should of kept foles over Wentz doenet exactly ring an endorsement for Wentz and now everyone in the organization is coming out saying Farves words have no weight to it and they still back carson. 

Great players often are clueless when it comes to personnel evaluation, coaches too for that matter. Still, when a Hall of Fame quarterback makes clear that he’s not impressed with the guy you just paid a boat load of money to....not what you’re looking for. 

On 11/10/2020 at 5:51 PM, SNOORDA said:

Media has been discussing conerms of wentz’s attitude and how it isnt helping him improve just as much as it’s discussed here. Not sure if it’s them parroting us or their own observations.  
 

for me, i think it’s an issue. 

I think it's becoming more obvious by the week and outsiders are starting t catch on. Wentz doesn't seem very teachable.

4 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

He still said eagles should of kept foles over Wentz doenet exactly ring an endorsement for Wentz and now everyone in the organization is coming out saying Farves words have no weight to it and they still back carson. 

What he actually said:

"I think (Wentz) is very capable. I think we’re all in agreement that he has the tools. I actually thought they should have kept Nick Foles rather than Carson Wentz, just based off of production and where they got to. You know, they won a Super Bowl with Foles. They’re obviously banking on (Wentz’s) upside, but how many more years do you let him linger before you stick with him or cut bait?”

From Jan, 2019

"You know the old saying, 'Dance with the one who brung you?'" Favre said. "I don't want to come across as knocking Carson Wentz at all, because I'm not. I think a lot of him. But I would go with Nick Foles, I really would ... They are both good. I just, I really like what I've seen from both guys but in particular Nick Foles, especially considering the circumstances in which he has come in."

Favre went on to say that Wentz has "already proven that he's a great quarterback." But it's Foles' history of clutch-time performances, including this season's improbable playoff run, that truly inspires the Green Bay Packers legend.

"Nick Foles, to me, is more of a (Tom) Brady-esque-type quarterback," Favre said. "Very limited in what he can do but very, very good in what he does. He's a pure pocket passer, and he's great at dishing it out, and he's proven that he's clutch ... he's proven that he can win the big games. That, I think, is what we have to look at, or the Eagles -- it's about winning, it's about being clutch, doing, really, what you expect your players to do. And he does it as well as anyone."

7 hours ago, EagleVA said:

Here's the problem with play at the end of the year, often it's garbage time for those teams that aren't in the playoff hunt, they just want the season to be over.

 

That and Washington and NY were, and still are, bad teams and Dallas had quit on their coach.