September 25Sep 25 https://www.wate.com/news/local-news/tennessee-supreme-court-denies-pike-stay/She's scheduled to be executed on September 30. I am against the death penalty in general, but don't think she doesn't deserve it. The victim's mother, if I read correctly, wants a front row seat.I wonder if the (republican) Governor of TN will grant clemency. I would think not, given the party affiliation.
October 1Oct 1 I used to support capital punishment more broadly but now only do for the most extreme and well established cases like KSM for 9/11, who incidentally is up for trial soon.
October 1Oct 1 8 hours ago, NOTW said:WelpLethal injection is barbaric. Giving them a cigarette and putting a bullet through their head would be more humane.
October 1Oct 1 So how does this happen? They missed her vein and shot the meds into her arm anyway? Gov of TN has halted all executions for the remainder of this year.
October 1Oct 1 5 minutes ago, DiPros said:So how does this happen? They missed her vein and shot the meds into her arm anyway? Gov of TN has halted all executions for the remainder of this year.Not sure in this case, but in other cases it was because they were using a drug that doesn't actually do what it's supposed to do. That may have been the case here too.https://www.aclu.org/news/capital-punishment/oklahoma-plays-torture-roulette-lethal-injection
October 1Oct 1 32 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:Lethal injection is barbaric. Giving them a cigarette and putting a bullet through their head would be more humane.Barbaric is exactly the word I would use. It amazes me there are people (generally republicans) who dont trust the government to get anything right but are perfectly fine with the government deciding who lives and who dies and the manner in which they are killed.
October 1Oct 1 5 hours ago, VanHammersly said:Not sure in this case, but in other cases it was because they were using a drug that doesn't actually do what it's supposed to do. That may have been the case here too.https://www.aclu.org/news/capital-punishment/oklahoma-plays-torture-roulette-lethal-injectionThey should have used vaccines.
October 1Oct 1 2 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:They should have used vaccines.So people OD from fentanyl everyday and supposedly there’s a drug 10x as potent. Hell the drug that Micheal Jackson OD’d on is used in the OR to put patients out. I can’t believe that they can’t put a person out without inflecting pain ? They should have granted her request for firing squad.
October 1Oct 1 8 hours ago, VanHammersly said:Not sure in this case, but in other cases it was because they were using a drug that doesn't actually do what it's supposed to do. That may have been the case here too.https://www.aclu.org/news/capital-punishment/oklahoma-plays-torture-roulette-lethal-injectionFrom what I saw from somewhere, someone was speculating that they missed the vein or had an ablation at the IV site.@DEagle7 would know more about that kinda thing, though.
October 1Oct 1 50 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:So people OD from fentanyl everyday and supposedly there’s a drug 10x as potent. Hell the drug that Micheal Jackson OD’d on is used in the OR to put patients out. I can’t believe that they can’t put a person out without inflecting pain ? They should have granted her request for firing squad.Haha, yeah, these meth heads are like "got something stronger?"Colbert ran a report about this very topic not too long back. If little Rasputina survives this is going to get very interesting.
October 1Oct 1 Author The most interesting would be if this turns into Terri Schiavo and they can’t decide to just turn the equipment off
October 2Oct 2 2 hours ago, Bill said:From what I saw from somewhere, someone was speculating that they missed the vein or had an ablation at the IV site.@DEagle7 would know more about that kinda thing, though.Old school protocol was 3 drugs: a sedative, a muscle paralytic and potassium to stop the heart. Tennessee just uses phenobarbital. To induce a basically a coma and stop every signal from firing and your heart/lungs just stop. The drug itself shouldn't cause pain. Maybe a withdrawal symptoms after would suck. But it is super painful if it extravasates. Basically melts the tissue wherever it comes out. So that is almost definitely what happened if she's reportedly in a ton of pain
October 2Oct 2 12 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:I used to support capital punishment more broadly but now only do for the most extreme and well established cases like KSM for 9/11, who incidentally is up for trial soon.I’m against it period.
October 2Oct 2 Author https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid023Crg7HLTYRW1K8iaRZrRF5odfBaeCoHeBu5vZwRN8XN2QdFRC5ePA3fWm9bVChbMl&id=100064682077436They have her unconscious on a ventilator.
October 2Oct 2 51 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid023Crg7HLTYRW1K8iaRZrRF5odfBaeCoHeBu5vZwRN8XN2QdFRC5ePA3fWm9bVChbMl&id=100064682077436They have her unconscious on a ventilator.Shouldn’t they just let her die? Isn’t that the point?
October 2Oct 2 Author 2 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:Shouldn’t they just let her die? Isn’t that the point?Who is going to make that decision
October 2Oct 2 36 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:Who is going to make that decisionProbably the same people that decided to execute her in the first place
October 2Oct 2 20 hours ago, DEagle7 said:Old school protocol was 3 drugs: a sedative, a muscle paralytic and potassium to stop the heart. Tennessee just uses phenobarbital. To induce a basically a coma and stop every signal from firing and your heart/lungs just stop. The drug itself shouldn't cause pain. Maybe a withdrawal symptoms after would suck. But it is super painful if it extravasates. Basically melts the tissue wherever it comes out. So that is almost definitely what happened if she's reportedly in a ton of painThe first time I read this post I didn't think it was all that funny, but then after I saw Greenskeeper laugh I re-read it. You've still got it, DE. Phenobarbital? Melting tissue? Hilarious.
October 2Oct 2 Author 3 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said:Probably the same people that decided to execute her in the first placeSo a judge, and that will take at least a few hours to go over, meanwhile she is stuck unconscious
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