You made it through. Did you get a D+ achievement badge and free mug at the end?

All joking aside, did you find it odd that by actions, Riri was basically a criminal through all of the series?

on episode 4 of ironheart, and i guess i am a low-key bigot because this show is meh to me.

2 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

You made it through. Did you get a D+ achievement badge and free mug at the end?

All joking aside, did you find it odd that by actions, Riri was basically a criminal through all of the series?

Yes I did. The ending didn’t exactly sit well with me either.

2 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

on episode 4 of ironheart, and i guess i am a low-key bigot because this show is meh to me.

See, I don’t like being told I should like something either, and wanted to hate it because of that. I just didn’t hate it.

4 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

See, I don’t like being told I should like something either, and wanted to hate it because of that. I just didn’t hate it.

yeah, so far it's not bad. i'll see if it gets better, but i don't see myself hating it.

19 hours ago, The_Omega said:

Yes I did. The ending didn’t exactly sit well with me either.

That's the same as some other normie reviews I've seen. It keeps me thinking, who is this show for?

EP 4 was definitely better.

On 7/8/2025 at 10:57 AM, NOTW said:

What fans want (some of which they promised but fumbled or changed direction or delayed):

• Blade TV series/movies with Mahershala Ali. That announcement was exciting, and great casting.

• Captain America shows/movies with Sam/Bucky that are the style of the Winter Soldier movie. Military spy action thriller. Like they just dropped that the POTUS became Red Hulk, the political and security ramifications of that would be chaos. They will move on and forget it ever happened.

• Planet Hulk, old Hulk, something to give Hulk seriousness and anger again, and showcase his power. Alternate universe or changing the current Hulk, whatever.

• Daredevil: Netflix style. Not a drama about Matt Murdock where he's barely DD. That season was forgettable, whereas the Netflix one had re-watch factor.

• Thor as a serious character, or limited comedy/sci-fi. Ragnarok was fun. But after Thanos, he should have remained as he was in the beginning of Endgame: angry, brooding, focused. Then being a badass going back to missions on other planets and being more of a Viking warrior type.

• Live action Miles Morales.

An idea that will never happen:

• Reboot Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. show. People liked Randall Park as Agent Jimmy Woo in WandaVision and thought they should do an X-Files style investigation show. (Should've kept Maria Hill alive to run a new iteration of SHIELD). The WandaVision show had SWORD, whatever. Just a series to do smaller stories in a case of the week stories. That's where you test out introducing new characters to see if audiences like them enough to expand their role into other shows or movies, or at least do the smaller characters justice to put them in live action. That could've been a thread through the new movies, SHIELD helping sort out a post-blip world. What happened to the White Vision in that series? The SHIELD team can be cleaning up the mess after bigger events in the movies.

I would prefer someone younger for Blade. Going with Ali made it seem like they would only be quickly moving onto Blade's daughter

The Planet Hulk animated was great. I don't think MCU is setup for that type of Hulk

Love and Thunder had way too much humor. Thor 1 and Ragnarok were great IMO

I'm hoping they don't give up on Peter

7 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I would prefer someone younger for Blade. Going with Ali made it seem like they would only be quickly moving onto Blade's daughter

The Planet Hulk animated was great. I don't think MCU is setup for that type of Hulk

Love and Thunder had way too much humor. Thor 1 and Ragnarok were great IMO

I'm hoping they don't give up on Peter

I see your point, but I really like Ali as an actor and think he is great for the part. But going with a young unknown does allow more growth for the franchise, depending on what they want to do.

The multiverse has given us different versions of characters already, so an alternate Hulk is doable. The Logan movie gave the Wolverine character a fresh direction and take. The same could be done for Hulk. Even in the current Professor Hulk state, having him with the Red Hulk and Sterns would have made more sense. Not only because those characters were from the prior Hulk movies, but also a chance for the new Bruce to face another version of himself but with different knowledge in how to approach it. Instead of a brutal battle like with Abomination, he can balance strength and anger with his intelligence and restraint. He should have been the one to bring out the emotion about his daughter Betty. But whatever.

They're making another Spider-Man movie with Peter Parker so no worries there. I saw rumors that The Punisher will be in it, no idea if that's just fans making things up or not though (likely). I can see them waiting on Miles Morales because the cartoon Spiderverse movies aren't done yet, one more to go. They could do a passing of the torch later on with Peter to Miles.

6 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I see your point, but I really like Ali as an actor and think he is great for the part. But going with a young unknown does allow more growth for the franchise, depending on what they want to do.

The multiverse has given us different versions of characters already, so an alternate Hulk is doable. The Logan movie gave the Wolverine character a fresh direction and take. The same could be done for Hulk. Even in the current Professor Hulk state, having him with the Red Hulk and Sterns would have made more sense. Not only because those characters were from the prior Hulk movies, but also a chance for the new Bruce to face another version of himself but with different knowledge in how to approach it. Instead of a brutal battle like with Abomination, he can balance strength and anger with his intelligence and restraint. He should have been the one to bring out the emotion about his daughter Betty. But whatever.

They're making another Spider-Man movie with Peter Parker so no worries there. I saw rumors that The Punisher will be in it, no idea if that's just fans making things up or not though (likely). I can see them waiting on Miles Morales because the cartoon Spiderverse movies aren't done yet, one more to go. They could do a passing of the torch later on with Peter to Miles.

Logan wasn't in the MCU when it was made though. They only added it in later. So I don't think you can add that as an example of the MCU giving us different versions of characters already

The last phase with 4 movies has a Peter Parker one but I was hoping for more. I'm expecting after this they'll move onto Miles for the new round of Marvel characters (even though Peter is so young still)

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Logan wasn't in the MCU when it was made though. They only added it in later. So I don't think you can add that as an example of the MCU giving us different versions of characters already.

yeah, deadpool pulled logan into the MCU. in grand fashion too.

Would Marvel have done that if Logan wasn't made and a huge success already?

On 7/9/2025 at 10:26 PM, UK Eagle said:

Some thoughts:

• An upcoming film, not in the Disney MCU, contains a version of a character that should be liked, and is a step change from what Marvel has made the character. Will come down to the execution of said films, but they tend to make big money.

• How Marvel cannot make a Blade film is beyond me, A simple premise, easily executed with an actor like Ali actively wanting in. It should be a money printing machine for Marvel because so many people want Blade.

• There is talk about redoing Jessica Jones in some format - so perhaps redo the Defenders.

• They could look to do GoTG space type program. Especially with them adding in Galactus and female Silver Surfer, feels like an independent brand off for a series looking at worlds and societies destroyed by him.

• Let alone the Xmen which should be another money making machine, such is the popularity of the comics.

Ergo, they will nothing of the above and do more multiverse stuff.

Do they though? It's already been done and it had a far darker, bloodier vibe than anything Marvel will produce. With all the other content they have available this is just a weird one to try and bring back as a stand alone film that is now in production purgatory

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Logan wasn't in the MCU when it was made though. They only added it in later. So I don't think you can add that as an example of the MCU giving us different versions of characters already

The last phase with 4 movies has a Peter Parker one but I was hoping for more. I'm expecting after this they'll move onto Miles for the new round of Marvel characters (even though Peter is so young still)

I cited Logan because it was a grittier character driven take like an indie movie at times, that a potential Hulk movie could do. It was about the tone and style of the filmmaking.

Of course, they've had a lot of content that used an alt versions of characters. The "multiverse saga" was the thing after Endgame. Deadpool and Wolverine, Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness, Spider-man No Way Home, Kang has had different versions in Ant-Man and Loki, What If cartoon, GOTG3 had different version of Gamora due to timeline from Endgame. There's a new Fantastic Four coming out that is a different universe. They've already announced RDJ as Doctor Doom and announced cast for Avengers Doomsday that includes some of these alternate versions of characters, and you know with Secret Wars coming there will be more variants.

29 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Would Marvel have done that if Logan wasn't made and a huge success already?

"Marvel" already had their name on the content made by Sony and 20th Century Fox. Kevin Feige was a producer on those movies. Wolverine was already a favorite X-Men character in comics and cartoons and all the 20th Century Fox movies before the Logan movie. Once Feige started his own Marvel Studios it was only a matter of time to get the rights back for those characters and have crossover movies. Which they proved in the MCU having a lot of characters appear in each other's movies and in Avengers team ups.

Even so, Deadpool & Wolverine was mostly main characters from 20th Century Fox. Marvel/Kevin Feige could have produced along with 20th Century Fox a Deadpool 3 that included Wolverine. The only MCU characters in this movie were cameos from Happy and the TVA timecop woman.

If Marvel would have created their own studio years ago, they would have been the ones making X-Men, Spider-man, Hulk, etc. and would have done crossovers eventually anyway.

38 minutes ago, Mat said:

Do they though? It's already been done and it had a far darker, bloodier vibe than anything Marvel will produce. With all the other content they have available this is just a weird one to try and bring back as a stand alone film that is now in production purgatory

I thought it was originally announced as a TV show.

Ref a characters alter ego referenced earlier, the next Spiderman film has, for those interested in being spoiled a little bit.

Spoiler

Savage Hulk as the prime protagonist with the Punisher featuring. Quite how they are going to make Mark Ruffalo look savage is beyond me, but will be good to see Hulk not be a wuss anymore. The recent MCU has depowered a strong character and I don't get why.

Some early positive, non-spoiler reviews about Fantastic Four

Messing with the timelines and whether a character is dead or not because of multiverse was likely when it started to crumble

To be fair, the comic books had various iterations and versions of the same characters, alternate universes and all that stuff. In live action, they've already done various versions of Batman, Spider-Man, Superman, Hulk, X-Men had the First Class younger versions, and now the 3rd version of Fantastic Four.

The future of comic book movies/shows will likely include new characters they haven't done in live action before, more characters showing up in other characters stories or team ups, and recasting previous characters with new actors and doing some different comic book storylines.

They do need to watch out for doing too much content and let some of these products breathe.

It's funny that a younger version of Feige said that reboots/resets/reimaginings of any series/universe would be a sign of failure. I am glad they are doing it and hopefully doing less, but to a better standard will get the MCU back to what it was. Recasting is great too - both for the series and the budget.

Just don't mess it up (and I don't trust them to not mess up).

Interestingly, Marvel met with the VFX team who did a Gareth Edwards movie to understand how they did their CGI for a lot lower price than Marvel can do.

The thing, is with Reed Richards, this anatomically possible being stretchy.

Yeah, I got you thinking about that, and that too