June 23, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: I think you should be concerned with the helioLIE model, like how is it we have all of the spinning, orbiting, and zooming all over the so-called universe and see the exact same unchanged stars and constellations? Just in case you haven't figured it out, let me be the first to tell you, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!! In addition, why can’t Orion be seen all year long?? Why does the position of the Big Dipper change by 90 degrees every 3 months??
June 23, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, EagleVA said: I think you should be concerned with the helioLIE model, like how is it we have all of the spinning, orbiting, and zooming all over the so-called universe and see the exact same unchanged stars and constellations? Just in case you haven't figured it out, let me be the first to tell you, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!! Three things: 1. Don't change the subject. Produce your working FE model that explains all of our observations. Can't? That's because there isn't a working FE model that explains all of our observations. There is however an excellent working RE model that explains all of our observations perfectly. 2. The stars and constellations are moving. The problem is that you don't perceive the motion with the naked eye because of the vast distances involved. It's called scale. You should be concerned with learning about that. Think about it. If 1 light year is about 5.88 trillion miles, how long would it take to detect something moved that was going 588 thousand miles per hour at a distance of 58.8 light years? Do a little math and you'll start to understand why they don't seem to change relative to each other in our lifetime. As for movement you can detect. Assuming you have 36 years left to live, and can accurately measure direction in degrees, you can start measuring the precise direction of a star of your choosing in the northern sky just before dawn on the spring equinox. Then, do the same on every spring equinox, for 36 years. I predict you will find that the entire field of background stars has rotated about 1/2 a degree to the West. That's precession of the Earths rotational axis, or as it's commonly referred to, the precession of the equinoxes. If you have instruments that can measure changes in arcseconds, then you can see the change of approximately 50.3 arcseconds in a single year! Whoo Hoo!! See, with a precise instrument, you can prove that motion in just 12 months. Want to back up your findings? Do it for a second year and you'll detect an additional westward rotation of, you guessed it, 50.3 arcseconds. You'll be well on your way to debunking the whole FE theory!! Isn't that exciting? You're the best!!
June 23, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: Three things: 1. Don't change the subject. Produce your working FE model that explains all of our observations. Can't? That's because there isn't a working FE model that explains all of our observations. There is however an excellent working RE model that explains all of our observations perfectly. 2. The stars and constellations are moving. The problem is that you don't perceive the motion with the naked eye because of the vast distances involved. It's called scale. You should be concerned with learning about that. Think about it. If 1 light year is about 5.88 trillion miles, how long would it take to detect something moved that was going 588 thousand miles per hour at a distance of 58.8 light years? Do a little math and you'll start to understand why they don't seem to change relative to each other in our lifetime. As for movement you can detect. Assuming you have 36 years left to live, and can accurately measure direction in degrees, you can start measuring the precise direction of a star of your choosing in the northern sky just before dawn on the spring equinox. Then, do the same on every spring equinox, for 36 years. I predict you will find that the entire field of background stars has rotated about 1/2 a degree to the West. That's precession of the Earths rotational axis, or as it's commonly referred to, the precession of the equinoxes. If you have instruments that can measure changes in arcseconds, then you can see the change of approximately 50.3 arcseconds in a single year! Whoo Hoo!! See, with a precise instrument, you can prove that motion in just 12 months. Want to back up your findings? Do it for a second year and you'll detect an additional westward rotation of, you guessed it, 50.3 arcseconds. You'll be well on your way to debunking the whole FE theory!! Isn't that exciting? You're the best!!
June 23, 20214 yr EagleVa: YouTube censors the truth about Flat Earth! Also EagleVA: Here are some YouTube videos that tell the truth about Flat Earth.
June 23, 20214 yr Author 23 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: 2. The stars and constellations are moving. The problem is that you don't perceive the motion with the naked eye because of the vast distances involved. Right, trillions and trillions of miles away......but yet we can see them. You guys are so, so foolish.
June 23, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Right, trillions and trillions of miles away......but yet we can see them. You guys are so, so foolish. Again, scale. Deal with it.
June 23, 20214 yr 36 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: 1. Don't change the subject. That is his go to move. When he has no answer, he goes off on another tangent.
June 23, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, downundermike said: That is his go to move. When he has no answer, he goes off on another tangent. Do your research.
June 23, 20214 yr Author 17 minutes ago, NOTW said: EagleVa: YouTube censors the truth about Flat Earth! Also EagleVA: Here are some YouTube videos that tell the truth about Flat Earth. So YouTube determines what's true? Concerning FE, YouTube censors your ability to make an informed decision, they only let you hear the dogma that you were presented when you were a child. You're an adult now hopefully with critical thinking skills. If you have critical thinking skills, see if what you were presented as a child is true, don't let YouTube make the decision for you.
June 23, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleVA said: Concerning FE, YouTube censors your ability to make an informed decision I don't need youtube to make an informed decision. I live on a globe, and see it every day.
June 23, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said: In addition, why can’t Orion be seen all year long?? Why does the position of the Big Dipper change by 90 degrees every 3 months?? There's another magical force you don't understand. The Earth revolves. As it does, the positions of constellations in the north or south hemispheres change. The angle also changes with the latitude of your position on the globe. You can verify all of this mathematically, should you choose.
June 23, 20214 yr Author 14 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: Again, scale. Deal with it. We can perceive the stars and constellations moving with timelaspe photography, and what we see are the same stars and constellations every night since the begining of time. I really don't need to be wasting my time with those that can't figure out that seeing same night sky wouldn't be possible with the helioLIE, all I can say is enjoy your spinning, orbiting, twisting, jumping jack doing ball.
June 23, 20214 yr Just now, EagleVA said: We can perceive the stars and constellations moving with timelaspe photography, and what we see are the same stars and constellations every night since the begining of time. I really don't need to be wasting my time with those that can't figure out that seeing same night sky wouldn't be possible with the helioLIE, all I can say is enjoy your spinning, orbiting, twisting, jumping jack doing ball. Why do people in the northern hemisphere see completely different constellations than the southern hemisphere?
June 23, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, EagleVA said: I really don't need to be wasting my time with those that can't figure out that seeing same night sky wouldn't be possible with the helioLIE, Problem is you don't see the same night sky, it changes.
June 23, 20214 yr 15 minutes ago, EagleVA said: So YouTube determines what's true? Concerning FE, YouTube censors your ability to make an informed decision, they only let you hear the dogma that you were presented when you were a child. You're an adult now hopefully with critical thinking skills. If you have critical thinking skills, see if what you were presented as a child is true, don't let YouTube make the decision for you. None of that has anything to do with your contradiction that YouTube censors the truth yet you get your info from YouTube.
June 23, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, NOTW said: None of that has anything to do with your contradiction that YouTube censors the truth yet you get your info from YouTube. One must not expect consistency from people with sort of brain disorder.
June 23, 20214 yr Author 9 minutes ago, NOTW said: None of that has anything to do with your contradiction that YouTube censors the truth yet you get your info from YouTube. No contradictions here, I no longer go to YouTube for FE information since they began removing that info. If you want to hold onto what you were taught as a child then enjoy your spinning, orbiting, twisting, jumping jack doing ball.
June 23, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, EagleVA said: No contradictions here, I no longer go to YouTube for FE information since they began removing that info. If you want to hold onto what you were taught as a child then enjoy your spinning, orbiting, twisting, jumping jack doing ball. Jumping Jack Doing Ball band name, I claimed it!
June 23, 20214 yr 28 minutes ago, EagleVA said: If you want to hold onto what you were taught as a child then enjoy your spinning, orbiting, twisting, jumping jack doing ball. The irony of this response, is he resorts to child like deflections because he has no real argument.
June 23, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: Right, trillions and trillions of miles away......but yet we can see them. You guys are so, so foolish. Light travels dipsheet.
June 23, 20214 yr 47 minutes ago, paco said: Why do people in the northern hemisphere see completely different constellations than the southern hemisphere? Other than @Seamus McPiPi, my favorite part of this thread is your constant peppering EagleVa with intelligent questions that he can't answer, thus ignoring them, all over the span of multiple years. 🤣 I have never seen him answer 1 question you've sent him.
June 23, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: So YouTube determines what's true? Concerning FE, YouTube censors your ability to make an informed decision, they only let you hear the dogma that you were presented when you were a child. You're an adult now hopefully with critical thinking skills. If you have critical thinking skills, see if what you were presented as a child is true, don't let YouTube make the decision for you.
June 23, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, hputenis said: I have never seen him answer 1 question you've sent him. He never does, and if you push him he hides behind the ignore feature. The fact that he has to post videos, and not put his own thoughts down to answer a question proves he is a fraud and a troll.
June 23, 20214 yr I wonder what EagleVA will say when we go to the moon 12 years in a row, and you can pull out a telescope and see them on the moon.
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