He played a bad passing game and we put up 33 points on one of the best Defenses in the league.

That's why you build through the trenches, our O-Line ate their lunch today.

4 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

He played a bad passing game and we put up 33 points on one of the best Defenses in the league.

That's why you build through the trenches, our O-Line ate their lunch today.

I think his passing game was not bad, but up and down. There have been some really good passes on Goedert and Smith early on that paved the way. Especially the third down conversions..

21 hours ago, Swoop said:

"If you subtract all of the QBs who disprove my argument, you'll see I'm right"

Solid foundation.

How many wins did the Eagles have last year with your argument quarterback? 

11 minutes ago, Infam said:

I think his passing game was not bad, but up and down. There have been some really good passes on Goedert and Smith early on that paved the way. Especially the third down conversions..

Couple of key second half drops killed drives. 

Had some really nice runs. Still panics though. When he stays in the pocket and trusts the Oline he does well

Didn't like how he tried breaking tackles. We need him healthy

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

How many wins did the Eagles have last year with your argument quarterback? 

What?

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

What?

We need that great passer right? How many wins did that get us last year? 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

We need that great passer right? How many wins did that get us last year? 

Maybe read what we're actually talking about, sport.

14 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

How many wins did the Eagles have last year with your argument quarterback? 

Couple of key second half drops killed drives. 

Yup. Those two drops by Goedert really sent momentum in the opposite direction. Second one was definitely a harder catch but it's one he can make.

Some of it was also their DBs making really good plays that game in general.

Lol at Hurts had a bad game passing the ball. He threw zero interceptions. He didn't take many sacks, and didn't fumble when he was hit. He made some really good throws, he missed a few. If you want to judge him versus Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers sure he had a bad game throwing the ball. If you want to judge him versus all NFL starting QB's he had an average passing day. Not to mention all of the Hurts hater love to just decide that what he does as a runner doesn't matter even though it has a huge impact on the game. 70 yards and three rushing TD's, but let's dog him because he missed a few throws. It's almost like some Eagles fans don't want the kid to be successful. 

13 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Lol at Hurts had a bad game passing the ball. He threw zero interceptions. He didn't take many sacks, and didn't fumble when he was hit. He made some really good throws, he missed a few. If you want to judge him versus Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers sure he had a bad game throwing the ball. If you want to judge him versus all NFL starting QB's he had an average passing day. Not to mention all of the Hurts hater love to just decide that what he does as a runner doesn't matter even though it has a huge impact on the game. 70 yards and three rushing TD's, but let's dog him because he missed a few throws. It's almost like some Eagles fans don't want the kid to be successful. 

They don’t. 

Getting it done with his legs. But eventually he's going to have to improve his passing. That running QB stuff doesn't work forever. 

Mialata and Dickerson need to improve as pass blockers. Do we NEED to say every time they have a dominating block, should we say, but they NEED to block better in passing? Slay needed to make more big plays. So now that he’s making big plays do we NEED to keep saying, but he has to make big plays? Nope so that hate on Hurts right now is stupid. 

Hmmm. So far every quarterback, but one who threw over 30 times this week lost. Two of those guys went head to head though. 

7 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Hmmm. So far every quarterback, but one who threw over 30 times this week lost. Two of those guys went head to head though. 

Wrong.

32 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Wrong.

My bad. 3-6 with 30 plus passers. I missed two. Feel better? 

It’s definitely different from what I would expect but I’m curious where Jalen takes this. It shouldn’t be sustainable but he does also show flashes of improved passing. We won’t know until a team inevitably shuts down the running game.

Then we’ll all know. 
 

In any event, seems pretty clear that nobody is taking that kid off the field, for better or for worse. He was electric today.

3 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

My bad. 3-6 with 30 plus passers. I missed two. Feel better? 

By the time these games end, more that have won than have lost will have that many. I'm throwing Baker and Burrow in as well, because they threw 29 passes each. Unless you're that adamant on the 1 pass.

Either way you'd still be wrong.

Just now, Swoop said:

By the time these games end, more that have won than have lost will have that many. I'm throwing Baker and Burrow in as well, because they threw 29 passes each. Unless you're that adamant on the 1 pass.

Either way you'd still be wrong.

Well the number is 40 you keep whining about. Just pointing teams that throw that much generally don’t win. At this point the ChiefxCowboys is a split. McCoy add to your number. They’re 4-6. You’re fabricating numbers.

The only thing I'd agree with the naysayers on, is that I'd like to see Hurts run less. The main reason being is he's a QB, and the less opportunities for him to be hit the better. Anyway, great win today

21 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Well the number is 40 you keep whining about. Just pointing teams that throw that much generally don’t win. At this point the ChiefxCowboys is a split. McCoy add to your number. They’re 4-6. You’re fabricating numbers.

I wasn't fabricating. I was saying that in all of the games played, the majority of the winners of all games threw 30 times. 

Lamar, Burrow, Baker, McCoy, Tua, Cousins, Mahomes. There's 7. There have been 13 games.

You said only one QB has done it and I'm fabricating numbers 😂😂😂

13 minutes ago, Thrive said:

It’s definitely different from what I would expect but I’m curious where Jalen takes this. It shouldn’t be sustainable but he does also show flashes of improved passing. We won’t know until a team inevitably shuts down the running game.

Then we’ll all know. 
 

In any event, seems pretty clear that nobody is taking that kid off the field, for better or for worse. He was electric today.

Not many qbs besides brady & rogers can show success with a shutdown run game.. 

Id love to see more quick passes and slants. I swear we never do them.

1 minute ago, MF POON said:

The only thing I'd agree with the naysayers on, is that I'd like to see Hurts run less. The main reason being is he's a QB, and the less opportunities for him to be hit the better. Anyway, great win today

At this stage of his development, he needs to run to be effective. His ability to create with his legs and the threat of it on any given play is what makes him special and separates him from say the bottom third QBs in the league (generally the guys we have been playing in recent weeks and will continue to do so the rest of the way given the schedule). That last ankle breaking TD run was just sick. The entire offence is based around Hurts running - and this includes many of our run play designs. Hurts makes the rushing attack far more successful than it would be without it. Reminds me of Vick in the Chip system - just opens up running lanes.

I am not sure his passing game is at level that is developed up enough yet for him to be able to dial down the run and still be effective. The first half last week was the best he has looked as a passer but its not consistent enough yet. We didn't need to pass much today so don't want too read too much into it but he missed a couple of key throws - reading the defence, ball placement, repetitive accuracy and decision making are still areas for him to work on.

I am pretty confident that Hurts can consistently beat teams with average/bad QBs. Where I don't think he is at yes is being able to match up with a high powered passing attack in a shoot-out. But the guy is young and improving. Lets see - we all had similar doubts about Lamar and Josh Allen at one point, and those guys managed to make quantum leaps with their passing games now vs when they entered the league. 

20 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Lamar, Burrow, Baker, McCoy, Tua, Cousins, Mahomes. There's 7. There have been 13 games.

I don't disagree with the general points that we need to keep seeing development in Hurts as a passer or whether 29 vs 30 makes a difference.

But this is one example where stats correlation has nothing to do with causation. Giving Baker any credit for the win today is just lol. He was damn near the only reason the Lions with Tim F'n Boyle with his magical 77 yards of passing were nearly able to pull off the upset. The Browns won by leaning on Chubb

1 minute ago, kiwieagle said:

I don't disagree with the general points that we need to keep seeing development in Hurts as a passer or whether 29 vs 30 makes a difference.

But this is one example where stats correlation has nothing to do with causation. Giving Baker any credit for the win today is just lol. He was damn near the only reason the Lions with Tim F'n Boyle with his magical 77 yards of passing were nearly able to pull off the upset. The Browns won by leaning on Chubb

I agree, but people are hell bent on convincing people that it's better to not have a great QB and that throwing the ball loses football games.