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45 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Speaking of Santa, I heard you asked for those as your "stocking stuffers."

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11 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

 

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This team could make some noise if it makes the play offs. Not because this is a particularly great team but I'm not sure there is a runaway bunch right now...

Sure GB would likely handle us, sure there are better teams than us in the NFL but I don't think there is any team to fear?

15 hours ago, Random Reglar said:

So,  Howard is what,  a Fullback now?  And Sanders is the Running Back?

Or is Howard the Running Back, and Sanders is a Slot Receiver,  going in motion?

Perhaps the Eagles could run the wishbone, and have 3 running backs back there,  plus Hurts,  and the Eagles could run 64 times,   each of the running backs getting 16 runs, and Hurts getting 16 runs.

The easiest way to get one running back to get more carries than Hurts is to keep that running back on the field for as many snaps as Hurts gets. 

Sanders had 16 attempts, Howard had 10, and Scott had 6.  It's not rocket science, you don't have to run more times to have the RBs get more touches (which is what I believe you're foolishly trying to say). take some of Hurts' 16 carries and give those to the other 2-3 RBs.  

 

2 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Sanders had 16 attempts, Howard had 10, and Scott had 6.  It's not rocket science, you don't have to run more times to have the RBs get more touches (which is what I believe you're foolishly trying to say). take some of Hurts' 16 carries and give those to the other 2-3 RBs.  

Hurts needs to keep running it, or it doesn‘t work anymore.

Yes our line is amazing. But don‘t underestimate what Hurts is doing to teams.

1 minute ago, Infam said:

Hurts needs to keep running it, or it doesn‘t work anymore.

Yes our line is amazing. But don‘t underestimate what Hurts is doing to teams.

No it doesn't - our line being "amazing" is what makes the run game work.   If anything, the threat of Hurts running affects the passing game, because teams will have to account for Hurts getting yards with his legs. 

And again, I'm not saying he shouldn't run, but he should not be leading the team in rushing attempts consistently when you have RB's like Howard and Sanders. 

Lamar Jackson

  • 4,120 yards total offense

  • 26 touchdowns

  • 12 turnovers

  • 213 first downs

Jalen Hurts

  • 4,115 yards total offense

  • 29 touchdowns

  • 11 turnovers

  • 209 first downs

 

*Lamar started 3 more games than Hurts as a Rookie.

39 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Lamar Jackson

  • 4,120 yards total offense

  • 26 touchdowns

  • 12 turnovers

  • 213 first downs

Jalen Hurts

  • 4,115 yards total offense

  • 29 touchdowns

  • 11 turnovers

  • 209 first downs

 

*Lamar started 3 more games than Hurts as a Rookie.

Jackson 9-6 record

Hurts 6-9 record

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Jackson 9-6 record

Hurts 6-9 record

That's not that bad a disparity considering our bereft of talent Defense and a rookie HC/DC.

Lamar is clearly better, no doubt about it, but impressed with Jalen nonetheless.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Jackson 9-6 record

Hurts 6-9 record

Jackson: 10+ year head coach with a super bowl ring

Hurts: Rookie head coach

16 hours ago, Swimm said:

Jalen Hurts isn't the answer. He's a decent placeholder until we get our QB. But we seen these QBs before.  They win you some you games. Maybe a  playoff here or there. But ultimately they  are never good enough. Unless  you have an Elite level defense. 

Wrong, right now Jalen Hurts is the answer. Defense and offense are improving every game. THIS IS A REBUILDING YEAR. You are not supposed to win many games during a rebuilding years in the NFL and the Eagles are winning games.

3 hours ago, MF POON said:

No it doesn't - our line being "amazing" is what makes the run game work.   If anything, the threat of Hurts running affects the passing game, because teams will have to account for Hurts getting yards with his legs. 

And again, I'm not saying he shouldn't run, but he should not be leading the team in rushing attempts consistently when you have RB's like Howard and Sanders. 

You mean like Lamar Jackson? 

1 hour ago, D-Shiznit said:

Lamar Jackson

  • 4,120 yards total offense

  • 26 touchdowns

  • 12 turnovers

  • 213 first downs

Jalen Hurts

  • 4,115 yards total offense

  • 29 touchdowns

  • 11 turnovers

  • 209 first downs

 

*Lamar started 3 more games than Hurts as a Rookie.

Why was this even brought up for discussion?

2 hours ago, Paul1439 said:

You mean like Lamar Jackson? 

I don't watch Ravens games, or pay attn to them, so I don't know what Lamar does

Here's a recent qb ranking list that has Hurts at 17.

NFL Week 12 QB Power Rankings: Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert on the rise as Josh Allen, Derek Carr slide - CBSSports.com

Mac Jones is at 16. Jones has 14 TDs, 10 turnovers and 2,600 total yards. Hurts has 2,900 total yards, 21 TDs and 6 turnovers. Tannehill is at 15, and he has 2,800 total yards, 18 TDs and 15 turnovers. Carr is at 14, and has 3,100 total yards, 16 TDs and 11 turnovers (in 10 games.) Our old friend Carson Wentz is at 13. He has 2,600 total yards, 19 TDs and 6 turnovers.

Obviously stats aren't a perfect way to judge qb play. But I think Hurts has a better argument to be ranked higher than his critics have to rank him lower. Ryan is at 18, and he has 2,450 yards with 16 TDs and 12 turnovers. The others behind him - Mayfield, Garoppolo, Bridgewater - have certainly not done anything to be ranked ahead of him.

 

On 11/23/2021 at 8:23 PM, Swimm said:

Jalen Hurts isn't the answer. He's a decent placeholder until we get our QB. But we seen these QBs before.  They win you some you games. Maybe a  playoff here or there. But ultimately they  are never good enough. Unless  you have an Elite level defense. 

Get an Elite level defense.   The Eagles have 3 first round picks, and money left over.

And, of course,  Tom Brady wins most of the Super Bowls,  more than half over the last 4 years.

Perhaps the Eagles should just fold?

Perhaps the best plan is to get a worse QB,  and look forward to drafting in the top 10 every year?

Russell Wilson,  who ran for 849 yards the 2nd year the Seahawks went to the Super Bowl,  has won the Super Bowl.   And there really aren't that many running QBs.  That one,  Wilson,  won a Super Bowl.

Hurts is doing better than most first round QBs drafted in the last 4 years. 

All is good with Hurts.  
 

16 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Here's a recent qb ranking list that has Hurts at 17.

NFL Week 12 QB Power Rankings: Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert on the rise as Josh Allen, Derek Carr slide - CBSSports.com

Mac Jones is at 16. Jones has 14 TDs, 10 turnovers and 2,600 total yards. Hurts has 2,900 total yards, 21 TDs and 6 turnovers. Tannehill is at 15, and he has 2,800 total yards, 18 TDs and 15 turnovers. Carr is at 14, and has 3,100 total yards, 16 TDs and 11 turnovers (in 10 games.) Our old friend Carson Wentz is at 13. He has 2,600 total yards, 19 TDs and 6 turnovers.

Obviously stats aren't a perfect way to judge qb play. But I have a hard time thinking Hurts has a better argument to be ranked higher than his critics have to rank him lower. Ryan is at 18, and he has 2,450 yards with 16 TDs and 12 turnovers. The others behind him - Mayfield, Garoppolo, Bridgewater - have certainly not done anything to be ranked ahead of him.

 

The Eagles are 8 in points per game, so,  8.

I don't see any reason to replace actual points scored by some ranking system.

Hurts brings great running,   a QB that brings great running makes the overall running game much better, and that's what you're looking at right now.

On 11/24/2021 at 12:51 PM, Paul1439 said:

Why was this even brought up for discussion?

Well, Jalen Hurts was being compared to the best QB to compare him to.

It makes sense to compare them.

On 11/24/2021 at 11:51 AM, downundermike said:

Jackson 9-6 record

Hurts 6-9 record

where are you getting Jackson 9-6 record from?

Rookie year -  6-1
2nd year - 13-2  -  MVP

19-3 in his first 22 starts.

Lamar Jackson is a better runner than Jalen Hurts,  but it looks like Jalen Hurts is #2.

One difference between Jackson and Hurts is that Jackson actually ran more often than Hurts does.

Jackson's first start,  he ran 26 times, in a Ravens win.

Hurts had a higher passer rating in college than Jackson did,  by a pretty substantial margin. 

On 11/24/2021 at 11:51 AM, downundermike said:

Jackson 9-6 record

Hurts 6-9 record

Wentz 7-9

Hurts 6-9

Hmmmmmm…….

13 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wentz 7-9

Hurts 6-9

Hmmmmmm…….

Make sure you wash up before you kiss hurts beanbag!!IMG_20211126_074034.thumb.jpg.79b922aeb0a31c35befd7f8d0671a970.jpg

4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Make sure you wash up before you kiss hurts beanbag!!IMG_20211126_074034.thumb.jpg.79b922aeb0a31c35befd7f8d0671a970.jpg

I’m on that Eagles beanbag bro. I’m trying to see these playoffs. 

33 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I’m on that Eagles beanbag bro. I’m trying to see these playoffs. 

Someone sent that to me this morning cause my one friend is going to a " Queen" tribute show so we are teasing him about it. I was like oh this is perfect for my TATE friends lol

3 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Someone sent that to me this morning cause my one friend is going to a " Queen" tribute show so we are teasing him about it. I was like oh this is perfect for my TATE friends lol

Call me a Hurts bagger all you like. If he takes us to the playoffs in his first season as a starter I’m on the bus or bags or whatever. 😂🤣😂

10 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Call me a Hurts bagger all you like. If he takes us to the playoffs in his first season as a starter I’m on the bus or bags or whatever. 😂🤣😂

I'm just going with the theme man. I know you aren't a real bagger. You guys aren't any fun