17 hours ago, EagleVA said:

You said my post was a very pro-Hurts post and it really wasn't, I mean it's not like I'm a fan of his or anything, as a matter of fact I couldn't tolerate watching him at 'Bama.

It was a pro-bench Wentz post, that's not to say I'm an anti-Wentz guy because I'm not, dude just needs to work on some things just as everyone else on the offensive side of the ball.

Yup, you have to bench Wentz at this point.  But the most likely outcome is that Hurts isn't going to fare much better and that will in some part vindicate Wentz.

On 12/8/2020 at 8:38 PM, DBW said:

So the one thing that bugs me about what doug said today during his press meeting with Dave Spadero, is how he says "it’s not about one guy” and "there’s plenty of it (blame) to go around” and "it’s about the team” ok so if it’s not about one guy and it truly is about the team, then why the F has peters been in this lineup over a handful of other guys that could be better and help the team be better??  That was such as BS line and it’s clear that he’s trying to protect wentz but it’s also very telling that it MUST be about one guy and that guy is wentz.  Because if you’re truly trying to make the TEAM better, mialata would have been starting week 1, alshon wouldn’t be dressing and seeing the fold over fulgham, maybe whiteside would get some coaching to help him be better, on defense jalen mills wouldn’t be here, Douglas and jones would be here, Nate Gerry wouldn’t see the field over TJ Edwards, oh and you would run the Fing football more than 9 times a game to help the TEAM move the ball down the field. 

I think people need to get over Fulgham as much more than a role player who had an improbable run.

On 12/6/2020 at 8:35 PM, xxeaglesfanxx said:

Made a few throws but overall not very impressive. But no surprise there. No way they can get Trevor Lawrence. He’s going to the Jets.

At this point any NFL level qb, even a backup, will be better than shell shocked Wentz.  So yeah go with Hurts and at least guys that need to develop like Reagor and Mailata get some decent reps in.

13 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

I think people need to get over Fulgham as much more than a role player who had an improbable run.

I’m not saying he’s a pro bowler but given opportunity is a faster, healthier, more productive option that AJ.  
 

and when asked why he’s getting more snaps than fulgham, doug literally doesn’t have an answer.  It’s not like he can say, Alshon is a stud WR and we need our top horses out there.  The simple answer is he has to play him because of the money they’re paying him but doug can’t honestly think that Alshon has any impact on the game and is truly a better option than travis right now.  It’s the same mentality that drives them to stick a broken down peters in the lineup over a healthier, younger, faster, stronger mailata.  The point is if it’s truly about the teaM and not one guy, there are several players that shouldn’t be on the field because they are a detriment to the teams success for a variety of reasons.

 

 

11 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

So yeah go with Hurts and at least guys that need to develop like Reagor and Mailata get some decent reps in.

We need so see what we have in Reagor, is he a goto guy or not.

He disappointed in three tests, 40-yard dash, 20-yard shuttle, and the three-cone drill. 

"As far as the other tests, Reagor had a disappointing times in the three-cone drill (7.31 seconds) and 20-yard shuttle (4.46 seconds). For comparison, Baylor’s Denzel Mims had the best time among WRs in the three-cone at 6.66 seconds and Oregon State’s Isaiah Hodgins had the best 20-yard shuttle (4.12 seconds)." 

2 hours ago, EagleVA said:

We need so see what we have in Reagor, is he a goto guy or not.

He disappointed in three tests, 40-yard dash, 20-yard shuttle, and the three-cone drill. 

"As far as the other tests, Reagor had a disappointing times in the three-cone drill (7.31 seconds) and 20-yard shuttle (4.46 seconds). For comparison, Baylor’s Denzel Mims had the best time among WRs in the three-cone at 6.66 seconds and Oregon State’s Isaiah Hodgins had the best 20-yard shuttle (4.12 seconds)." 

 

4 hours ago, dawkins4prez said:

Yup, you have to bench Wentz at this point.  But the most likely outcome is that Hurts isn't going to fare much better and that will in some part vindicate Wentz.

Yeah I don’t see how a rookie struggling in these games would justify how bad Wentz a four year veteran has looked. To be honest Hurts can still struggle and look better than Wentz. Hurts can get sacked and not fumble. He can hit receivers right in the numbers (something Wentz rarely does) and they still drop the pass. He could cut down on bad interceptions. He could not try the force the ball into double and triple coverage. He could run when the pressure gets there and not take bad sacks. He could slide or get out of bounds when defenders are near him preventing him from taking unnecessary hits. He could throw the ball away when it’s not there. These are all things Hurts could do and still struggle to win games yet show he’s a better option than Carson right now. 

11 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Yeah I don’t see how a rookie struggling in these games would justify how bad Wentz a four year veteran has looked. To be honest Hurts can still struggle and look better than Wentz. Hurts can get sacked and not fumble. He can hit receivers right in the numbers (something Wentz rarely does) and they still drop the pass. He could cut down on bad interceptions. He could not try the force the ball into double and triple coverage. He could run when the pressure gets there and not take bad sacks. He could slide or get out of bounds when defenders are near him preventing him from taking unnecessary hits. He could throw the ball away when it’s not there. These are all things Hurts could do and still struggle to win games yet show he’s a better option than Carson right now. 

He could.  Or he could fall victim to an offense where something different goes wrong on every play just like Wentz did.

11 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

He could.  Or he could fall victim to an offense where something different goes wrong on every play just like Wentz did.

But a Wentz didn’t just fall victim on every play. He contributed his own share of woes too. 

28 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

He could.  Or he could fall victim to an offense where something different goes wrong on every play just like Wentz did.

I'd be very impressed if Hurts falls victim to an offense where Wentz is messing up as many plays as he did when he was playing. 

Well, at least I want to watch the games again. One of my curiosities is... if Hurts can play good NFL ball, can he revive Fulgham? I still think Fulgham can play- the way he snatches the ball out of the air with his hands is a good sign of a good receiver. His confidence is great- he has some swag to him. I would love to see that happen. And Doug- sit Peters and Jeffries down. We are going with a youth movement, so get the F out of the way!

5 hours ago, DBW said:

I’m not saying he’s a pro bowler but given opportunity is a faster, healthier, more productive option that AJ.  
 

and when asked why he’s getting more snaps than fulgham, doug literally doesn’t have an answer.  It’s not like he can say, Alshon is a stud WR and we need our top horses out there.  The simple answer is he has to play him because of the money they’re paying him but doug can’t honestly think that Alshon has any impact on the game and is truly a better option than travis right now.  It’s the same mentality that drives them to stick a broken down peters in the lineup over a healthier, younger, faster, stronger mailata.  The point is if it’s truly about the teaM and not one guy, there are several players that shouldn’t be on the field because they are a detriment to the teams success for a variety of reasons.

 

 

They could also play him and hope he pops enough to have trade value.

Fulgham will be here next year and hopefully he can learn to get open consistently in the offseason. They have an idea of his limits, but if they can get some value for Jeffrey then it will be better for the long term version of the team.

24 minutes ago, Talonblood said:

Well, at least I want to watch the games again. One of my curiosities is... if Hurts can play good NFL ball, can he revive Fulgham? I still think Fulgham can play- the way he snatches the ball out of the air with his hands is a good sign of a good receiver. His confidence is great- he has some swag to him. I would love to see that happen. And Doug- sit Peters and Jeffries down. We are going with a youth movement, so get the F out of the way!

I agree, Jeffrey needs to just be on the bench.  The future is now, play the young guys.

On 12/6/2020 at 7:27 PM, Road to Victory said:

Doesn’t matter who’s the QB if the Oline can’t block, the WR’s can’t get open, the coaches can’t coach and the GM can’t identify talent. 

Don’t forget that our trainers and medical staff can’t treat anyone correctly. Hell, even our water-boys struggle to hydrate our players. 

5 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

We get it. Hurts could have the worst performance ever and your only response will be "wEnTz sUcKs". Got it. No surprise there. Already got your list of excuses for Hurts ready to go. 

 

 

 

 

 

i fully expect Hurts to have some struggles..he is going against a defense that is:

#1 against the Run
#1 against the pass
#1 in points allowed
#1 in turnovers

all in his first start as a rookie...a monumental task

the litmus test is not going to be whether he wins or loses in this game..but the decisions he makes while he runs the offense...

1 hour ago, Columbus Eagle said:

Don’t forget that our trainers and medical staff can’t treat anyone correctly. Hell, even our water-boys struggle to hydrate our players. 

Interesting to hear Kelce talk about what he sees in Hurts, the locker room dynamic and all the issues going on.  Kelce needs to be hired on staff somewhere the second he retires.

 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I'd be very impressed if Hurts falls victim to an offense where Wentz is messing up as many plays as he did when he was playing. 

Some of Carson’s screwups were flat out rookie type mistakes so I guess it’s possible. 

2 hours ago, flyerdog said:

the litmus test is not going to be whether he wins or loses in this game..but the decisions he makes while he runs the offense...

I just hope we don't see loser play-calling by Doug, meaning a bunch of conservative designed QB runs and handoffs on 1st and 2nd down putting him in third and long, I believe that was his problem at 'Bama.

 

On 12/9/2020 at 6:04 PM, CaliEagle said:

OL are assets. I think we have to plan as if Lane and Brooks are done. If they aren't, then it's even more depth.  Mialata could compete at LT or RT next year.  Dillard concerns me. He tears a bicep before the season even starts. It's not as if he had played a lot of games and the wear and tear weakened the muscle.  I think they should try to get him healthy and then see if they can shop him.  Most teams will trade for OL. So, if we have too much talent on the OL, I wouldn't be worried about that at all. Personally, I'm not a big fan of Isaac. When he goes against good DTs, it looks like he gives up easily. I hope they draft at least 4 OL in this draft, mostly guards and possibly a center (2 Guards, a C and an OT).  We need to get an athletic line. We are terrible at screens and part of the reason is our OL just isn't strong and athletic enough to get out there to execute them well.  If Sewell falls to us somehow, we should absolutely take him. If there is a 10 year OT candidate on the board, you have to jump at it.  Let Mialata then push Lane next year for RT. Then, you can have Driscoll be the emergency tackle or even Dillard (or trade him for what you can get).

Agreeing with the bolded part in particular.

We have enough talent at the skill positions that if a decent QB had even a second more we could eat on that for a season. Not SB level, but definitely playoff worthy. 

Add a bruiser RB or a fullback/blocking TE late and our offense could be better than decent IMO.

I wonder how much better the Rams would be this year if they benched their franchise QB when he threw 16 INTs last year. I’m sure that would have given him a great boost to get better. 

3 minutes ago, wtfcares said:

I wonder how much better the Rams would be this year if they benched their franchise QB when he threw 16 INTs last year. I’m sure that would have given him a great boost to get better. 

it's not just the INTs..it's the sacks, the fumbles, the BAD throws, the poor decisions, the lack of vision...etc....

 

So they highlighted Jalen on Thursday Night Football.  Someone posted this online. 

8 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Some of Carson’s screwups were flat out rookie type mistakes so I guess it’s possible. 

Oh it's absolutely possible and Hurts is going to make mistakes. I was being facetious though bud and saying it would be impressive if Hurts is victim to Wentz still making errors even though he's on the sidelines.

7 hours ago, wtfcares said:

I wonder how much better the Rams would be this year if they benched their franchise QB when he threw 16 INTs last year. I’m sure that would have given him a great boost to get better. 

Goff threw 16 picks on the season, he only had 12 by week twelve, last year Goff threw for over 4500 yards at 63% completion, at the time of benching Wentz was on pace for less than 3500 yards at 57.5% completion and 20 picks,  if Goff was at any risk of benching going into the game as Wentz was last week, in week 12 he threw 32 of 43 (74%) for 424 yards and 2 TD's, let me tell you if Wentz had got within 10 points of that completion percentage and 150 of that yardage last Sunday, Jalen Hurts would still be very definitely the back up QB.