December 11, 20204 yr 21 hours ago, dawkins4prez said: I think people need to get over Fulgham as much more than a role player who had an improbable run. Why? Because this is Philadelphia and everything we see that is positive is a mirage? What we saw is a young player thrust into playing time due to injuries that surpassed the injured players he replaced with his play on the field. The myth is that those teams didn't game plan to account for him. That myth is bull. Only the 49ers can really claim that. After that, we played some stout defenses with good secondaries and he put up some terrific numbers during the stretch where he was the primary weapon. Then we began bringing players back --- Goedert, Jeffery, Reagor, Sanders etc... and tried to get them all involved in the passing game. Fulgham has taken a back seat for now. However, moving forward, there's no reason to expect him not to play at the level he played at during that "improbable run." As young and new to this team as he was, familiarity and experience should only help him get better.
December 11, 20204 yr After reviewing some highlights of Hurts I've changed my opinion on the guy, dude had the goods to be a star in this league, he has a cannon, he's very accurate, and he's mobile. It's all going to boil down to play calling, if that's up to par we'll witness another Bledsoe/Brady thing.
December 11, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, EagleVA said: After reviewing some highlights of Hurts I've changed my opinion on the guy, dude had the goods to be a star in this league, he has a cannon, he's very accurate, and he's mobile. It's all going to boil down to play calling, if that's up to par we'll witness another Bledsoe/Brady thing. OMG there it is. Jalen Hurts is the next Tom Brady.
December 11, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, downundermike said: OMG there it is. Jalen Hurts is the next Tom Brady. What I meant was Wentz may never get his job back as the starter in Philadelphia.
December 11, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, EagleVA said: After reviewing some highlights of Hurts I've changed my opinion on the guy, dude had the goods to be a star in this league, he has a cannon, he's very accurate, and he's mobile. It's all going to boil down to play calling, if that's up to par we'll witness another Bledsoe/Brady thing. He absolutely does not have a cannon. He doesn't have a bad arm, but it's not a cannon.
December 11, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, Swoop said: He absolutely does not have a cannon. He doesn't have a bad arm, but it's not a cannon. I'm not saying it's one of the strongest arms I've ever seen but he does have a strong arm, every bit as strong as Wentz's.
December 11, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, jsdarkstar said: The over/under on Hurt's sacks. 4. I'll go with the over. Under. They’ll have a gameplan built around his skills, and he’s got the athleticism to escape a lot of sacks Wentz couldn’t. Also JP is out... which actually makes the line better.
December 11, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, EagleVA said: After reviewing some highlights of Hurts I've changed my opinion on the guy, dude had the goods to be a star in this league, he has a cannon, he's very accurate, and he's mobile. It's all going to boil down to play calling, if that's up to par we'll witness another Bledsoe/Brady thing. Based on his college highlights I'd say he has a Russell Wilson type of arm. Above average but not anything like MV7. He can put some good touch on his throws, but I've not seen too many of his throws that are bullets with a flat trajectory. In all he can make all the throws an offense would need from a QB.
December 11, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, rstarter said: Based on his college highlights I'd say he has a Russell Wilson type of arm. Above average but not anything like MV7. He can put some good touch on his throws, but I've not seen too many of his throws that are bullets with a flat trajectory. In all he can make all the throws an offense would need from a QB. No way, you are back. Gonna start a new Derek Carr worship thread for us ??
December 11, 20204 yr Just now, downundermike said: No way, you are back. Gonna start a new Derek Carr worship thread for us ?? Just in time for the next episode of "QB controversy." Nah I've been away from stuff like this for a minute, and given everything that's happening I was curious to see how fans are coping.
December 11, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, rstarter said: Just in time for the next episode of "QB controversy." Nah I've been away from stuff like this for a minute, and given everything that's happening I was curious to see how fans are coping. I thought you quit watching football because of kneeling ??
December 11, 20204 yr 4 minutes ago, downundermike said: I thought you quit watching football because of kneeling ?? I did. I no longer watch games, and the last game I caught was in 2016. Meaning, I didn't watch any games from their 2017 championship campaign. It might be something that's better explained elsewhere, but let me just say the NFL isn't for me. I've seen Jalen play in college, and it'll be interesting to see if he can hold his own as an Eagle. I do listen to some sports podcasts, and it was through learning of Wentz relegation that I became curious of what y'all might think. I have no dog in this, I'm just looking to see where people's heads are at.
December 11, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, EagleVA said: I'm not saying it's one of the strongest arms I've ever seen but he does have a strong arm, every bit as strong as Wentz's. It doesn’t matter what you think about Hurts and his arm. I mean Carson has a "cannon” but he can’t hit the side of a bus so it doesn’t matter. Foles doesn’t have a cannon but he throws a better deep ball than Carson. My point is as long as Hurts delivers an accurate deep ball and makes good decisions with the ball he’s already an improvement over Carson.
December 11, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, EagleVA said: I'm not saying it's one of the strongest arms I've ever seen but he does have a strong arm, every bit as strong as Wentz's. Wentz would out gun Hurts any day. Only caveat is, Hurts has a better chance of hitting the target.
December 11, 20204 yr 4 hours ago, EagleVA said: I'm not saying it's one of the strongest arms I've ever seen but he does have a strong arm, every bit as strong as Wentz's. There is no way Hurt's arm is better than Wentz. Hurt's arm strength is average-below average in the NFL.
December 11, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, kentwo said: There is no way Hurt's arm is better than Wentz. Hurt's arm strength is average-below average in the NFL. I'm not sure Wentz' arm is that great though...
December 11, 20204 yr 9 hours ago, brkmsn said: Why? Because this is Philadelphia and everything we see that is positive is a mirage? What we saw is a young player thrust into playing time due to injuries that surpassed the injured players he replaced with his play on the field. The myth is that those teams didn't game plan to account for him. That myth is bull. Only the 49ers can really claim that. After that, we played some stout defenses with good secondaries and he put up some terrific numbers during the stretch where he was the primary weapon. Then we began bringing players back --- Goedert, Jeffery, Reagor, Sanders etc... and tried to get them all involved in the passing game. Fulgham has taken a back seat for now. However, moving forward, there's no reason to expect him not to play at the level he played at during that "improbable run." As young and new to this team as he was, familiarity and experience should only help him get better. I don’t think it’s a coincidence his production dropped off when the Eagles inexplicably forced Alshon back into the line up.
December 11, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, kentwo said: There is no way Hurt's arm is better than Wentz. Hurt's arm strength is average-below average in the NFL. He certainly made some impressive throws vs the Packers.
December 11, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I'm not sure Wentz' arm is that great though... That's what I'm talking about, it seems strong because he uses too much zip on the ball when he shouldn't.
December 11, 20204 yr Wentz has a great arm. His wind up and overall mechanics could use some improvement. With Hurts, his most recent Oklahoma highlights show him as someone who is pretty strong from the legs up, so much so that he doesn't need to generate much force from his legs. It's pretty effortless how he can chug the ball all things considered.
December 11, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, kentwo said: There is no way Hurt's arm is better than Wentz. Hurt's arm strength is average-below average in the NFL. I never said Hurts' arm was stronger. One thing is for sure, Hurts knows when to use zip whereas Wentz doesn't.
December 11, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said: I'm not sure Wentz' arm is that great though... That ball he threw to Goedert in Green Bay should have been a touchdown, but it floated and Goedert had to wait for it. He underthrew Goedert in the Seattle game that allowed the defender to make a play on the ball. Of course we saw him overthrow Jeffery last year too so there’s that. He also overthrew Jackson earlier in the year too. Apparently big arm is more important than accurate passes to the Wentz cult.
December 12, 20204 yr On 12/8/2020 at 6:06 PM, Mike030270 said: Yup. They created yet another QB controversy What QB has been successful when he doesn't get those? Wentz created that. If he's such a competitor that he speaks of he wouldn't sweat it as much as he did. He soft.
December 12, 20204 yr I think Hurts will surprise against the Saints. Not predicting a win or huge numbers but I think the offense will continue to improve under him. Kid has talent and guts and character and swagger. And he’s smart. Pulling for him.
