1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They made their evaluation pretty well known when they decided around the mid-season point to maximize his running skills and minimize his passing.

 

You're reading into things too much. They would've been fools to not utilize the backfield more given the unique mix of runners they had back there, and one of the best ways to help out a young QB is to take the pressure off him with a strong running game. It doesn't mean he won't be able to be better at leading the charge with a little more experience.

12 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

You're reading into things too much. They would've been fools to not utilize the backfield more given the unique mix of runners they had back there, and one of the best ways to help out a young QB is to take the pressure off him with a strong running game. It doesn't mean he won't be able to be better at leading the charge with a little more experience.

Mm-hmm.

40 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I disagree.  The fact that he needs so long to set up, and has to take that extra hop step to drive the ball tells you he has inadequate arm strength.

 

Be careful for you wish for!

Atlanta Falcon fans use to love to hate on Matt Ryan, forgetting that he had horrible teams surrounding him, horrible OLs, no defenses, and no running games. The one time he had a good OL and good running game he took them to the SB and should have won if not for a horrible defense and a stupid play call by an ego driven OC, and won MVP that year.

Now look at the Falcons, Mariota is their QB!! The have no cap space and they once again are in rebuild mode that they have been in for 5 years!

20 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Allen had to work on accuracy he had everything else  ... Hurts needs to work on accuracy, decision making, anticipation, throwing a guy open all while having a less then average arm.

People all called Allen a bust before he even got to the NFL because of his accuracy issues, because that rarely ever gets better in the pros. So Allen does something that is rare and now Hurts can do it with all that other sheet he can't do? 

Stop comparing him to Josh Allen they aren't even on the same planet let alone playing field. 

Sorry BW36 but this is just horseshit, Allen's accuracy, decision making, touch, footwork and tendency to bail from a clean pocket were all flagged as dubious in his scouting reports, you can look them up.

Nobody is saying that Hurts is going to become Josh Allen, Josh Allen is just an example of a kid who learned to play elite football in the NFL from an absolutely horrendous start. If Josh Allen had started here like he started in Buffalo his first 2 seasons, this board approaching the 2020 draft would have been full of threads like 'Allen isn't the answer, Howie needs to move up to take Tua or Herbert'

I wouldn't mind all the Hurts is never going to improve doom mongering if there was a red hot QB prospect coming out this year, but it's a draft full of people with weaker college resumes than Hurts.

On 3/22/2022 at 2:39 PM, MF POON said:

I mean, his running skills are pretty unique. LJ is better, but some of the numbers Hurts put up this season set records right? 

I'm still sort of in the in the neutral camp, where I think he could be a solid starter and I have confidence in him doing that. However, I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't pan out. 

Why would you want the QB running more than the RBs?

On 3/22/2022 at 8:14 PM, EagleVA said:

How about just waiting and see instead of trashing the guy, Allen turned it around, who knows, maybe Hurts will also.

Why?

2 hours ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

Sorry BW36 but this is just horseshit, Allen's accuracy, decision making, touch, footwork and tendency to bail from a clean pocket were all flagged as dubious in his scouting reports, you can look them up.

Nobody is saying that Hurts is going to become Josh Allen, Josh Allen is just an example of a kid who learned to play elite football in the NFL from an absolutely horrendous start. If Josh Allen had started here like he started in Buffalo his first 2 seasons, this board approaching the 2020 draft would have been full of threads like 'Allen isn't the answer, Howie needs to move up to take Tua or Herbert'

I wouldn't mind all the Hurts is never going to improve doom mongering if there was a red hot QB prospect coming out this year, but it's a draft full of people with weaker college resumes than Hurts.

Exactly.  And there's the business angle: Josh Allen is making $43 million a year.  Hurts and Minshew COMBINED are making a little north of $4 million.  After eating $34 million in dead money for the privilege of dumping Wentz - and it wasn't that long ago that the majority of this board thought Wentz was the golden child so keep that in mind when you read the evaluations on these threads - the Eagles are going to invest in other positions this offseason.

Why are we still arguing about this? It's settled.  Hurts will go into 2022 as the starting QB because a) he's inexpensive; b) there is literally no alternative that makes sense at this point, either in the draft or what's left of free agency; and c) the Eagles FO has seen enough to know at the very least they can get by with him for another season.  

Nobody's saying he's the Eagles QB for the next decade but he is absolutely the QB for the next season.  Deal with it. 

1 hour ago, Hawkeye said:

it wasn't that long ago that the majority of this board thought Wentz was the golden child so keep that in mind when you read the evaluations on these threads

 

It really is hilarious to me that the same people who refused to give up on Wentz after he played like absolute dogshit have basically been declaring Hurts a bust from Day 1. There's a perceivable bias undergirding a lot of what the detractors are saying, just like there was when they repeatedly went to bat for Wentz.

We are gonna draft a QB this year.

Some of you get a little hurt thinking about it.

4 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

We are gonna draft a QB this year.

Some of you get a little hurt thinking about it.

 

Fine by me, I doubt Hurts would wilt under the pressure like another QB did.

6 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

We are gonna draft a QB this year.

Some of you get a little hurt thinking about it.

They draft a quarterback every year.  They're The Quarterback Factory, remember?

But this is a very soft QB draft class which is why they'll spend most of their considerable firepower on other positions.

13 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It really is hilarious to me that the same people who refused to give up on Wentz after he played like absolute dogshit have basically been declaring Hurts a bust from Day 1. There's a perceivable bias undergirding a lot of what the detractors are saying, just like there was when they repeatedly went to bat for Wentz.

They could at least lean on his 2017 or 2019 season

Hurts had a rushing record. Yay! Our QB ran for more yards than our RBs

15 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It really is hilarious to me that the same people who refused to give up on Wentz after he played like absolute dogshit have basically been declaring Hurts a bust from Day 1. There's a perceivable bias undergirding a lot of what the detractors are saying, just like there was when they repeatedly went to bat for Wentz.

Wait, are we allowed to say "dogshit" now? 

When the best thing we can say about our Qb is that Josh Allen sucked in year 2, isn’t that a sign that we probably should be looking to move on?

38 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

Wait, are we allowed to say "dogshit" now? 

We’re not supposed to say "dogshit”, but somehow, dogshit hasn’t been included in the filters, so until a mod catches on and fixes that, we can say dogshit. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dogshit. 

On 3/22/2022 at 4:02 PM, MF POON said:

Foles was 1-5 with Reid during his rookie season with the ever disappointing "dream team." Reid also got fired after that season. He was 14-4 during the Chip Kelly era before he got hurt and then traded for Bradford.  During his second/final go around here he was 6-2, and won a SB/SB MVP. Like I said, he was good here.

If the guy weren't so inconsistent, he'd be legend and not just in Philly.

1 hour ago, Hawkeye said:

They draft a quarterback every year.  They're The Quarterback Factory, remember?

But this is a very soft QB draft class which is why they'll spend most of their considerable firepower on other positions.

I'll bet Howie is sniffin' around the QB draft market.

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

It really is hilarious to me that the same people who refused to give up on Wentz after he played like absolute dogshit have basically been declaring Hurts a bust from Day 1. There's a perceivable bias undergirding a lot of what the detractors are saying, just like there was when they repeatedly went to bat for Wentz.

From day1? Perhaps some have but far from all. Were you inspired after the first 6 games last year? The Eagles offense (led by who again?) scored zero points against the Bucs while they (the Bucs) were still making an effort. Playoff team indeed.

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

We’re not supposed to say "dogshit”, but somehow, dogshit hasn’t been included in the filters, so until a mod catches on and fixes that, we can say dogshit. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dogshit. 

I won’t tell if you won’t.  Let’s try another:

Horseshit.

Mods: Just an experiment…science in action…

26 minutes ago, Hawkeye said:

I won’t tell if you won’t.  Let’s try another:

Horseshit.

Mods: Just an experiment…science in action…

Dude, slow your roll.  Don't go batshit crazy, OK?

 

2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Fine by me, I doubt Hurts would wilt under the pressure like another QB did.

Well, he does have experience being replaced for poor performance so he should be used to it.

 

14 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Dude, slow your roll.  Don't go batshit crazy, OK?

 

Well played.

What have I done 

32 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

What have I done 

Don't know, but I'm pretty sure everyone may be in some deepshit when it's all said and done 

19 hours ago, CouchKing said:

We are gonna draft a QB this year.

Some of you get a little hurt thinking about it.

Not writing Hurts off but with all the experts drooling over Willis, Pickett, Howell and Corral we might be able to grab a bargain QB in a middle
round that could pay dividends in the future, either as a back-up or trade bait or maybe even starter if Hurts doesn't cut it in the long run.

Depending on how many QBs get picked early, we might snag Carson Strong in the 3rd or 4th. He's currently undervalued - although his overall
scout rating is higher than the top-ranked QB draft prospect for 2023. His weakness is his run game but our RBs have that covered and 
Strong is a solid quick-thinking pocket passer. He might be the best passer in this draft (Willis has an arm and looks great in drills
but under pressure? He was crap in the Senior Bowl.) Pickett and Ridder also look good but all three will probably go in the first. 

 

 

21 hours ago, eglz1 said:

If the guy weren't so inconsistent, he'd be legend and not just in Philly.

That's nonsense.