On 12/12/2020 at 6:33 AM, EazyEaglez said:

I was listening to the radio last night and I found out after his college season Hurts went to a quarterback clinic to change and develop his mechanics. He wanted to get better. Meanwhile have you ever heard of Wentz doing such things? He still has his same windup. Same bad feet mechanics and I have never heard of Wentz looking for any type of help on his crappy mechanics not even brining in a guru to help improve over the offseason.  In fact he’s told us over and over again he’s not changing this year in all his press conferences.  As long as he thinks everything is fine he’s a lost cause. 

It's all the offensive lines fault.  You should know that by now!  Sarcasm 

3 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Just remember the rules. When Hurts gets sacked we are supposed to blame him for not "throwing it away" but not the Oline. 

I'll just remember you're a Hypocrite baby.  No matter what you are going to be basis.  

8 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

I'll just remember you're a Hypocrite baby.  No matter what you are going to be basis.  

Look up the definition of Hypocrite before you use it please. I haven't been hypocritical about anything. 

1 hour ago, NOTW said:

Just quit it man, it's pathetic. 

A rookie in his first start against a great defense vs. a 5 year veteran, $100 million former MVP candidate. 

Wentz has been HORRIBLE this year, even the team recognized it and benched him. And yes the O line and receivers and coaching have contributed. But Wentz sucked with all his starters too. 

Feel free to use the ignore button because I certainly will feel free to say anything I dam well please. Have a nice day. Oh and trust me I know you built in the excuse. No matter how bad he plays you get to go "he's a rookie"! Leave him alone!

6 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Look up the definition of Hypocrite before you use it please. I haven't been hypocritical about anything. 

Actually you are. You get upset when people bash Wentz for bad play.  If hurts does the same you lead the charge to point out he is as well.  So yes you are.  I'm aware what hypocrite means smart guy.

7 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Feel free to use the ignore button because I certainly will feel free to say anything I dam well please. Have a nice day. Oh and trust me I know you built in the excuse. No matter how bad he plays you get to go "he's a rookie"! Leave him alone!

Ok and if Hurts plays great, what will be your excuse for why Wentz sucked all year?

8 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

Actually you are. You get upset when people bash Wentz for bad play

I get annoyed when people ignore all the dam problems on this team and pin it all on one person. And nothing will be Hurts fault today I promise you. It's amazing that people can't see a clear answer. "Hmmmmm Wentz's worst year ever (and it has been by far). I wonder what the issue is?" Also the Oline is the worst it's ever been. Oh well back to trying to figure out what's wrong with Wentz!" The answer is right in front of you and you can't grasp it. 

Just now, Uscg-green said:

I get annoyed when people ignore all the dam problems on this team and pin it all on one person. And nothing will be Hurts fault today I promise you. 

 I don't remember any post saying that everything is wentz's fault . I think that's something in your head. Every game day thread I see the offensive line sucks, the defense sucks,  jim Schwartz sucks,  Doug Peterson's play calling sucks, Wentz sucks and nobody gets open.  The team is terrible as a whole.  Most people in here know that. 

2 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

 I don't remember any post saying that everything is wentz's fault . I think that's something in your head. Every game day thread I see the offensive line sucks, the defense sucks,  jim Schwartz sucks,  Doug Peterson's play calling sucks, Wentz sucks and nobody gets open.  The team is terrible as a whole.  Most people in here know that. 

Hmmm so a line can't block and receivers can't get open. And you're telling me the QB is playing bad? I'm shocked! But hey let's alienate our franchise QB and toss him on the bench as the scapegoat.

2 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Hmmm so a line can't block and receivers can't get open. And you're telling me the QB is playing bad? I'm shocked! But hey let's alienate our franchise QB and toss him on the bench as the scapegoat.

You're changing the argument.  He also is playing bad as well.  Sorry that's my opinion.  He has made enough bad decisions and  unaccurate throws.  Again I think the whole team sucks.  

Just now, eaglestime34 said:

You're changing the argument.  He also is playing bad as well.  Sorry that's my opinion.  He has made enough bad decisions and  unaccurate throws.  Again I think the whole team sucks.  

I never said he was playing good. Not once. I have just always been of the belief that there are reasons for that. First and foremost the Oline. He didn't just forget how to play QB. He plays like this with even an average line I'd be like yeah he's done. But I don't think he is.  Well he might wanna be done with us now. 

9 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

I never said he was playing good. Not once. I have just always been of the belief that there are reasons for that. First and foremost the Oline. He didn't just forget how to play QB. He plays like this with even an average line I'd be like yeah he's done. But I don't think he is.  Well he might wanna be done with us now. 

Sometimes guys regress hard to tell.   This team needs a overhaul from top to bottom I'm sure of that.  

23 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

 I don't remember any post saying that everything is wentz's fault . I think that's something in your head. Every game day thread I see the offensive line sucks, the defense sucks,  jim Schwartz sucks,  Doug Peterson's play calling sucks, Wentz sucks and nobody gets open.  The team is terrible as a whole.  Most people in here know that. 

EVERYTHING IS HOWIE’S FAULT! The guy you’re arguing with though gets mad sore when anyone says anything unkind about Wentz no matter how factual it is. 

6 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

EVERYTHING IS HOWIE’S FAULT! The guy you’re arguing with though gets mad sore when anyone says anything unkind about Wentz no matter how factual it is. 

I know he does.  That's my fault for arguing with him.  And yes Howie definitely sucks.  He needs to go or else it won't get any better. 

3 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

I know he does.  That's my fault for arguing with him.  And yes Howie definitely sucks.  He needs to go or else it won't get any better. 

For the record I wasn’t yelling at you there. Just hoping the other guy realizes (like you were trying to tell him) the criticism around here gets spread around to all people in the organization. 

1 minute ago, EazyEaglez said:

For the record I wasn’t yelling at you there. Just hoping the other guy realizes (like you were trying to tell him) the criticism around here gets spread around to all people in the organization. 

I know you weren't.  It's all good. 

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

For the record I wasn’t yelling at you there. Just hoping the other guy realizes (like you were trying to tell him) the criticism around here gets spread around to all people in the organization. 

Really? I don't see anyone else being the scapegoat. I don't see you all in the game thread tearing into the Oline. Just Carson. Hell I've seen Carson get blamed for DEFENSIVE struggles. 

2 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Really? I don't see anyone else being the scapegoat. I don't see you all in the game thread tearing into the Oline. Just Carson. Hell I've seen Carson get blamed for DEFENSIVE struggles. 

I just posted who I believe is the real problem here. All of this is Howie’s fault. 

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

I just posted who I believe is the real problem here. All of this is Howie’s fault. 

I can agree with that. At first I just wanted him out of the draft room. But I don't think that's good enough. SB win or not. But I don't think it's happening. 

5 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Really? I don't see anyone else being the scapegoat. I don't see you all in the game thread tearing into the Oline. Just Carson. Hell I've seen Carson get blamed for DEFENSIVE struggles. 

Dude, come on man. If you're actually paying attention, and not just looking for confirmation bias, you would easily see Howie, Schwartz, the defense, the O-Line, the WRs and Doug himself all get ripped at times.

None of that changes that Wentz has been very bad on his own accord independent of other factors, and has not played one full good game yet this season.

2 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Dude, come on man. If you're actually paying attention, and not just looking for confirmation bias, you would easily see Howie, Schwartz, the defense, the O-Line, the WRs and Doug himself all get ripped at times.

None of that changes that Wentz has been very bad on his own accord independent of other factors, and has not played one full good game yet this season.

Has anyone else lost their job? You don't scapegoat the most important piece of your franchise. The person you need to rebuild around. You think he's gonna wanna play for this team next year? That's why I'm angry about this. 

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

Has anyone else lost their job? You don't scapegoat the most important piece of your franchise. The person you need to rebuild around. You think he's gonna wanna play for this team next year? That's why I'm angry about this. 

Schwartz is probably not going to be re-signed, and Lurie typically doesn't fire his HC during a season. Afterwards, who knows. He just may be.

2 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Schwartz is probably not going to be re-signed, and Lurie typically doesn't fire his HC during a season. Afterwards, who knows. He just may be.

Ironically Schwartz arguably has had the least bad year of the coaching staff. Not to say it was good. 

1 minute ago, Uscg-green said:

Ironically Schwartz arguably has had the least bad year of the coaching staff. Not to say it was good. 

They need a new direction in many areas.

5 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Has anyone else lost their job? You don't scapegoat the most important piece of your franchise. The person you need to rebuild around. You think he's gonna wanna play for this team next year? That's why I'm angry about this. 

Until Howie loses his job none of it will matter. The talent on this squad is putrid. How can this team get any coach worth his salt to come in here and had to coach around Howie’s bad draftpicks, and terrible contracts? Frankly until Howie is gone this team is stuck in quicksand.