17 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Your wording will trigger the Wentz apologists, but Carson doesn’t get hurt if he just throws that ball away instead of trying to run over the Seahawks defensive back, playing hero ball, and trying to make something out of nothing there. It was a screen play the Seahawks sniffed out. Live to fight another day, just like Jalen Hurts did in this game, by knowing to slide and throw the ball away. Four straight seasons of injuries to go with three straight season of Carson finishing the season on the sidelines. Hurts wasn’t drafted to be Carson’s backup. 

Yep.  After 5 years the guy is what he is.  He plays stupid and he plays reckless.  And that's not going to change.  So you can't rely on him.

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Not sure what play you watched, he slides to the side of the DB to go down, and then Clowney intentionally spears him, and he was close enough to see Wentz was already going down after contact from the defense.

 

Why’s he running here? Oh that’s right! It was a screen play the Seahawks sniffed out. All he has to do is throw the ball at the feet of the running back. Play over and time for the next down. What did he do? Try to play hero and got hit. If he simply throws the ball at the feet of the back does he get a helmet to the back of his head? I think not. 

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Yep.  After 5 years the guy is what he is.  He plays stupid and he plays reckless.  And that's not going to change.  So you can't rely on him.

And he went out there week after week and told us he wasn’t going to change. The smart players and coaches understand they have to change with the times or they get left behind. 

Just now, EazyEaglez said:

And he went out there week after week and told us he wasn’t going to change. The smart players and coaches understand they have to change with the times or they get left behind. 

Yep.  Arrogant and stubborn as a mule also.  Hopefully facing adversity for the first time in his entire athletic life will cause him to introspect, but I seriously doubt it.

4 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Why’s he running here? Oh that’s right! It was a screen play the Seahawks sniffed out. All he has to do is throw the ball at the feet of the running back. Play over and time for the next down. What did he do? Try to play hero and got hit. If he simply throws the ball at the feet of the back does he get a helmet to the back of his head? I think not. 

And if a cheap shot artist had not maliciously speared him he would have played the next play.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

And if a cheap shot artist had not maliciously speared him he would have played the next play.

Then maybe he actually gets the call, because he’s in the pocket instead of trying to be a hero. 🙄

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Yep.  Arrogant and stubborn as a mule also.  Hopefully facing adversity for the first time in his entire athletic life will cause him to introspect, but I seriously doubt it.

He can have that introspective someplace else. I don’t think you can go back to Carson here in Philly. It’s time to move on. I don’t know if Hurts is the future, but I’m certain that Carson isn’t the present or future in Philly.

8 hours ago, Road to Victory said:

So if Russell Wilson gets a concussion in the playoffs this year, should Seattle spend a 2nd rounder on a QB next year? 
 

Any QB can get hurt at any time. Maybe the thinking should’ve been "let’s spend a 2nd rounder on the OL so Wentz is better protected”. 

Dude that's a horrible comparison. Wilson has won a Superbowl and multiple playoff games with no where near the history of Wentz. Wilson has not had a history of injuries for one. Also please let me know in what dimension Wilson has blown out his acl, broke his back, got concussed and forced out early in his first playoff game, has yet to win a playoff game, etc. No where near the same career trajectory. Had Wilson had all of those things happen too prior to his immense success, yes someone would have been drafted to potentially replace him.

The Saint's game plan really helped Hurts. They didn't stack the box or appear to spy in any way. They rushed and curved the pocket instead of flattening it out for a running QB. Hurts got the edge easily. Cardinals are going to scheme against his running. What do we need to see from him, next level evaluation wise, if the Cardinals take away easy scramble opportunities?

21 hours ago, MeccaDon123 said:

He wasn't rattled. No happy feet.. no real bad decisions..confidence..coachable.. good reads..

And something not really being mentioned

 

Leadership.. leaders make other players want to play well. 

All the things we haven't seen this year. 

 

Where are the "wasted pick" folk? We  "rebuilt" our offense before we needed to with a single 2nd round pick. That performance was vs the best defense in the NFL and the 2nd ranked rushing D. His decision making in the pocket was noteworthy. 

We did NOT see a "spark"... we saw a complete shift in the attitude of this team. Can't wait to see this kid behind Dillard, Brooks, and lane Johnson. 

This

This game will be a tough one for Doug and Hurts. Murray play style is just like Hurts. If anyone knows how to best scheme to stop it, it would be the Cardinals. This will be a good test of game planning for Doug and the coaching staff. 

3 hours ago, judunno said:

Dude that's a horrible comparison. Wilson has won a Superbowl and multiple playoff games with no where near the history of Wentz. Wilson has not had a history of injuries for one. Also please let me know in what dimension Wilson has blown out his acl, broke his back, got concussed and forced out early in his first playoff game, has yet to win a playoff game, etc. No where near the same career trajectory. Had Wilson had all of those things happen too prior to his immense success, yes someone would have been drafted to potentially replace him.

It’s not a horrible comparison in the context that you brought up. You said after Wentz got the concussion they felt they needed a backup and here we are. 

3 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Why’s he running here? Oh that’s right! It was a screen play the Seahawks sniffed out. All he has to do is throw the ball at the feet of the running back. Play over and time for the next down. What did he do? Try to play hero and got hit. If he simply throws the ball at the feet of the back does he get a helmet to the back of his head? I think not. 

So ... cheap shots and late hits only happen on runs? If only the Eagles knew all the rules. 

https://videos.files.wordpress.com/Us7dAsow/mike-vick-concussion_dvd.mp4

 

4 hours ago, Next_Up said:

The Saint's game plan really helped Hurts. They didn't stack the box or appear to spy in any way. 

I take it you didn't watch the second half?

F Bryce Paup

4 hours ago, Next_Up said:

The Saint's game plan really helped Hurts. They didn't stack the box or appear to spy in any way. They rushed and curved the pocket instead of flattening it out for a running QB. Hurts got the edge easily. Cardinals are going to scheme against his running. What do we need to see from him, next level evaluation wise, if the Cardinals take away easy scramble opportunities?

I've been thinking about this. 

This is when Hurts has to become more of a traditional pocket QB and make those tough throws, and make quick decisions. His runs will not be there and our defense is banged up, so we need a heavy dose of keep-away, ball control, sweeps, screens, anything to keep their defense off balance. And then pop a run up the middle every now and then with the RBs. 

IMO this is going to be the game we thought the Saints game would be. Cards will be ready for a running QB.

6 hours ago, nipples said:

Ok, but Murray can throw too. Remains to be seen with Hurts but he shows good accuracy,

Wait, what??  

Accuracy is what it's all about and that's something I'd give Wentz a D+.

The one concern we should have about Hurts is his health. He played a lot smarter than Wentz on many levels,
EXCEPT for the time he ran headlong into the defense and was clobbered. It was exactly the kind of play that
took out Wentz's ACL in the Rams game. I'd sit him down and make him watch that play.

Other than that he was generally good about sliding and slippery enough to avoid getting hit.
And I think he'd have made that down if he went around the pack - he's fast enough.

Even better, let Hurts run all he wants until they reach the opposing team's 30 yard line,
then use the RBs in the red zone.

Otherwise Hurts might end up like Wentz and RG3 and just about every running QB.
 

1 hour ago, EagleVA said:

I take it you didn't watch the second half?

Hurts wasn't very good in the second half. He got figured out. 

49 minutes ago, Uscg-green said:

Hurts wasn't very good in the second half. He got figured out. 

We get it. You want Wentz. Just make it your sig so you don’t have to post about it in every thread. 

I'm just wondering how many games until the Wentz haters become Hurts haters. 

I don’t trade Wentz. Its a two quarterback League. And if Hurts balls out rest of the year he’s my starter going into camp next year. Let them compete but Wentz would have to take the job away from Hurts. If he doesn’t like it, if he runs to his agent, too bad. It would be best thing for the team and for Wentz, frankly. If he wants it he has to earn it. No more of this "I’m not going to change...” BS.

2 minutes ago, wyote said:

I'm just wondering how many games until the Wentz haters become Hurts 

If you think someone is playing bad that makes you a hater? 

2 hours ago, eaglestime34 said:

If you think someone is playing bad that makes you a hater? 

Who didn't know that Wentz was "playing bad?" 

2 hours ago, Runtherock said:

I don’t trade Wentz. Its a two quarterback League. And if Hurts balls out rest of the year he’s my starter going into camp next year.

A two quarterback league? Where is a truly two QB team?