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Jalen Hurts - shoulder sprain injury; expected for playoffs

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7 hours ago, Road to Victory said:

It’s not a horrible comparison in the context that you brought up. You said after Wentz got the concussion theyfelt they needed a backup and here we are. 

Is that not exactly what happened? After many years of failing to stay healthy once again he's injured in a big game. Front office hedged their bet when the Hurts opportunity presented itself. That's not coincidence. 

7 hours ago, Road to Victory said:

It’s not a horrible comparison in the context that you brought p. You said after Wentz got the concussion they felt they needed a backup and here we are. 

 

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11 hours ago, downundermike said:

And if a cheap shot artist had not maliciously speared him he would have played the next play.

Seems to me that some people are unable to understand that the key thing is to not give an opportunity for the cheap shot unless necessary and will still cry about the cheap shot...sigh...

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

A two quarterback league? Where is a truly two QB team?

Pretty sure he means you need two decent to good ones on the roster. 

This thread shows that most fans are willing to go back into the QB and coaching carousel for another decade versus hoping that Pederson and/or Wentz makes a comeback.  Sigh.

40 minutes ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

This thread shows that most fans are willing to go back into the QB and coaching carousel for another decade versus hoping that Pederson and/or Wentz makes a comeback.  Sigh.

What if Pederson and Hurts makes a comeback? Pederson counted out... Hurts big chip on his shoulder for being 2nd rounder. Nice story.

1 hour ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Pretty sure he means you need two decent to good ones on the roster. 

Which isn't true of a lot of the teams in the NFL...

3 hours ago, wyote said:

Who didn't know that Wentz was "playing 

You just answered the question with a question. 

8 hours ago, EagleVA said:

Wait, what??  

Accuracy is what it's all about and that's something I'd give Wentz a D+.

Maybe my wording wasn’t clear enough. I was saying overall as a passer we need to see more to make a call on Hurts (going through progressions, etc) but I’m saying he DOES have good accuracy based on what we’ve seen so far. I wasn’t referring to Wentz anywhere in my post. 

2 hours ago, E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles said:

This thread shows that most fans are willing to go back into the QB and coaching carousel for another decade versus hoping that Pederson and/or Wentz makes a comeback.  Sigh.

Or we are open to Doug coming back with Hurts as his QB. Doug’s offense looked just fine with a Different QB. In fact it’s generally looked good since he has been here whenever he has a QB other than Wentz. I believe the record is 10-3 with Foles/Hurts (and one of the losses was the meaningless week 17 vs Dallas in 2017). 38-35-1 with Wentz as his qb. 
 

Let’s see how Hurts performs these next 3 games. If he keeps playing well, and even shows progress the more he plays, then I think it makes it pretty clear that Wentz was the problem. My ideal offseason then would be canning Howie, trading Wentz, and rolling out next year with Doug still coaching and Hurts at QB. 

4 hours ago, wyote said:

Who didn't know that Wentz was "playing bad?" 

Wentz apologist who blame everyone, but him for everything wrong with this team. Funny though. Things sure did look a lot better when the Eagles greatest player ever wasn't actually in there.

2 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wentz apologist who blame everyone, but him for everything wrong with this team. Funny though. Things sure did look a lot better when the Eagles greatest player ever wasn't actually in there.

Apparently Doug has failed Wentz. Doug hasn't tailored the offense for Wentz. Well that's funny because Doug seems to be able to tailor an offense for Foles and now (ok it's only one game) it seems for Hurts. 

17 minutes ago, nipples said:

Or we are open to Doug coming back with Hurts as his QB. Doug’s offense looked just fine with a Different QB. In fact it’s generally looked good since he has been here whenever he has a QB other than Wentz. I believe the record is 10-3 with Foles/Hurts (and one of the losses was the meaningless week 17 vs Dallas in 2017). 38-35-1 with Wentz as his qb. 
 

Let’s see how Hurts performs these next 3 games. If he keeps playing well, and even shows progress the more he plays, then I think it makes it pretty clear that Wentz was the problem. My ideal offseason then would be canning Howie, trading Wentz, and rolling out next year with Doug still coaching and Hurts at QB. 

The Lions have been locked into Stafford for over 10 seasons and 162 games so far. His record during that time is 74-87-1. Are the Lions better off because they have committed themselves to Stafford that long? I don't think so.

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Apparently Doug has failed Wentz. Doug hasn't tailored the offense for Wentz. Well that's funny because Doug seems to be able to tailor an offense for Foles and now (ok it's only one game) it seems for Hurts. 

I have no idea where the article is but I know I read recently how Carson doesn’t like to run the "Foles stuff”. 

1 minute ago, nipples said:

I have no idea where the article is but I know I read recently how Carson doesn’t like to run the "Foles stuff”. 

Well OK that's fine... That's not his game. But then Sunday wasn't "Foles stuff". Sunday was "Hurts stuff".

5 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Apparently Doug has failed Wentz. Doug hasn't tailored the offense for Wentz. Well that's funny because Doug seems to be able to tailor an offense for Foles and now (ok it's only one game) it seems for Hurts. 

Foles is literally worse than Wentz this season, but somehow Doug won a Super Bowl with that guy. Doug just won a game against a team that none of his "haters" thought he could win with their Ginger Jesus under center and with a rookie no less who they claim is nothing more than a runningback. But yeah Doug's the problem. SMH

2 minutes ago, nipples said:

I have no idea where the article is but I know I read recently how Carson doesn’t like to run the "Foles stuff”. 

I remember the comment about Carson not liking to run the "Foles stuff" too. I also heard Doug basically say he gave Carson a lot of leeway to change the plays (Kill, Kill, Kill) and that he was a little concerned when Hurts audibled, but it turned out okay. Sounds like to me that Carson was running the plays he wanted to run. So much for that whole theory that Doug was calling bad plays for Carson.

1 hour ago, eaglestime34 said:

You just answered the question with a question. 

Because your question pretended to be unaware of the difference between knowing he was "playing bad" and being a hater. 

But you're certainly intelligent enough to understand the difference, so try a less dishonest tack. 

 

49 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Wentz apologist who blame everyone, but him for everything wrong with this team. Funny though. Things sure did look a lot better when the Eagles greatest player ever wasn't actually in there.

I'd guess you'll be making sarcastic comments like this about Hurts within weeks. Max would be a full season of him as a starter. 

Prove me wrong. 

20 minutes ago, wyote said:

Because your question pretended to be unaware of the difference between knowing he was "playing bad" and being a hater. 

But you're certainly intelligent enough to understand the difference, so try a less dishonest tack. 

 

 Talk about assuming things.  I still like Wentz.  I also think he's played terrible this year.  I thought it was a simple question.  Thanks for telling me what I'm thinking.  

59 minutes ago, EazyEaglez said:

Foles is literally worse than Wentz this season, but somehow Doug won a Super Bowl with that guy. Doug just won a game against a team that none of his "haters" thought he could win with their Ginger Jesus under center and with a rookie no less who they claim is nothing more than a runningback. But yeah Doug's the problem. SMH

And this is my issue. I don't understand why it's all on Doug in some peoples eyes. This is clearly not just on Doug. Has Doug been a part of the issue? Yes I think he has. He's not been a good play caller this year and just starting selections and decision making have been an issue. But he's not the biggest issue with this team. 

1 hour ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Apparently Doug has failed Wentz. Doug hasn't tailored the offense for Wentz. Well that's funny because Doug seems to be able to tailor an offense for Foles and now (ok it's only one game) it seems for Hurts. 

It's executing what's called and reacting promptly when things breakdown more than tailoring, Wentz' reaction to breakdowns was too slow.

2 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

 Talk about assuming things.  I still like Wentz.  I also think he's played terrible this year.  I thought it was a simple question.  Thanks for telling me what I'm thinking.  

In that case, you knew the answer to the question, so why did you ask the question? 

 

1 minute ago, EagleVA said:

It's executing what's called and reacting promptly when things breakdown more than tailoring, Wentz' reaction to breakdowns was too slow.

I agree with that. But then that's an issue with Wentz. He's slow to process, he's slow to react and in the NFL you can't be a really good player at the QB position if you can't do those things. 

6 minutes ago, wyote said:

In that case, you knew the answer to the question, so why did you ask the question? 

 

The point is apparently you don't!   

3 minutes ago, eaglestime34 said:

The point is apparently you don't!   

Are you saying that no one here has been hating Wentz? Nothing but level-headed evaluation of his play here? Just a lot of guys hoping he'd get back to his old self? 

LOL. 

Probably no one booed McNabb either, right? 

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