3 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Which isn't true of a lot of the teams in the NFL...

It's true for the NFC East.  Every team has had multiple quarterbacks start games this season.  And we all know how good the East is...

2 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Well OK that's fine... That's not his game. But then Sunday wasn't "Foles stuff". Sunday was "Hurts stuff".

I agree, but my point is that people trashing Doug for playcalling need to consider that a HUGE part of it is Carson doesn’t like a lot of the plays that this offense has had success with. There’s a reason there were sources inside the locker room saying Carson is stubborn, control freak, whatever it was. 
 

If Hurts goes out there and the offense keeps clicking and they get a second straight win against a team with a winning record, it tells me that Wentz is absolutely the issue. It can’t be a coincidence that he has a barely above .500 record (if you take away that one great year it would REALLY look bad), yet his backups have a 10-2 record. 

1 hour ago, wyote said:

Are you saying that no one here has been hating Wentz? Nothing but level-headed evaluation of his play here? Just a lot of guys hoping he'd get back to his old self? 

LOL. 

Probably no one booed McNabb either, right? 

Wentz was the golden boy who could do no wrong here a couple of years ago.

Nothing turns a fan base away like endless injuries and regressing to the point where he's the worst quarterback in the league. 

1 hour ago, wyote said:

Are you saying that no one here has been hating Wentz? Nothing but level-headed evaluation of his play here? Just a lot of guys hoping he'd get back to his old self? 

LOL. 

Probably no one booed McNabb either, right? 

No I didn't say that.  I only said not everyone critical of his play is a hater.  What does McNabb have to do with anything? Of course people booed him.  Making more assumptions.  

11 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Hurts wasn't very good in the second half. He got figured out. 

It was the OL, they weren't handling blitz pickups, when Hurts saw that he was on high alert and proceeded to handled his business, like I said, dude is a dynamic QB.

22 hours ago, Hawkeye said:

He is not the same guy who looked like the MVP in 2017.  He's just not. The knee, the back, the concussions. He is not the same physically.  There's a reason that he's been sacked more than any QB in the league yet Hurts was clean the entire game yesterday behind the same OL. 

Wilson, Rodgers, Mahomes are great examples of quarterbacks who make plays in motion.  Wentz does not. 

Hurts was running for his life half the time 😄

12 hours ago, Uscg-green said:

Hurts wasn't very good in the second half. He got figured out. 

Oh please. He lead the team to 24 points against the 4th ranked scoring defense in the league. 
 

In the last three games Wentz started and finished, the offense put up a whopping 17 points in each game.

So does that mean everyone has "figured out” Wentz? Because of his 12 starts, the offense has put up 7 or fewer points in a half in all but 2 games. And several shutout halves. 

On 12/14/2020 at 12:54 AM, MeccaDon123 said:

No injury history with Hurts.. It's his 1st year.. and he hasn't been "broken" because a backup QB came in and won a SB. Soooo yeah.. we don't need 1 . 

 

 

Jalen didn't break after he was pulled during the National Championship Game and replaced by a freshman, Tua. He didn't quit on his team either. He came back the next and tried to get his starting job back, when that didn't happened, he stood on the sidelines waiting for the opportunity to go in the game and play.

And on one of the biggest stages, the SEC Championship Game, he came in and won the game for us!  After he graduated in 3 years, he went to Oklahoma and lead them to the college playoff, but he will always be a Bama Boy!

He is baller, a leader, a will give all he has for his team. 

On 12/8/2020 at 2:56 PM, Uscg-green said:

Dude you should just let them have their party. It's Christmas for them.  They don't like Carson for whatever reason and think Hurts is the second coming. Let em enjoy it. It will probably come crashing down. I watched him for three years at alabama. He's great until they shut down his gimmicky runs. Then he's toast. This game probably isn't going to be pretty. I'll be putting up Christmas lights lol. I had enough of Hurts to last a lifetime already. Maybe I'm wrong and that would be nice, but I don't think I am. And we also just lost alot of cap space. Carson is done here. He will no longer feel any loyalty to this team and will not want anything to do with us and I don't blame him . So I guess we will be drafting a QB and starting all over again. Forgive me for not celebrating. A part of me is glad Carson will get a team that actually will put a real team around him. It was fun having a team AND a QB to be a fan of for awhile. I really like Carson. But guess it's just back to team. In this day and age I wouldn't get attached to a player. I definitely am not a Hurts fan so that'll be easy. 

Here's a statistic for you: 

Now 13-2.

4 hours ago, nipples said:

I agree, but my point is that people trashing Doug for playcalling need to consider that a HUGE part of it is Carson doesn’t like a lot of the plays that this offense has had success with. There’s a reason there were sources inside the locker room saying Carson is stubborn, control freak, whatever it was. 
 

If Hurts goes out there and the offense keeps clicking and they get a second straight win against a team with a winning record, it tells me that Wentz is absolutely the issue. It can’t be a coincidence that he has a barely above .500 record (if you take away that one great year it would REALLY look bad), yet his backups have a 10-2 record. 

I completely agree. The issue is that if Wentz doesn't like the plays then that's an issue. He's the QB not the HC. If he wants to call the plays then go be a HC and not a QB.

19 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I completely agree. The issue is that if Wentz doesn't like the plays then that's an issue. He's the QB not the HC. If he wants to call the plays then go be a HC and not a QB.

Biggest problem with Wentz is he's pressing too much for big plays and not taking what defenses are giving him. Has to be extremely frustrating to coach watching him fail to extend plays.

3 hours ago, nipples said:

Oh please. He lead the team to 24 points

How many of those 24 were in first half like I said?

45 minutes ago, gameshowfan91 said:

Here's a statistic for you

 

Here's a statistic for you, 0 for forever of you responding to anyone who brings facts to the table to engage in a discussion.

You are a fly by troll to scared to discuss any talking points with anyone.

On 12/14/2020 at 1:54 AM, MeccaDon123 said:

No injury history with Hurts.. It's his 1st year.. and he hasn't been "broken" because a backup QB came in and won a SB. Soooo yeah.. we don't need 1 . 

 

It's time for the Wentz folk to come to grips with what the Eagles front office have noticed. I have no clue why they gave him all that money but they probably thought 1 of 2 things would happen. It would either A. Clear his mind from contract stuff and allow him to focus on football.. or 2. He would crumble under the pressure and or get hurt..AGAIN.. and they'd need an insurance policy. They took the insurance policy with a 2nd round pick.. and well well well.. what do you know... THEY NEEDED IT. This sht is chess man.. not checkers. It's a business.. and SOMEBODY in the front office had a feeling Wentz would crumble.. so they talked everyone else into taking Hurts. And it appears to have paid off. Could you imagine having to put McCown in right now because of how Wentz looks? 

It's a brutally hard case to make right now that this franchise needed Claypool more than Hurts.

17 hours ago, EagleVA said:

I take it you didn't watch the second half?

I've watched the game quite a few times. They tightened up on read option in the second half but Hurts was still able to get the edge. They continued to not hold containment due to over aggressive pass rushers. They didn't modify this to flatten out their rush to try and hold the edge. 3rd quarter 1:04 remaining (who is the spy?), 4th quarter 9:45 remaining (who is the spy?)

There is quite a bit that the Cardinals can do to address Hurts mobility that the Saints did not do.

Did you watch the second half, Snarkasaurus?

58 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Here's a statistic for you, 0 for forever of you responding to anyone who brings facts to the table to engage in a discussion.

You are a fly by troll to scared to discuss any talking points with anyone.

You are a complete blowhard that spends too much time on a message board as evidenced by 32,488 posts of drivel. No point in anyone addressing you. Frankly, it simply is not worth the effort. Just another keyboard warrior with bad ideas like your counterpart Uscg-🤡

8 minutes ago, DevilMayRage said:

You are a complete blowhard that spends too much time on a message board as evidenced by 32,488 posts of drivel. No point in anyone addressing you. Frankly, it simply is not worth the effort. Just another keyboard warrior with bad ideas like your counterpart Uscg-🤡

Coming from the newb who has no idea what I have posted in my time here.  I bring facts to the table, and people refuse to discuss them.  @toughfighter83 has a long standing history of being a fly by troll, never responds to anyone who confronts him with facts.

6 hours ago, eaglestime34 said:

No I didn't say that.  I only said not everyone critical of his play is a hater.  What does McNabb have to do with anything? Of course people booed him.  Making more assumptions.  

Prove my assumptions wrong by continuing to support Hurts as long as he's the Eagles QB, even when he struggles. 

18 minutes ago, wyote said:

Prove my assumptions wrong by continuing to support Hurts as long as he's the Eagles QB, even when he struggles. 

Did you support the previous Eagles starting QB when he struggled ??

35 minutes ago, wyote said:

Prove my assumptions wrong by continuing to support Hurts as long as he's the Eagles QB, even when he struggles. 

I will support and cheer for any qb that starts for the eagles. 

2 hours ago, judunno said:

Biggest problem with Wentz is he's pressing too much for big plays and not taking what defenses are giving him. Has to be extremely frustrating to coach watching him fail to extend plays.

Extremely yeah! I mean why can't he just do what's being asked of him? It's so frustrating to watch and I'm sure to play with. 

Really liked Hurts when we drafted him, but not in my wildest dreams did I imagine such a first game.

That was pretty damn epic. 

3 hours ago, gameshowfan91 said:

Here's a statistic for you: 

Now 13-2.

He was asked by a reporter why his backup QB has such a winning record and Carson doesn't since Reich left.  Also asked in another question why the team seems to rally around the backup and play better.

Doug admitted he calls a simpler game, doesn't put pressure to change the plays just run what is called and that the team rallies around a backup knowing they have to step up to help.

So the question is:  why can't any of that happen for a struggling starting QB?

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

He was asked by a reporter why his backup QB has such a winning record and Carson doesn't since Reich left.  Also asked in another question why the team seems to rally around the backup and play better.

Doug admitted he calls a simpler game, doesn't put pressure to change the plays just run what is called and that the team rallies around a backup knowing they have to step up to help.

So the question is:  why can't any of that happen for a struggling starting QB?

I have felt he has always put to much on Carson. Yes he is getting a boatload of cash to take it all on but, it's not always necessary to get the freaking guy killed. He had been putting to much on him every single game since his rookie year when her broke records for a rookie QB in passing attempts. 

9 hours ago, wyote said:

Are you saying that no one here has been hating Wentz? Nothing but level-headed evaluation of his play here? Just a lot of guys hoping he'd get back to his old self? 

LOL. 

Probably no one booed McNabb either, right? 

I backed McNabb for years until the Superbowl / TO debacle. McNabb had and ego too, couldn't handle having another star on the team. Then his skills started to fade. How can you bring in people to help a QB if they don't want to share the spotlight or becomes upset enough to effect their game? That's not a team player.