3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

8 in 20. Do you not understand? 

When your ground game is getting TDs, I don't really care if he has 0 on the day.

1 minute ago, MF POON said:

When your ground game is getting TDs, I don't really care if he has 0 on the day.

8 in 20 dude, 8 in 20. 

2 minutes ago, MF POON said:

When your ground game is getting TDs, I don't really care if he has 0 on the day.

If he ends up under 20 passing TDS, do you think he starts next year?

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

8 in 20 dude, 8 in 20. 

He contributed on those scoring drives, and helped move the offense downfield. But please, stay fixated on the stat for hating purposes

Just now, Shalodeep said:

If he ends up under 20 passing TDS, do you think he starts next year?

If he has a bad season as well? No. If the team is successful and he has solid numbers in other areas, then yeah he'll start. I don't expect him to have under 20, though.

Just now, MF POON said:

He contributed on those scoring drives, and helped move the offense downfield. But please, stay fixated on the stat for hating purposes

If he has a bad season as well? No. If the team is successful and he has solid numbers in other areas, then yeah he'll start. I don't expect him to have under 20, though.

He currently has 21 TDs in his 21 starts (he had 1 passing TD before he was made starter his rookie year). 

He has shown absolutely no indication that he will eclipse 20 passing TDs this year. 

10 minutes ago, MF POON said:

He contributed on those scoring drives, and helped move the offense downfield. But please, stay fixated on the stat for hating purposes

If he has a bad season as well? No. If the team is successful and he has solid numbers in other areas, then yeah he'll start. I don't expect him to have under 20, though.

But you said it doesn't matter. So does it matter if the running game works and he is under 20, or is your argument that paper thin? 

I'll give you a hint. If he starts over 14 games this year and he is in the 20s again in most stats, it will matter

He has been given every tool and every excuse has been removed. If he isn't leaning towards top 10, they have the weaponry to draw somebody in or draft 1 out of the 8 QBs coming out 

 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

He currently has 21 TDs in his 21 starts (he had 1 passing TD before he was made starter his rookie year). 

He has shown absolutely no indication that he will eclipse 20 passing TDs this year. 

Well he's only been the starter for 1 season and 1 whole game now.  You can add his rookie season too, but 3 1/2 games on a bad team with an exiting staff is unfair on the QB.  I'll wait and gauge by mid season whether Hurts has truly taken steps forward.

What's your take on Trevor Lawrence so far? He threw a TD in his first game, but he doesn't look like he's improved much from last season. And he was viewed as an NFL ready QB by many.

 

1 minute ago, Shalodeep said:

But you said it doesn't matter. So does it matter if the running game works and he is under 20, or is your argument that paper thin? 

I'll give you a hint. If he starts over 14 games this year and he is in the 20s again in most stats, it will matter

Because in this game it really doesn't matter.  We could've forced throws at the goal line to pad Jalen's stats, but we did the smart thing and ran the ball.  I'll take that and the win any day.  If Jalen is out there making smart decisions and helping lead the team to points/wins, and isn't turning the ball over much, he'll be back.

5 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Well he's only been the starter for 1 season and 1 whole game now.  You can add his rookie season too, but 3 1/2 games on a bad team with an exiting staff is unfair on the QB.  I'll wait and gauge by mid season whether Hurts has truly taken steps forward.

What's your take on Trevor Lawrence so far? He threw a TD in his first game, but he doesn't look like he's improved much from last season. And he was viewed as an NFL ready QB by many.

 

Because in this game it really doesn't matter.  We could've forced throws at the goal line to pad Jalen's stats, but we did the smart thing and ran the ball.  I'll take that and the win any day.  If Jalen is out there making smart decisions and helping lead the team to points/wins, and isn't turning the ball over much, he'll be back.

I don't know nor care about Tlaw. He's not our QB, I haven't followed him at all. Why do you need to compare? Just take Hurts for what he is. A RB. 

7 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Well he's only been the starter for 1 season and 1 whole game now.  You can add his rookie season too, but 3 1/2 games on a bad team with an exiting staff is unfair on the QB.  I'll wait and gauge by mid season whether Hurts has truly taken steps forward.

What's your take on Trevor Lawrence so far? He threw a TD in his first game, but he doesn't look like he's improved much from last season. And he was viewed as an NFL ready QB by many.

 

Because in this game it really doesn't matter.  We could've forced throws at the goal line to pad Jalen's stats, but we did the smart thing and ran the ball.  I'll take that and the win any day.  If Jalen is out there making smart decisions and helping lead the team to points/wins, and isn't turning the ball over much, he'll be back.

They could've forced throws at the goal line.   No evidence to say that that would have padded his stats.  But, I agree... the smart thing that close was to run the ball.   In fact, Hurts had a chance to throw at the goal line at the end of the first half.  It went poorly and they settled for a FG.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They could've forced throws at the goal line.   No evidence to say that that would have padded his stats.  But, I agree... the smart thing that close was to run the ball.   In fact, Hurts had a chance to throw at the goal line at the end of the first half.  It went poorly and they settled for a FG.

Yeah it did. but that FG drive was clutch in the end as we won by 3.

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I don't know nor care about Tlaw. He's not our QB, I haven't followed him at all. Why do you need to compare? Just take Hurts for what he is. A RB. 

My point is that you have to let players develop. If Lawrence is still playing poorly by midseason and the Jags are 1-7, he'll get benched. If Hurts hasn't improved or has regressed, and we are 2-7, or 3-6 then he'll get benched.

1 minute ago, MF POON said:

My point is that you have to let players develop. If Lawrence is still playing poorly by midseason and the Jags are 1-7, he'll get benched. If Hurts hasn't improved or has regressed, and we are 2-7, or 3-6 then he'll get benched.

They aren't comparable situations, at all. Tlaw was the #1 overall pick, for a reason. His leash should be a lot longer than Hurts. 

Hurts is now in his 3RD season. Tlaw, only his 2nd. Tlaw isn't running the ball 17 times a game like a RB is. 

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

They aren't comparable situations, at all. Tlaw was the #1 overall pick, for a reason. His leash should be a lot longer than Hurts. 

Hurts is now in his 3RD season. Tlaw, only his 2nd. Tlaw isn't running the ball 17 times a game like a RB is. 

They are comparable as both are in their 2nd year as starters. Hurts has 3 1/2 more game time experience, and I'm not sure how much he learned sitting on the bench his rookie year while watching terrible play from Wentz.  If anything, he learned what not to do as a NFL QB that season.  

 

The racist he's a RB stuff should stay in the other thread.  That is absolutely the 'I only hired the best person for the job' logic which defines the best person by criteria that favors a certain race.  I don't know if Hurts will ever be a top 10 QB which is the type you typically need to win in the playoffs but guess what? Most average pocket passers aren't good enough either. Yet somehow they aren't insulted on nearly the same level from some people. I wonder why that is.

16 minutes ago, MF POON said:

 

Because in this game it really doesn't matter.  We could've forced throws at the goal line to pad Jalen's stats, but we did the smart thing and ran the ball.  I'll take that and the win any day.  If Jalen is out there making smart decisions and helping lead the team to points/wins, and isn't turning the ball over much, he'll be back.

So let me ask you again. If he plays at least 15 games, has less than 20 passing touchdowns and finishes the season ranked 20th or worse in many passing statistics, will he be starting next year? After he was given a top 5 receiving group and still has a top 5 oline (didn't show this week @_@ easily can admit that), you believe as long as he protects the ball and runs, he will start. I don't think you guys realize your talking points to defend him are the same you give to a backup filling in versus the ones you give to a starter on a team with deep playoff dreams

4 minutes ago, MF POON said:

Yeah it did. but that FG drive was clutch in the end as we won by 3.

Sure.   Would have been more clutch to get a TD before the end of the half... when you are at the 4 yard line with 46 seconds and a timeout left.   True "clutch" is scoring TDs in the last 2 minutes of a half.  QBs are paid for scoring TDs, not settling for FGs.  

 

I was really looking forward to Hurts in the 2 minute offense before the half.  What we really got was a successful deep shot, his only deep shot of the entire game, and a lot of running plays.   Not exactly something that bodes well for the future.  In fact, the 'shot' play might have been called due to the coaches not trusting that he could actually move the team down the field in a standard 2 minute drill method.  I was hoping the 2 minute offense would give me more confidence with him moving forward.   It pretty much went the other way.

48 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You're that worried about a post game locker room speech. yeesh. WGAF

Not really. I am pointing out that this guy has TALKED a great game since he became an Eagle, and continues to talk, and continues to be one and run. He talks, but where is the improvement? He is going to get injured being a running back. All talk, no growth.

1 minute ago, MF POON said:

They are comparable as both are in their 2nd year as starters. Hurts has 3 1/2 more game time experience, and I'm not sure how much he learned sitting on the bench his rookie year while watching terrible play from Wentz.  If anything, he learned what not to do as a NFL QB that season.  

 

You just gave Hurts a complete pass for his play that season, under a bad team and exiting staff.  The same thing doesn't apply to the other QB with the same team and staff?

Talk about a quick loss of credibility on your part.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The racist he's a RB stuff should stay in the other thread.  That is absolutely the 'I only hired the best person for the job' logic which defines the best person by criteria that favors a certain race.  I don't know if Hurts will ever be a top 10 QB which is the type you typically need to win in the playoffs but guess what? Most average pocket passers aren't good enough either. Yet somehow they aren't insulted on nearly the same level from some people. I wonder why that is.

Stfu

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

The racist he's a RB stuff should stay in the other thread.  That is absolutely the 'I only hired the best person for the job' logic which defines the best person by criteria that favors a certain race.  I don't know if Hurts will ever be a top 10 QB which is the type you typically need to win in the playoffs but guess what? Most average pocket passers aren't good enough either. Yet somehow they aren't insulted on nearly the same level from some people. I wonder why that is.

There is nothing racist about the assertion.  Hurts led the Eagles last season in carries and yards.  He led the team again last Sunday in carries.  That is a RB.  That is a guy who wishes to have the ball in his hands way too often instead of distributing the ball.  

5 minutes ago, MF POON said:

They are comparable as both are in their 2nd year as starters. Hurts has 3 1/2 more game time experience, and I'm not sure how much he learned sitting on the bench his rookie year while watching terrible play from Wentz.  If anything, he learned what not to do as a NFL QB that season.  

 

Wrong

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The racist he's a RB stuff should stay in the other thread.  That is absolutely the 'I only hired the best person for the job' logic which defines the best person by criteria that favors a certain race.  I don't know if Hurts will ever be a top 10 QB which is the type you typically need to win in the playoffs but guess what? Most average pocket passers aren't good enough either. Yet somehow they aren't insulted on nearly the same level from some people. I wonder why that is.

Another actual racist outs himself. Congrats brah. Loser. 

Just close your eyes and put your finger on the screen, and you'll likely find MFPoons next post. 

3 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Stfu

Turn off Tucker Carlson

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Turn off Tucker Carlson

You know the best RB in the league is a white guy, you racist? 

2 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Man it’s too bad we don’t have Wilson, his big contract, and draft capital given up for that whopping 16 points he got against his former team. We would be in such a better position right now. 

 

Yeah, Wilson's fault Williams and Gordon fumbled at the goal line.  I am sure Hurts and his intangibles stops others from fumbling.