2 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

No, I get it princess....but that is still cringy. The fact you can't reflect on your post, take a laugh at your self and go yeah .... That's pretty cringy is a lack of maturity 

 

Oh, look at the triggered TATER who got his panties all twisted now. Yeah, I'm the immature one. You really are a 🤡, and I'm happy to expose that. Thanks for playing! 

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Oh, look at the triggered TATER who got his panties all twisted now. Yeah, I'm the immature one. You really are a 🤡, and I'm happy to expose that. Thanks for playing! 

I'm a clown when you are posting random nothing about nothing quotes that aren't related to football and posting it about Jalen Hurts? It's Fing weird.  

You looked up leadership quotes that and your mind immediately went to "this reminds me of Jalen hurts! Let me post it on the board!" If that isn't cult like, I don't know what is lol 

11 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

I'm a clown when you are posting random nothing about nothing quotes that aren't related to football and posting it about Jalen Hurts? It's Fing weird.  

 

11 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

I'm a clown when you are posting random nothing about nothing quotes that aren't related to football and posting it about Jalen Hurts? It's Fing weird.  

I didn't look anything up. I happened to see an image that reminded me of Hurts' leadership qualities and posted it in the thread titled "Jalen Hurts Discussion," which followed up nicely to a post I made not too long ago that commented on his character traits. The relevance would be obvious to anyone with a clue.

But, go ahead and keep whining and babbling like a nut. It's really a great look for you!

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

 

I didn't look anything up. I happened to see an image that reminded me of Hurts' leadership qualities and posted it in the thread titled" Jalen Hurts Discussion," which followed up nicely to a post I made not too long ago thay commented on his character traits.

But, go ahead, whining and babbling like a nut. It's really a great look for you.

You literally just said you did what I accused you of lmao 

I didn't say what mcnabb said about hurts was cringy. Why? Is was a direct quote about the player discussing his play. Why do I think yours was cringy? Because it was a generic run of the mill leadership quote not football related and you ran on here to post it lol 

1 minute ago, Shalodeep said:

You literally just said you did what I accused you of lmao 

I didn't say what mcnabb said about hurts was cringy. Why? Is was a direct quote about the player discussing his play. Why do I think yours was cringy? Because it was a generic run of the mill leadership quote not football related and you ran on here to post it lol 

 

You said I "looked it up." I did not, and you conveniently failed to bold that part, 🤡

2 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Why do I think yours was cringy? Because it was a generic run of the mill leadership quote not football related and you ran on here to post it lol 

 

Leadership in football is generally the same as leadership in any endeavor, you are just way too dense to understand that.

2 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Hurts shows excellent leadership qualities, as substantiated by how the team responds to him. If that makes you cringe, it says a lot more about you than Hurts.

I'm not disputing that Hurts is a good leader, just disputing the notion that any of us have any clue.  You think he's a good leader because we are told he is.  The team is 5-0 and says nice things about Hurts.  That's all we know about how they respond to him.

17 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I'm not disputing that Hurts is a good leader, just disputing the notion that any of us have any clue.  You think he's a good leader because we are told he is.  The team is 5-0 and says nice things about Hurts.  That's all we know about how they respond to him.

 

Our opportunities to see his leadership on display are definitely limited. However, I think he exhibits leadership in the way he carries himself on the field and how he responds to questions from the media. What the players and coaches tell us seem to neatly align with what he shows us in glimpses and confirm those impressions. We also do get some limited views of his leadership in action by how the players respond to him during the games. I think this is lost on many people, but fans can discern some things about a QBs leadership abilities if they know what to look for. For years, I regularly saw Wentz evince poor leadership through his attitude and actions. With Hurts, I see signs of the opposite.

One thing that is interesting is that, this season, the Eagles have four games in which they have generated more than 400 yards of offense, which is the same as the number from all of last season. 

The Eagles had 10 games last year in which they generated less than the 357 yards we put up against the Cardinals.

So our offense is clearly operating on a different level this year, to the point where our worst game is now comparable to our pretty good games from last year.

7 hours ago, Shalodeep said:

I'm liking the wins, and respecting the Hurts output. He is definitely part of the results. I worry more about his long term health than his performance. I don't want to see the kid go the way of cam Newton and getting thrown away by the league because of heroics.  He should be a starter in the league for awhile because he is a top 15 guy. I just don't like the mentality of always trying to make something from every single play. It ruined Wentz career. Jalen is much more self aware than Wentz and I believe has a higher football IQ by quite a bit, but taking hits playing as RB will end his career fast. 

Cam was more into fashion than fb.  The guy just didn't seem to have that edge after losing to Denver in the SB.  Jalen is doing great, It shouldn't matter how you win just WIN!

1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

One thing that is interesting is that, this season, the Eagles have four games in which they have generated more than 400 yards of offense, which is the same as the number from all of last season. 

The Eagles had 10 games last year in which they generated less than the 357 yards we put up against the Cardinals.

So our offense is clearly operating on a different level this year, to the point where our worst game is now comparable to our pretty good games from last year.

All fair but it’s been a sloppy last two weeks and we barely escaped with a victory this time. The offense as a whole is not trending well and they’re about to face an excellent defense. Not great timing.

4 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I'm not disputing that Hurts is a good leader, just disputing the notion that any of us have any clue.  You think he's a good leader because we are told he is.  The team is 5-0 and says nice things about Hurts.  That's all we know about how they respond to him.

We also know what everybody else has said about his leadership. Why do you cover your ears? 

 

58 minutes ago, Deacon4Life said:

Cam was more into fashion than fb.  The guy just didn't seem to have that edge after losing to Denver in the SB.  Jalen is doing great, It shouldn't matter how you win just WIN!

That's not my point about cam. If you are just looking at a single season. Sure, shouldn't care how many hits he takes. I discussed his career projection and how it will greatly shortened. QBs can play until their late 30s now and still he elite. Cam who had all of the possible measurables and athletic ability played a very very similar style. He is the only QB that has multiple 10+ TD rushing seasons, and what did it get him? A very very shortened career. 

11 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

That's not my point about cam. If you are just looking at a single season. Sure, shouldn't care how many hits he takes. I discussed his career projection and how it will greatly shortened. QBs can play until their late 30s now and still he elite. Cam who had all of the possible measurables and athletic ability played a very very similar style. He is the only QB that has multiple 10+ TD rushing seasons, and what did it get him? A very very shortened career. 

I don't think it's because of health. Cam, IMO, was the epitome of a guy that was great when things were going well, but when things started going down hill, there was no fire. There were games where he just looked like he quit. Teammates see that. Coaches see that. Fans see that. 

That's just my opinion, however.

10 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

I don't think it's because of health. Cam, IMO, was the epitome of a guy that was great when things were going well, but when things started going down hill, there was no fire. There were games where he just looked like he quit. Teammates see that. Coaches see that. Fans see that. 

That's just my opinion, however.

I think there definitely is a physical decline or somebody would definitely have tried at one of the openings. Yeah, he is annoying, but came in with insane traits. He's only 34 I believe and nobody has taken him serious for probably 3-4 years. It's a physical game and that man got shaq treatment. I think Jalen has enough smarts to get through a third read, and to get out of bounds. He has the hero mentality and for health, I hope he learns to pull it back and let his RBs and wide outs take that abuse. 

39 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

We also know what everybody else has said about his leadership. Why do you cover your ears? 

 

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/carson-wentz-eagles-leader-quarterback-20200910.html?outputType=amp
 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/qb-carson-wentz-named-eagles-ed-block-courage-award-recipient-for-2018
 

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/6/6/18655888/the-eagles-are-betting-carson-wentz-can-earn-his-own-statue
 

This is just from looking on my phone while my car drives. There is a hype machine to label every starting qb as a leader.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/carson-wentz-eagles-leader-quarterback-20200910.html?outputType=amp
 

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/qb-carson-wentz-named-eagles-ed-block-courage-award-recipient-for-2018
 

https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2019/6/6/18655888/the-eagles-are-betting-carson-wentz-can-earn-his-own-statue
 

This is just from looking on my phone while my car drives. There is a hype machine to label every starting qb as a leader.

In the 3 articles you listed, only Howie calls Wentz a "great leader." I listed just a few of the players that have praised Hurts specifically for his leadership.  There's no doubt Wentz was the offensive leader on the team while he was the starter, But Hurts' leadership stands out to many of the same teammates. 

16 minutes ago, brkmsn said:

In the 3 articles you listed, only Howie calls Wentz a "great leader." I listed just a few of the players that have praised Hurts specifically for his leadership.  There's no doubt Wentz was the offensive leader on the team while he was the starter, But Hurts' leadership stands out to many of the same teammates. 

Wentz wasn’t a great leader.  Every starting qb is a "great leader” until they aren’t.  
 

I don’t really care anyway.  It’s a game.  Leadership is overrated.  Respect is not.  If you aren’t respected, it impacts performance.  If you are, that’s good enough.  Brady isn’t a great leader, but he’s respected.

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Wentz wasn’t a great leader.  Every starting qb is a "great leader” until they aren’t.  
 

I don’t really care anyway.  It’s a game.  Leadership is overrated.  Respect is not.  If you aren’t respected, it impacts performance.  If you are, that’s good enough.  Brady isn’t a great leader, but he’s respected.

Brady is a phenomenal leader. What an odd statement to make.

And also disagree, leadership is a key reason we have a super bowl. Doesn’t mean Jalen will become a great (or even good) player, but to say leadership is overrated is absurd.

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

 Leadership is overrated. 

I emphatically disagree. 

leadership is important to fans who romanticize the game and to those who sell that product to them.

44 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

leadership is important to fans who romanticize the game and to those who sell that product to them.

Agreed who cares who the leader is to us. The guys in the locker room know who those guys are that are looked up too and respected. I never understood why fans are so hell bent on calling out who the leaders are because we truly don't know

46 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

leadership is important to fans who romanticize the game and to those who sell that product to them.

I think you just confused leadership with statistics. 

10 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Agreed who cares who the leader is to us. The guys in the locker room know who those guys are that are looked up too and respected. I never understood why fans are so hell bent on calling out who the leaders are because we truly don't know

 

A team needs many leaders, and they can come from any position group, but the QB must be a leader in some significant capacity for a team to be successful these days.