30 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I don’t see any gay jokes? Please point them out cause I like to laugh 

 

 

13 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Why not be objective instead a d riding loser? 

 

These posts literally came 5 minutes apart. The lack of self-awareness in this crowd is just... 

9 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

False, and this has nothing to do with people posting stats corroborating Hurts' elite play this year. The hater reaction is double-down and deflect from the facts that don't fit their preconceived notions.

 

 

I don't see how it was a "god awful throw;" Hurts surely saw the void in coverage and tried to take advantage of it. Sure, if the safety took the correct angle and showed some hustle, maybe that play ends differently, but he was basically caught out of position. If he was in position, Smith could easily still have caught the ball but would have either taken a hit or been tackled to save the TD. At worst, that's a 50/50 ball where the QB is supposed to trust that his receiver can go up and get it. I don't really have an issue with the throw, which was basically accurate. Sure, it's a difficult throw into a tight window, but Hurts has making those throws all year. As long as it's working, I say let 'er rip.

Ya great throw. You’re insane. Devonta is lucky he’s not puking up blood this morning because the safety is a moron. Look up "hospital pass” in the dictionary and that would be the prime example. 
 

Reverse the teams. If Jones had thrown that exact pass and our safety played it that way, we’d be roasting Jones for the throw and roasting the safety for an idiotic play.

14 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Sure, if the safety took the correct angle and showed some hustle, maybe that play ends differently, but he was basically caught out of position.

No, because of the new rules, the safety tried to catch the ball instead of putting Devonta in the hospital.

If that was Brian Dawkins, the receiver may have been killed.

23 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

But to act like he’s the rising tide that raises everybody’s game is why there’s backlash. It takes a village, and the offense has become very complementary, which is the biggest reason for our success this year

The idea of a QB elevating those around him is entirely subjective, but it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that Hurts has been doing exactly that, regardless of whether the team around him is well-suited for his success. I never understood how this is supposed to a knock against Hurts, either, as this is supposed to be every team's intention for QB development and bad organizations get killed all the time by fans and the press for not "building a team that suits the QBs strengths." The very notion that "backlash" is deserved for saying that Hurts is elevating the play of his teammates (which even many in the national media are beginning to recognize now) is another example of the visceral aversion that people have to anything that is a credit to Hurts. Even if they're become willing to praise him, you better not praise him too much, and the haters have determined that they will be the arbiters of just how much praise is acceptable for Hurts.

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Reverse the teams. If Jones had thrown that exact pass and our safety played it that way, we’d be roasting Jones for the throw and roasting the safety for an idiotic play.

Yup, I have never seen an Eagles' safety misplay a deep ball, said no one, ever.

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Ya great throw. You’re insane. Devonta is lucky he’s not puking up blood this morning because the safety is a moron. Look up "hospital pass” in the dictionary and that would be the prime example. 
 

Reverse the teams. If Jones had thrown that exact pass and our safety played it that way, we’d be roasting Jones for the throw and roasting the safety for an idiotic play.

 

This is why you can't be argued with. I never said "great throw;" I used your words and said that "I don't see how it was a god awful throw," which is an extremely hyperbolic statement at best. Smith definitely could've gotten blown up on that play, though, that much is correct. But in terms of timing and ball placement, it wasn't bad, and if Hurts took that shot because he caught the safety playing tiddly-winks, then it's a pretty savvy one at that.

4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

The idea of a QB elevating those around him is entirely subjective, but it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that Hurts has been doing exactly that, regardless of whether the team around him is well-suited for his success. I never understood how this is supposed to a knock against Hurts, either, as this is supposed to be every team's intention for QB development and bad organizations get killed all the time by fans and the press for not "building a team that suits the QBs strengths." The very notion that "backlash" is deserved for saying that Hurts is elevating the play of his teammates (which even many in the national media are beginning to recognize now) is another example of the visceral aversion that people have to anything that is a credit to Hurts. Even if they're become willing to praise him, you better not praise him too much, and the haters have determined that they will be the arbiters of just how much praise is acceptable for Hurts.

He is not elevating AJ Brown's play, AJ Brown has always been a stud.

Do the Eagles run through the NFC playoffs if AJ Brown tears his ACL next week ??  I mean, he could just elevate Zach Paschal's play and we would not miss a beat.

Why didn't he elevate 1st round pick Jalen Reagor's play, or JJAWful's play ??

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

No, because of the new rules, the safety tried to catch the ball instead of putting Devonta in the hospital.

If that was Brian Dawkins, the receiver may have been killed.

 

You'd be giving the Giants safety the benefit of the doubt, but ok. Even if that's the case, if the rules are such now that safeties are going to play scared and almost concede the catch, then take advantage of it. 

3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

This is why you can't be argued with. I never said "great throw;" I used your words and said that "I don't see how it was a god awful throw," which is an extremely hyperbolic statement at best. Smith definitely could've gotten blown up on that play, though, that much is correct. But in terms of timing and ball placement, it wasn't bad, and if Hurts took that shot because he caught the safety playing tiddly-winks, then it's a pretty savvy one at that.

It was a god awful throw. Spin it how you want

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

You'd be giving the Giants safety the benefit of the doubt, but ok. Even if that's the case, if the rules are such now that safeties are going to play scared and almost concede the catch, then take advantage of it. 

I am not sure all safeties would have done that, still could have dropped a shoulder and leveled him.

As was pointed out, we would be absolutely killing Epps or CJG if they did the same thing, and be wondering why they did not lay the receiver out.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

It was a god awful throw. Spin it how you want

So a TD pass is a god awful throw  

The sad thing is, you really think you're being objective 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Do the Eagles run through the NFC playoffs if AJ Brown tears his ACL next week ??  I mean, he could just elevate Zach Paschal's play and we would not miss a beat.

Why didn't he elevate 1st round pick Jalen Reagor's play, or JJAWful's play ??

 

Now, now, let's not start getting huffy and throwing out nonsensical comparisons that torpedo your argument for me. AJB is actually a good if not great receiver in his own right, regardless of who is playing QB. The latter are scrubs who will struggle to succeed in any situation. The difference is that AJB was underachieving his first few years in the league, and it would appear that was mainly due to QB play and coaching.

 

2 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

So a TD pass is a god awful throw  

The sad thing is, you really think you're being objective 

 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I am not sure all safeties would have done that, still could have dropped a shoulder and leveled him.

As was pointed out, we would be absolutely killing Epps or CJG if they did the same thing, and be wondering why they did not lay the receiver out.

 

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

Hmmm…maybe some of the credit for that should go to Brown, who’s made some ridiculous catches in tight coverage on deep throws. Things reagor could never dream of

Absolutely, AJ is the kind of franchise WR we have been salavating over for years, and he has had a resounding impact on not only Hurts’ success, but the offense as a whole. With that said, I don’t think the Hurts of last year would be having an MVP season with this roster.
 

Hurts progress as a passer is categorical, and it coinciding with the AJ acquisition, Shane’s improved play calling, and Smitty’s progress is leading to an MVP campaign and hopeful SB run.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Now, now, let's not start getting huffy and throwing out nonsensical comparisons that torpedo your argument for me. AJB is actually a good if not great receiver in his own right, regardless of who is playing QB. The latter are scrubs who will struggle to succeed in any situation. The difference is that AJB was underachieving his first few years in the league, and it would appear that was mainly due to QB play and coaching.

 

He has the same stats this year that he did his best year with Tannehill

This thread started with what I’m assuming were good intentions but has manifested into the butthole of the message board.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I am not sure all safeties would have done that, still could have dropped a shoulder and leveled him.

As was pointed out, we would be absolutely killing Epps or CJG if they did the same thing, and be wondering why they did not lay the receiver out.

That's true. But we also kill our D coordinator for not blitzing even though we have more sacks at this point in the season than any other team has had in decades lol.

2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Now, now, let's not start getting huffy and throwing out nonsensical comparisons that torpedo your argument for me. AJB is actually a good if not great receiver in his own right, regardless of who is playing QB. The latter are scrubs who will struggle to succeed in any situation. The difference is that AJB was underachieving his first few years in the league, and it would appear that was mainly due to QB play and coaching.

 

100% false.  Here are AJ Browns numbers with Tannehill and Hurts extrapolated out to 17 games.  2020 and 2022 are identical ( well, he is on pace for 29 more yards )

 

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

This thread started with what I’m assuming were good intentions but has manifested into the butthole of the message board.

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

He has the same stats this year that he did his best year with Tannehill

 

Wat? He has more yards, a higher YPC, and twice as many TDs through 13 games.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

100% false.  Here are AJ Browns numbers with Tannehill and Hurts extrapolated out to 17 games.  2020 and 2022 are identical ( well, he is on pace for 29 more yards )

 

 

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Wat? He has more yards, a higher YPC, and twice as many TDs through 13 games.

 

3 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Wat? He has more yards, a higher YPC, and twice as many TDs through 13 games.

I already posted the extrapolated to 17 games stats that prove you are wrong, but

He has less yards than 2020 - 1075 - 1028

He has a slightly higher YPC - 15.7 to 15.4

Not sure how 10 is twice as many TD's as 11

And you wonder why you can't have a reasonable discussion about Hurts, when you straight make up nonsense.

 

6 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Wat? He has more yards, a higher YPC, and twice as many TDs through 13 games.

You realize he only played 14 games in 2020, right? On a per game basis, this year is almost identical to his 2020 season. Now, he’s been better this year than he was last year, but that doesn’t mean he’s having the best season of his career 
 

Hurts has been awesome this year, but AJ absolutely isn’t putting up better numbers here than he did in Tennessee. 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I already posted the extrapolated to 17 games stats that prove you are wrong, but

He has less yards than 2020 - 1075 - 1028

He has a slightly higher YPC - 15.7 to 15.4

Not sure how 10 is twice as many TD's as 11

And you wonder why you can't have a reasonable discussion about Hurts, when you straight make up nonsense.

 

 

Not sure why we're going back to 2020, as the most logical reference would be the previous season. So, AJB regressed last year, and now this year, he's having a renaissance of sorts. I'm sure that has zero to do with Hurts, though. 

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Not sure why we're going back to 2020, as the most logical reference would be the previous season. So, AJB regressed last year, and now this year, he's having a renaissance of sorts. I'm sure that has zero to do with Hurts, though. 

Because he played with the same QB in 2020 as 2021. The original point was that Hurts is elevating Brown’s stats, but that isn’t true since he already had just as good a season with Tannehill as he is now. 
 

Jalen is absolutely a far better QB than Tannehill, but Brown is a stud regardless of who is throwing him the ball.