11 hours ago, Bill said:

From the article: "A wise man once said, ‘You shouldn’t cal yourself a doctor unless you’ve delivered a child’.”

Fn OB is like the easiest medical field. The profession is getting taken back over by midwives. Ffs, whoever wrote that doesn’t know ish about F. 

Funny part is, you should kinda have a doctorate yourself if you are getting on that soap box.  He doesn't.

12 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

 

There are better nudes of Melania. Sorry.

10 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Not really.  But yes it is a ridiculously dumb comment.  

Well, who considers periodontists doctors, anyway?

10 minutes ago, Bill said:

Well, who considers periodontists doctors, anyway?

Their parents I guess?  But that's not the same. OBGYNs do surgery. Pretty complicated surgery in some cases (pelvic anatomy is complex). And even if you're only focusing on deliveries they're still the only ones doing C sections. Gotta be trained to go from incision to baby in about 5 minutes in urgent cases. Midwives aren't taking that over. 

As far as ease of getting into and ease of the job one your there it's pretty middle of the road for medical fields. 

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Their parents I guess?  But that's not the same. OBGYNs do surgery. Pretty complicated surgery in some cases (pelvic anatomy is complex). And even if you're only focusing on deliveries they're still the only ones doing C sections. Gotta be trained to go from incision to baby in about 5 minutes in urgent cases. Midwives aren't taking that over. 

As far as ease of getting into and ease of the job one your there it's pretty middle of the road for medical fields. 

How do you rank the different medical fields?

Definitely pediatricians at the bottom

😉

 

Just busting your chops @DEagle7

3 minutes ago, Bill said:

How do you rank the different medical fields?

If you're talking testing scores all things being equal it's surgical specialists at the top, internal medicine and OBGYN are in the middle, peds and psych are at the bottom. 

Compensation and work satisfaction wise later on OBGYN tends to be higher than generalist internal med docs but not as high as the more competitive specialists (eg cardiologist and gastroenterology) .

Just now, Dave Moss said:

Just busting your chops @DEagle7

I mean you're not wrong 🤷‍♂️

Relative to other fields it is easier to do and get into. I spent 15 minutes convincing a new mom that hiccups are ok yesterday. Usually what I do isn't that complicated. I'm ok with that. 

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I mean you're not wrong 🤷‍♂️

Relative to other fields it is easier to do and get into. I spent 15 minutes convincing a new mom that hiccups are ok yesterday. Usually what I do isn't that complicated. I'm ok with that. 

 

I'm betting this can be a lot harder at time than one may think

isn't nice to have these types of issues with our leaders again as opposed to the last 4yrs ? 

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If you're talking testing scores all things being equal it's surgical specialists at the top, internal medicine and OBGYN are in the middle, peds and psych are at the bottom. 

Compensation and work satisfaction wise later on OBGYN tends to be higher than generalist internal med docs but not as high as the more competitive specialists (eg cardiologist and gastroenterology) .

I mean you're not wrong 🤷‍♂️

Relative to other fields it is easier to do and get into. I spent 15 minutes convincing a new mom that hiccups are ok yesterday. Usually what I do isn't that complicated. I'm ok with that. 

Nah, I’m just messing with you.  One of my good friends is a pediatrician.  We only became friends because our daughters are friends.  But we’ve actually vacationed together a few times now.

13 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I spent 15 minutes convincing a new mom that hiccups are ok yesterday. Usually what I do isn't that complicated. I'm ok with that. 

Usually that just means the kid got into the liquor cabinet.

Just move the expensive stuff up where the kid can't reach. Problem solved.

That'll be $125.

12 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If you're talking testing scores all things being equal it's surgical specialists at the top, internal medicine and OBGYN are in the middle, peds and psych are at the bottom. 

Compensation and work satisfaction wise later on OBGYN tends to be higher than generalist internal med docs but not as high as the more competitive specialists (eg cardiologist and gastroenterology) .

I mean you're not wrong 🤷‍♂️

Relative to other fields it is easier to do and get into. I spent 15 minutes convincing a new mom that hiccups are ok yesterday. Usually what I do isn't that complicated. I'm ok with that. 

I hear looking at vachinas all day increases your work satisfaction.  That's why stripper DJ's have a higher work satisfaction than regular DJs.

14 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I hear looking at vachinas all day increases your work satisfaction.  That's why stripper DJ's have a higher work satisfaction than regular DJs.

Yeah but I'd imagine the type of, shall we say vachine clientele(?), is quite different between an OBGYN's office, and a strip club.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah but I'd imagine the type of, shall we say vachine clientele(?), is quite different between an OBGYN's office, and a strip club.

Yeah, I was just messing around.  I wouldn't want to perform Pap smears on old ladies all day.  And honestly, strip clubs are pretty sad in their own way too.

36 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

isn't nice to have these types of issues with our leaders again as opposed to the last 4yrs ? 

Yup, file this with the tan suit incident.  

We have big important issues to care about but this sort of stuff gets so much attention and "outrage."  Melania's red Christmas trees or Jill Biden calling herself Dr.  Who cares.

37 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

isn't nice to have these types of issues with our leaders again as opposed to the last 4yrs ? 

It is pretty refreshing.

For the remainder of the Biden administration I'm going to refer to her as Dr. Biden and drop the "First Lady" just to trigger the snowflakes.

8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

  And honestly, strip clubs are pretty sad in their own way too.

You don't support single moms?

With academic doctorates its all about the context. When I teach (I adjunct for my alma mater), especially undergrads, I go by doctor. In my regular job, I'm around surgeons all day so I wouldn't even think about it. Most of those guys insist on being called Dr (though amazingly it's women surgeons and minority men who almost always want you to call them by their first names). It's cool that the first lady earned an academic doctorate and after the bubble headed trophy wife we've had as a first lady, I think it's more than appropriate to call her Dr. Biden. It was a stupid editorial. 

40 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Yup, file this with the tan suit incident.  

We have big important issues to care about but this sort of stuff gets so much attention and "outrage."  Melania's red Christmas trees or Jill Biden calling herself Dr.  Who cares.

preach it brotha !

40 minutes ago, toolg said:

It is pretty refreshing.

For the remainder of the Biden administration I'm going to refer to her as Dr. Biden and drop the "First Lady" just to trigger the snowflakes.

lynched just threw his coffee against the wall. 

2 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

Nah, I’m just messing with you.  One of my good friends is a pediatrician.  We only became friends because our daughters are friends.  But we’ve actually vacationed together a few times now.

We tend to rank pretty high on the quality of life surveys for docs FWIW.  I'll take it.

There's nothing wrong with recognizing that not all doctorates are made equal.  But fixating on what someone refers to themselves as (as long as it's not a lie) is just petty AF. I did have a cousin who started calling herself a doctor after 1 year of dental school and that was a bridge too far for me though.

2 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

I'm betting this can be a lot harder at time than one may think

True, but at that point it's more a customer service job vs than a trained skill.  Like an IT guy trying to convince grandpa that Google didn't steal his password.

2 hours ago, VanHammersly said:

I hear looking at vachinas all day increases your work satisfaction.  That's why stripper DJ's have a higher work satisfaction than regular DJs.

Most strippers aren't actively pooping and/or bleeding when you're checking out their vajeen.  Outside of Tijuana at least.

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

We tend to rank pretty high on the quality of life surveys for docs FWIW.  I'll take it.

There's nothing wrong with recognizing that not all doctorates are made equal.  But fixating on what someone refers to themselves as (as long as it's not a lie) is just petty AF. I did have a cousin who started calling herself a doctor after 1 year of dental school and that was a bridge too far for me though.

True, but at that point it's more a customer service job vs than a trained skill.  Like an IT guy trying to convince grandpa that Google didn't steal his password.

Most strippers aren't actively pooping and/or bleeding when you're checking out their vajeen.  Outside of Tijuana at least.

Oh awesome. Hey thanks for that doc. I mean, who wants to keep their lunch in their stomachs anyway, right?

12 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Most strippers aren't actively pooping and/or bleeding when you're checking out their vajeen.  

Right.

You have to pay extra for that in the VIP room.

12 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh awesome. Hey thanks for that doc. I mean, who wants to keep their lunch in their stomachs anyway, right?

Sorry man. Birth is gross. 

Wow you guys.. you've turned a discussion about an accomplished woman who has earned her doctorate into strippers, pooping and bleeding vagines.  Bravo.