January 28, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, Toastrel said: We're not going to escape. There have been other attempts since the 6th and more are coming, it would seem. I think you are right.
January 28, 20214 yr Trump is impeached in name only..again. Our government is now filled with conspiracy theorists and no consequences go to anyone. Trump was right when he said he can kill somebody in the street and not lose any votes. Our government is over.
January 28, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said: Trump is impeached in name only..again. Our government is now filled with conspiracy theorists and no consequences go to anyone. Trump was right when he said he can kill somebody in the street and not lose any votes. Our government is over.
January 28, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, SPIDER-MAN said: Trump is impeached in name only..again. Our government is now filled with conspiracy theorists and no consequences go to anyone. Trump was right when he said he can kill somebody in the street and not lose any votes. Our government is over. It certainly sucks that we just let a wanna-be tyrant get away with an attempted coup which sends a horrible message going forward, but politically Trump not being convicted is great for the Dems. This was an olive branch from the Dems to the GOP, a gift that would've given them a chance to save themselves, but they don't want it. All it does is guarantee that Trump will be the 2024 nominee, which guarantees another Republican loss. Our government isn't over, but the Republican Party is.
January 28, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: It certainly sucks that we just let a wanna-be tyrant get away with an attempted coup which sends a horrible message going forward, but politically Trump not being convicted is great for the Dems. This was an olive branch from the Dems to the GOP, a gift that would've given them a chance to save themselves, but they don't want it. All it does is guarantee that Trump will be the 2024 nominee, which guarantees another Republican loss. Our government isn't over, but the Republican Party is. But how when only 5 of 45 have voted to impeach? I don't know a lot about politics, so help me here. I mean that base isn't going away. Even McConnell is sucking Trump's D again.
January 28, 20214 yr Just now, SPIDER-MAN said: But how when only 5 of 45 have voted to impeach? I don't know a lot about politics, so help me here. I mean that base isn't going away. It means they're going to let him continue to lead their party. They think he'll take some sort of backroom position of kingmaker, because that's what they have to believe, but deep down they know that he's 100% going to run again in 2024, because he's an attention-starved clown. And when he runs again, he's guaranteed to win the nomination. And when he wins the nomination, he's guaranteed to lose the general. Trump has more support than he needs to dominate the Republican Party until his dying day. But he'll never have anywhere close to enough support to win the general again. The stars aligned for him in 2016 and it was only able to happen because the American people had never seen him run a country. Now they have. And they're never going to let him do it again. So he's a zombie, leading the Republican Party into the grave. And they're clearly never even going to try and stop him, because they're fascists or they're cowards, whatever the reason it doesn't really matter. They're driving their party into ruin.
January 28, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Toastrel said: A lot people seemed in the know. The warnings ignored, the call for help unanswered and even blocked by the acting Secretary of Defense. The country cannot let this treason stand. I remember back in the the campaign when Bannon described himself as a Leninist. Quote "I am a Leninist.” He was talking to a New York university academic who had written extensively on communism and the former Soviet Union. "What on earth do you mean?” the professor asked him. "Lenin wanted to destroy the state and that’s my goal too,” replied Bannon. "I want to bring everything crashing down and destroy all of today’s establishment.” I brought this up several times as I found this quote particularly disturbing even by Trump campaign standards. CVON Trumpbots reaction: "Rheeeeeeeeeee MAGAAAAAAAAAA"
January 28, 20214 yr 34 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: It certainly sucks that we just let a wanna-be tyrant get away with an attempted coup which sends a horrible message going forward, but politically Trump not being convicted is great for the Dems. This was an olive branch from the Dems to the GOP, a gift that would've given them a chance to save themselves, but they don't want it. All it does is guarantee that Trump will be the 2024 nominee, which guarantees another Republican loss. Our government isn't over, but the Republican Party is. 22 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: It means they're going to let him continue to lead their party. They think he'll take some sort of backroom position of kingmaker, because that's what they have to believe, but deep down they know that he's 100% going to run again in 2024, because he's an attention-starved clown. And when he runs again, he's guaranteed to win the nomination. And when he wins the nomination, he's guaranteed to lose the general. Trump has more support than he needs to dominate the Republican Party until his dying day. But he'll never have anywhere close to enough support to win the general again. The stars aligned for him in 2016 and it was only able to happen because the American people had never seen him run a country. Now they have. And they're never going to let him do it again. So he's a zombie, leading the Republican Party into the grave. And they're clearly never even going to try and stop him, because they're fascists or they're cowards, whatever the reason it doesn't really matter. They're driving their party into ruin. ^This MFer spittin
January 28, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: So he's a zombie, leading the Republican Party into the grave. And they're clearly never even going to try and stop him, because they're fascists or they're cowards, whatever the reason it doesn't really matter. They're driving their party into ruin. In my mind they are botching the analysis. They seem to be trying to kick the can down the road in the hopes that situation will improve. While it is painful I think their best chance is to try to cut the cancer out now. I don't think their chances get better.
January 28, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: In my mind they are botching the analysis. They seem to be trying to kick the can down the road in the hopes that situation will improve. While it is painful I think their best chance is to try to cut the cancer out now. I don't think their chances get better. I think what they're hoping is that they can evolve it all into simply a fiscally conservative opposition party, that cries about spending and keeps the Dems in check, sort of like a Tea Party but with a Trump branding on it. But that's not in line with the ideology of the tumor that they're letting grow right now. The Trump ideology includes massive government spending. It's transactional in that the people need to get a direct benefit from the government. That's kryptonite for the GOP. Their devil's bargain for the last 40 years has been they get to keep the fiscal conservatism as long as their base is fed social conservatism. But if the base isn't on board with the fiscal conservatism then what does the establishment gain from this arrangement? Essentially nothing.
January 28, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: In my mind they are botching the analysis. They seem to be trying to kick the can down the road in the hopes that situation will improve. While it is painful I think their best chance is to try to cut the cancer out now. I don't think their chances get better. After 2016, I don't underestimate these people. I think they're going to court the extremist vote, which might be a demographic that has growth potential for them since a lot of these freaks weren't active voters before. And while trying to grow that audience, they'll rely on right-leaning moderates to keep coming home for the low taxes, etc. One of the CVON exchanges burned into my memory was HazeltonEagle saying how Trump botched covid response, resulting in death and economic harm - yet he was gonna vote Trump anyway on the off chance that Biden raised taxes in his income bracket (not $400k). So in that, I saw a person who could acknowledge that Trump was unfit to lead us through a crisis that reshaped our daily lives in a way we haven't seen since probably WW2...yet the thought of Biden raising taxes for two years, until punishing him in midterms (if it even happened) was just too much to bear. That's all you need to keep those people coming back to the polls. Don't underestimate the GOP. If there's growth potential in the loonies, they will cultivate, sow, and reap the loonies.
January 28, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Lloyd said: After 2016, I don't underestimate these people. I think they're going to court the extremist vote, which might be a demographic that has growth potential for them since a lot of these freaks weren't active voters before. And while trying to grow that audience, they'll rely on right-leaning moderates to keep coming home for the low taxes, etc. One of the CVON exchanges burned into my memory was HazeltonEagle saying how Trump botched covid response, resulting in death and economic harm - yet he was gonna vote Trump anyway on the off chance that Biden raised taxes in his income bracket (not $400k). So in that, I saw a person who could acknowledge that Trump was unfit to lead us through a crisis that reshaped our daily lives in a way we haven't seen since probably WW2...yet the thought of Biden raising taxes for two years, until punishing him in midterms (if it even happened) was just too much to bear. That's all you need to keep those people coming back to the polls. Don't underestimate the GOP. If there's growth potential in the loonies, they will cultivate, sow, and reap the loonies. Yeah, I'm talking about the establishment in the GOP. Their best chance to reassert themselves is to try to mortally wound Trump or at least weaken him so much that all he take with him are the 20M crazies.
January 28, 20214 yr 28 minutes ago, Lloyd said: After 2016, I don't underestimate these people. I think they're going to court the extremist vote, which might be a demographic that has growth potential for them since a lot of these freaks weren't active voters before. And while trying to grow that audience, they'll rely on right-leaning moderates to keep coming home for the low taxes, etc. One of the CVON exchanges burned into my memory was HazeltonEagle saying how Trump botched covid response, resulting in death and economic harm - yet he was gonna vote Trump anyway on the off chance that Biden raised taxes in his income bracket (not $400k). So in that, I saw a person who could acknowledge that Trump was unfit to lead us through a crisis that reshaped our daily lives in a way we haven't seen since probably WW2...yet the thought of Biden raising taxes for two years, until punishing him in midterms (if it even happened) was just too much to bear. That's all you need to keep those people coming back to the polls. Don't underestimate the GOP. If there's growth potential in the loonies, they will cultivate, sow, and reap the loonies. All while hoping that his student loan debt would be cancelled
January 28, 20214 yr 56 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: All while hoping that his student loan debt would be cancelled Why ain’t those radical, liberal, leftist, socialist, dumbocrats sent me my stimulus check yet!!! Reeeeee!!!!!
January 28, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Thread cross-over here BOMBSHELL! I wonder when Cruz's arraignment for attempted murder is scheduled?
January 28, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Thread cross-over here Now THAT's a murder 7 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: BOMBSHELL! I wonder when Cruz's arraignment for attempted murder is scheduled? White knighting for KKKz and now Ted Cruz, eh?
January 28, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Now THAT's a murder White knighting for KKKz and now Ted Cruz, eh? Kind of a big thing to accuse someone of trying to murder you, is it not?
January 28, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Kind of a big thing to accuse someone of trying to murder you, is it not? Sure, but still pales in comparison to inciting a violent riot by lying to people for two months about a stolen election. What AOC said didn't hurt anything other than Ted Cruz's feelings. What Ted Cruz said partly led to the death of 5 people, and 60+ cops being maimed and injured
January 28, 20214 yr 57 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Sure, but still pales in comparison to inciting a violent riot by lying to people for two months about a stolen election. What AOC said didn't hurt anything other than Ted Cruz's feelings. What Ted Cruz said partly led to the death of 5 people, and 60+ cops being maimed and injured You people are psychotic. Anyhoo, because AOC is being ultra-dramatic about people entering a building, here's a flashback when she incited a terror attack against an ICE facility and refused to make a statement:
January 28, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: Now THAT's a murder White knighting for KKKz and now Ted Cruz, eh? Hate to see it I tell ya.
January 28, 20214 yr 47 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: OK sport lol, what do you even say to that psychotic episode of a post?
January 29, 20214 yr 18 hours ago, mikemack8 said: Kind of a big thing to accuse someone of trying to murder you, is it not? Meh, after Trump did it for the better part of a year it kind of lessened the impact.
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