12 minutes ago, mr_hunt said:

this is the blue checkmark all over again. trumpers can't defend the disgusting actions of cheeto & his insurrectionist mob so they laser-focus on one minute detail to deflect the conversation.  

it's classic trumpbot. 

Except Glen Greenwald is a proven Democracy Now liberal

His foot slipped off the pedal

He was scared and tried to flee

She died of a heart attack so it wasn't murder

 

Same scenario, same dumb F'ing idiots defending mentally ill psychos they identify with.

Wow, we're now arguing the officer sporadically died because.....? That suddenly negates the violence and destruction? You people are beyond stupid.

1 minute ago, Paul852 said:

Wow, we're now arguing the officer sporadically died because.....? That suddenly negates the violence and destruction? You people are beyond stupid.

We don't know why the officer died, except he was over 40 and probably asking for it.

But we don't know.

He wasn't killed because of any injuries though.

But we don't know.

Stupid librul.

6 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Wow, we're now arguing the officer sporadically died because.....? That suddenly negates the violence and destruction? You people are beyond stupid.

I don’t think we’d be here if your side didn’t try to first make this out to be the crime to end all crimes, worse than the holocaust 

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I don’t think we’d be here if your side didn’t try to first make this out to be the crime to end all crimes, worse than the holocaust 

Or without the side that, ya know, invaded the Capitol to stop  a democratic election. 

10 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Except Glen Greenwald is a proven Democracy Now liberal

While I agree that Democrats tend to be more patriotic than Republicans, people that hate America and defend terrorism come from all stripes.

6 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I don’t think we’d be here if your side didn’t try to first make this out to be the crime to end all crimes, worse than the holocaust 

nobody has said that. you just seem overly sensitive. 

What I’ve read says not the fire extinguisher and very possibly allergic reaction to the pepper spray. Unclear at this point. 

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

nobody has said that. you just seem overly sensitive. 

Actually you’re right, Schumer only said it was equal to pearl harbor

56 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

wow, thank you clearing that up for me, bro. 

 

seriously, i totally appreciate it. 

 

 

Your sarcasm is noted.  But the basis for it is not understood.  Am I wrong?

54 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Because it’s possible he died of a cause unrelated to the riot.  If he did, then he would be the only person who died who was not a part of the group causing the riot in the first place

Not significant in the grand scheme of things, in light of the hundreds of injuries to police (some serious); the attacks on police; the destruction of property, etc.

1 minute ago, caesar said:

Not significant in the grand scheme of things, in light of the hundreds of injuries to police (some serious); the attacks on police; the destruction of property, etc.

Which is itself insignificant in the grand scheme of all the attacks on police and the property damage since George Floyd 

14 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

What I’ve read says not the fire extinguisher and very possibly allergic reaction to the pepper spray. Unclear at this point. 

Are we forgetting that a guy ACTUALLY threw a fire extinguisher at a police officer while another rioter threw an officer over some type of ledge? This is all literally caught on video. Again, what are we even arguing here?

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Which is itself insignificant in the grand scheme of all the attacks on police and the property damage since George Floyd 

There it is.

52 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

If someone dies pulling a stunt they themselves decided to take, sad yes, outrage no

The outrage is the attack on the US Capitol in an effort to overturn an election, undermine democracy and avoid a peaceful transfer of power, which was spurred on by disinformation and lies for months by right-wing "leaders" who should know better.   That's the bottom-line outrage. The rest is collateral damage.

24 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

I don’t think we’d be here if your side didn’t try to first make this out to be the crime to end all crimes, worse than the holocaust 

WTF are you talking about. Regroup and come back when you have a position that makes sense.

9 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Which is itself insignificant in the grand scheme of all the attacks on police and the property damage since George Floyd 

Why are you comparing this to unrelated things?  The capitol riots were insignificant compared to the destruction during 9/11 too.  So what?  Its apples and oranges.  They are entirely different events.   

Capitol:  having to do with our electoral process and transfer of power and an attack on the very heart and inner sanctum of our government.     Floyd riots were not that.  Nice try to equate 2 different things though.  

Are you one of those people who believe Trump really won the election?   This nonsense of the OTHER SIDE does it too (see Floyd riots) is coming from the same places that spouted Trump really won drivel.   

Are you really that sad that you don't understand the difference between the friggin' PRESIDENT and his henchmen falsely claiming election fraud; riling up the base and eventually spurring on an attack on the very heart of a our government in an attempt to change the election results and keep a president in power.     

Floyd was anger at police over perceived unjustified police violence against blacks.  2 ENTIRELY SEPARATE THINGS - NOT RELATED AT ALL.  

It's what the capitol rioters were TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH and WHO lied to them for months to spur them on that makes it so horrific.   If you don't get that - -you don't understand how our gov't works.

Trying to stop or bring attention to police violence (however misguided) DOES NOT EQUAL trying to thwart an election, the transfer of power and the very basis for our democracy, with the encouragement and glee of the LEADER of the COUNTRY.

OMG are you that dumb?   

13 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Are we forgetting that a guy ACTUALLY threw a fire extinguisher at a police officer while another rioter threw an officer over some type of ledge? This is all literally caught on video. Again, what are we even arguing here?

No argument from me. Just relaying what I’ve read regarding what caused the officer to die.

17 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Which is itself insignificant in the grand scheme of all the attacks on police and the property damage since George Floyd 

That’s a stupid assertion. 

54 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

His foot slipped off the pedal

He was scared and tried to flee

She died of a heart attack so it wasn't murder

 

Same scenario, same dumb F'ing idiots defending mentally ill psychos they identify with.

True story -- I have a relative (old guy) who was grocery shopping in  Bala Cynwyd shopping center.  When returning to his car, 3 guys (one with a sawed off shotgun), forced him into his car and made him drive to an ATM and withdraw money.  They then dumped him on the side of the road a few miles away.    They didn't really touch him, but he shortly thereafter died of a heart attack (he had a heart condition).   This happened in 1980 -- 2 of the guys are still in jail -- for murder. 

6 minutes ago, caesar said:

True story -- I have a relative (old guy) who was grocery shopping in  Bala Cynwyd shopping center.  When returning to his car, 3 guys (one with a sawed off shotgun), forced him into his car and made him drive to an ATM and withdraw money.  They then dumped him on the side of the road a few miles away.    They didn't really touch him, but he shortly thereafter died of a heart attack (he had a heart condition).   This happened in 1980 -- 2 of the guys are still in jail -- for murder. 

Seventy Yard F-wad would say they meandered over to the ATM. 

Regardless that cop had it coming for not helping to stop the steal, right?

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Seventy Yard F-wad would say they meandered over to the ATM. 

Well that would be fine but 1) we don’t know if he died of a heart condition and 2) we don’t know maybe he died of bear spray whether if that might have been friendly fire from his own squad

17 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

That’s a stupid assertion. 

I guess if you’re a snowflake you might say that

3 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well that would be fine but 1) we don’t know if he died of a heart condition and 2) we don’t know maybe he died of bear spray whether if that might have been friendly fire from his own squad

I guess if you’re a snowflake you might say that

Maybe he died from Covid

2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Maybe he died from Covid

I’m surprised actually this wasn’t the first thing the media reported