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Consquences of Sedition and D-Baggery (still unlocked)

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8 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well that would be fine but 1) we don’t know if he died of a heart condition and 2) we don’t know maybe he died of bear spray whether if that might have been friendly fire from his own squad

I guess if you’re a snowflake you might say that

Yea, as you said. it's "50-50" that his death had anything to do with the violent insurrection he was defending against. Good one, you dumb F.

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I still don't understand what the point is here. That it's not as big of a deal because he died from pepper spray? Again, someone THREW A FIRE EXTINGUISHER into a group of police officers. That's probably a large reason why there was even this confusion in the first place.

I slowly stopped arguing with EagleVA after like two days because I started to suspect there was something wrong with him mentally. It just didn't feel right after a while. For some reason, I've indulged trumpbots for far longer despite the fact get they can be just as delusional, to go along with being sick and twisted. I can't imagine what causes someone to go down such a path in life, they truly do need some help.

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8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I still don't understand what the point is here. That it's not as big of a deal because he died from pepper spray? Again, someone THREW A FIRE EXTINGUISHER into a group of police officers. That's probably a large reason why there was even this confusion in the first place.

Stay with me, let me guide you through this:

If no one died at the hands of the Trump mob, then they were only meandering and all this kerfluffle is meaningless.

It isn't as if the 'meanderers' were there to stop the vote count and certification.

Duh.

11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yea, as you said. it's "50-50" that his death had anything to do with the violent insurrection he was defending against. Good one, you dumb F.

 

8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

I still don't understand what the point is here. That it's not as big of a deal because he died from pepper spray? Again, someone THREW A FIRE EXTINGUISHER into a group of police officers. That's probably a large reason why there was even this confusion in the first place.

There’s a big difference between dying because you were intentionally attacked and just dying incidental to the riot

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

 

There’s a big difference between dying because you were intentionally attacked and just dying incidental to the riot

But police officers were intentionally attacked. There are multiple videos showing this happening. So again....what's the point? That in your mind it's not as bad?

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

 

There’s a big difference between dying because you were intentionally attacked and just dying incidental to the riot

If someone dies during the course of a felony, the perpetrators can be (and often are) charged with felony murder.  It's not incidental in the eyes of the law.  

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

If someone dies during the course of a felony, the perpetrators can be (and often are) charged with felony murder.  It's not incidental in the eyes of the law.  

Well we still don’t know if he died incidental to the riot, and there are no suspects 

5 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well we still don’t know if he died incidental to the riot, and there are no suspects 

Again, it's not incidental in the eyes of the law, period.  When someone dies in the course of a felony, they are often charged with felony murder.  And if that person's a cop?  They never see the light of day.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Again, it's not incidental in the eyes of the law, period.  When someone dies in the course of a felony, they are often charged with felony murder.  And if that person's a cop?  They never see the light of day.

Well if we’re talking about "in the eyes of the law” who exactly gets the charge incidental to that death?  All 10,000 of them?  I don’t see that holding up

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well if we’re talking about "in the eyes of the law” who exactly gets the charge incidental to that death?  All 10,000 of them?  I don’t see that holding up

Anyone who entered the building was committing a felony.  And anyone who assaulted a cop was committing another felony.  You do the math.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Anyone who entered the building was committing a felony.  And anyone who assaulted a cop was committing another felony.  You do the math.

Yeah so you’re saying in the eyes of the law they’re going to charge tens or hundreds of people with that cops death? Even people who never came within hundreds of yards from him?

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Yeah so you’re saying in the eyes of the law they’re going to charge tens or hundreds of people with that cops death? Even people who never came within hundreds of yards from him?

I'm telling you they could be.  They were committing a felony and a cop died.  

But the fact that you seem surprised that there are consequences to trying to overthrow the government is kind of unbelievable.  

9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I'm telling you they could be.  They were committing a felony and a cop died.  

But the fact that you seem surprised that there are consequences to trying to overthrow the government is kind of unbelievable.  

Lol back to the old "overthrow the government” hysteria.  This is the very reason we have to bring up the facts of the case which you all then respond and say is merely quibbling

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Lol back to the old "overthrow the government” hysteria.  This is the very reason we have to bring up the facts of the case which you all then respond and say is merely quibbling

I realize this is a foreign concept to you, but some of us enjoy living in a representative democracy and we'd like to keep it that way.  And despite what you seem to think there should be severe consequences for people who commit acts of terrorism against our country.  Don't like it?  You're free to leave. 

Just now, VanHammersly said:

I realize this is a foreign concept to you, but some of us enjoy living in a representative democracy and we'd like to keep it that way.  And despite what you seem to think there should be severe consequences for people who commit acts of terrorism against our country.  Don't like it?  You're free to leave. 

Oh I’m fine with that, I just like to know my vote counts and I’d appreciate it if the other side didn’t riot every time a cop did his job busting criminals

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Oh I’m fine with that, I just like to know my vote counts and I’d appreciate it if the other side didn’t riot every time a cop did his job busting criminals

Yes, it's clear you're a champion for police officers.  That's why you've spent the last 3 pages frantically making excuses for a cop's death.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

Yes, it's clear you're a champion for police officers.  That's why you've spent the last 3 pages frantically making excuses for a cop's death.

Well if we find out he did in fact die from that riot then so be it, but nobody intentionally killed him.  Just to get the facts straight

1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well if we find out he did in fact die from that riot then so be it, but nobody intentionally killed him.  Just to get the facts straight

You're a psycho and I'm leaving work.  Have a good night!  Keep spinning for terrorists!

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

You're a psycho and I'm leaving work.  Have a good night!  Keep spinning for terrorists!

If the crime is as bad as you think, why do you feel the need to add made up stuff to the story?

2 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well that would be fine but 1) we don’t know if he died of a heart condition and 2) we don’t know maybe he died of bear spray whether if that might have been friendly fire from his own squad

I guess if you’re a snowflake you might say that

Arguing over how or why anyone died there is besides the point.   The point is - -it was a Presidential juiced up insurrection against Congress and the electoral process based on months of hogwash and lies.   That's the issue that apparently you fail to see for some reason.  

2 minutes ago, caesar said:

Arguing over how or why anyone died there is besides the point.   The point is - -it was a Presidential juiced up insurrection against Congress and the electoral process based on months of hogwash and lies.   That's the issue that apparently you fail to see for some reason.  

Opinions, not lies

opinions you don’t like

And I just wanted to make sure we got the facts straight.  I was never for thinking violence is "ok”

9 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

 

I guess if you’re a snowflake you might say that

Even a snowflake is right every once in a while. 

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12 hours ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well if we find out he did in fact die from that riot then so be it, but nobody intentionally killed him.  Just to get the facts straight

You keep pretending that we don't know how he died, which you follow up with something idiotic like:

nobody intentionally killed him

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Of the more than 230 people charged to date, at least 70 are now facing a minimum of one felony count — the most common is obstruction of Congress, which has a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. More than 30 are charged with assaulting or interfering with law enforcement officers, and at least 14 are charged with carrying or using a weapon that day. Weapons identified in the government’s court filings so far have included knives, Tasers, a hockey stick, a large metal pipe, baseball bats, fire extinguishers, and batons.

 

8 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

You keep pretending that we don't know how he died, which you follow up with something idiotic like:

nobody intentionally killed him

It's such a stupid position to take when there are videos of cops being beaten, crushed and thrown. Any one of those officers could have been killed "intentionally"

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