1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Well sorry I thought this was the sedition and d baggery thread 🤷‍♂️ 

 I guess we're just surprised a seditionist actually meandered in.

2 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

 I guess we're just surprised a seditionist actually meandered in.

He is not only a seditionist, but a seditionist who also happens to be a d-bag. He pretty much belongs in this thread.

1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

That’s how the country started?

Btw the left wing peaceful protests aren’t violent means of overthrowing government?

No, and no.

 

Learn a little history.

17 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

No, and no.

 

Learn a little history.

The country wasn’t founded at the barrel of a gun?

8 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

The country wasn’t founded at the barrel of a gun?

That there were guns involved doesn't mean it was founded with guns in mind. 

It's not the guns that made the America  experiment  a success (thus far). The American Revolution came about during the Enlightenment, and had at the apex of the pyramid of society learned men who believed that an egalitarian society that enabled the lowest borne to achieve greatness through his* own merits and fortitude would maximize the strength of a nation. They envisioned the closest thing to a meritocracy as the world had at the time. 

Such societies invite change and churn as technological advances results in entire industries turning over at regular intervals. Populism usually brings with it protectionism, and Trump's flavor is no different (or small minded) than what came before. Of course he had twitter and a particular kind of unearned machismo that turns some people on I guess. 

Anyway. The 2020 election being a catalyst for a flirtation with insurrection and coup-like behavior isn't going to be one that welcomes an evolution in our democratic republic. It was quite literally the result of an epic temper tantrum by Trump which was adopted by his followers because of their obsession with being the aggrieved supreme.

This of course despite incredible structural advantages that the Republican party has nationwide that allows them to compete and often dominate politically despite losing every national popular vote except one the last 30 odd years. This is a party out of touch living on lifelines from the electoral college and gerrymandering. Which makes their grievances all the more hollow.

 

* Purposeful pronoun.

4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

That there were guns involved doesn't mean it was founded with guns in mind. 

It's not the guns that made the America  experiment  a success (thus far). The American Revolution came about during the Enlightenment, and had at the apex of the pyramid of society learned men who believed that an egalitarian society that enabled the lowest borne to achieve greatness through his* own merits and fortitude would maximize the strength of a nation. They envisioned the closest thing to a meritocracy as the world had at the time. 

Such societies invite change and churn as technological advances results in entire industries turning over at regular intervals. Populism usually brings with it protectionism, and Trump's flavor is no different (or small minded) than what came before. Of course he had twitter and a particular kind of unearned machismo that turns some people on I guess. 

Anyway. The 2020 election being a catalyst for a flirtation with insurrection and coup-like behavior isn't going to be one that welcomes an evolution in our democratic republic. It was quite literally the result of an epic temper tantrum by Trump which was adopted by his followers because of their obsession with being the aggrieved supreme.

This of course despite incredible structural advantages that the Republican party has nationwide that allows them to compete and often dominate politically despite losing every national popular vote except one the last 30 odd years. This is a party out of touch living on lifelines from the electoral college and gerrymandering. Which makes their grievances all the more hollow.

 

* Purposeful pronoun.

Trumps temper tantrum was a direct result of the 2016 democrats inability to accept that election and their temper tantrum was the Russia hoax

the 2016 dem tantrum was a direct result of the racist and neocon wing of the Republican Party not accepting the Dems won their election

that 08 tantrum I’m sure was the result of a decades long failure in foreign policy and monetary policy done by the elites in both parties

it never seems to end

yes the founders had high minded ideas and there was a convention, but I would direct you to Spooner and "the constitution of no authority”.  With a large population there are invariably people who disagree and who would protest "but for” the barrel of a gun

1 hour ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

No you just like whipping up the mob to throw decapitated pigs heads to intimidate them into ruling how you like

^mental illness

No broad rejection of the 2016 results ever materialized among Democrats.

Yes, they believed Russia interfered by leveraging our own social media networks against Hillary, and ... they were right. 

But there was never any serious effort mounted that sought to overturn election results on some baseless assertion that Russia actually changed votes meant for Hillary to Trump. 

Attempting to equate the reaction of the Democratic party to 2016 and the Republican party to 2020 is just laughable. They're not even close. 

Sure, the left held marches and protests. But there wasn't a march on and violent invasion of the Capitol building during the vote count with the express goal of blocking the peaceful transfer of power to the rightful winner of the election. There weren't over 100 Democrats in Congress willing to obstruct the process and claim they were doing it "for America" (they were not, they were doing it for Trump or more likely their own political futures). 

It's absurd on its face. Republicans circa 2021 are ef'ing embarrassing.

Qboys mark your calendars.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/06/01/maggie-haberman-trump-telling-people-he-expects-to-be-reinstated-as-president-by-august/?sh=7d2d86267a76

4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

^mental illness

There’s pictures of this happening to the George Floyd jurrors

1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

No broad rejection of the 2016 results ever materialized among Democrats.

Yes, they believed Russia interfered by leveraging our own social media networks against Hillary, and ... they were right. 

But there was never any serious effort mounted that sought to overturn election results on some baseless assertion that Russia actually changed votes meant for Hillary to Trump. 

Attempting to equate the reaction of the Democratic party to 2016 and the Republican party to 2020 is just laughable. They're not even close. 

Sure, the left held marches and protests. But there wasn't a march on and violent invasion of the Capitol building during the vote count with the express goal of blocking the peaceful transfer of power to the rightful winner of the election. There weren't over 100 Democrats in Congress willing to obstruct the process and claim they were doing it "for America" (they were not, they were doing it for Trump or more likely their own political futures). 

It's absurd on its face. Republicans circa 2021 are ef'ing embarrassing.

Yes there was.  Instead of choosing challenging the election as their weapon, they sought impeachment 

2 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

There’s pictures of this happening to the George Floyd jurrors

Oh I see what this is.

Let me rephrase... You're still bummed that your guy got convicted? Maybe he should try not being so murdery in the future. Sorry for your loss, better luck next time! 

Just now, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Yes there was.  Instead of choosing challenging the election as their weapon, they sought impeachment 

The answer never seems to be "ok let’s just have a vote and may the best man win”.  It’s always "let’s try shady subversion tactics or speculative legal theories”

4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Yes there was.  Instead of choosing challenging the election as their weapon, they sought impeachment 

Trump committed impeachable offenses. If politics wasn't the issue, he would have been bounced from office.

4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

The answer never seems to be "ok let’s just have a vote and may the best man win”.  It’s always "let’s try shady subversion tactics or speculative legal theories”

If we just have a vote and let the best man win, Republicans would have to reinvent themselves to compete.

Which is saying something considering how much the left shoots itself in the face.

36 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said:

Trumps temper tantrum was a direct result of the 2016 democrats inability to accept that election and their temper tantrum was the Russia hoax

the 2016 dem tantrum was a direct result of the racist and neocon wing of the Republican Party not accepting the Dems won their election

that 08 tantrum I’m sure was the result of a decades long failure in foreign policy and monetary policy done by the elites in both parties

it never seems to end

yes the founders had high minded ideas and there was a convention, but I would direct you to Spooner and "the constitution of no authority”.  With a large population there are invariably people who disagree and who would protest "but for” the barrel of a gun

Disagree. He can't handle being the "loser". He had legal issues he feared. He was also grifting off the taxpayer and loved that he got all those perks for free. That's what the tantrum was about.

 

You are the exact type of person Trumps tactics target. Not too bright and a desire to be able to say you were "wronged". Put a set of horns on and you are the qanon shaman idiot.

On 5/30/2021 at 4:14 PM, Paul852 said:

Did Republicans loot and destroy property at the Capitol? Simple yes or no will suffice.

Don't forget the burning. 😁

On 5/30/2021 at 12:44 PM, Boogyman said:

Well I currently have zero problems. Life is great over my way. Winky winky extra winky.

Denial ain't a river in Egypt.

On 5/30/2021 at 5:23 PM, Boogyman said:

I bet you do. You probably also love the act, you traitorous dog. 

 

PS don't forget to send that donation in to your daddy. He needs you!

The British didn't think much of it either. 

4 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

 

Denial ain't a river in Egypt.

You're so damn stupid you can't even get these sayings right.

18 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

You're so damn stupid you can't even get these sayings right.

But not quite stupid enough to feel threatened by you on any level. 

3 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

But not quite stupid enough to feel threatened by you on any level. 

Glad you admit you're stupid. Well done.

8 minutes ago, Paul852 said:

Glad you admit you're stupid. Well done.

Yet you're as ignorant as ever. 

1 hour ago, lynched1 said:

Yet you're as ignorant as ever. 

Coming from the guy who doesn't know how calendars work. Yeah, that means a lot 

5 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

That there were guns involved doesn't mean it was founded with guns in mind. 

It's not the guns that made the America  experiment  a success (thus far). The American Revolution came about during the Enlightenment, and had at the apex of the pyramid of society learned men who believed that an egalitarian society that enabled the lowest borne to achieve greatness through his* own merits and fortitude would maximize the strength of a nation. They envisioned the closest thing to a meritocracy as the world had at the time. 

Such societies invite change and churn as technological advances results in entire industries turning over at regular intervals. Populism usually brings with it protectionism, and Trump's flavor is no different (or small minded) than what came before. Of course he had twitter and a particular kind of unearned machismo that turns some people on I guess. 

Anyway. The 2020 election being a catalyst for a flirtation with insurrection and coup-like behavior isn't going to be one that welcomes an evolution in our democratic republic. It was quite literally the result of an epic temper tantrum by Trump which was adopted by his followers because of their obsession with being the aggrieved supreme.

This of course despite incredible structural advantages that the Republican party has nationwide that allows them to compete and often dominate politically despite losing every national popular vote except one the last 30 odd years. This is a party out of touch living on lifelines from the electoral college and gerrymandering. Which makes their grievances all the more hollow.

 

* Purposeful pronoun.

 

5 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Oh I see what this is.

Let me rephrase... You're still bummed that your guy got convicted? Maybe he should try not being so murdery in the future. Sorry for your loss, better luck next time! 

 

4 hours ago, Boogyman said:

Disagree. He can't handle being the "loser". He had legal issues he feared. He was also grifting off the taxpayer and loved that he got all those perks for free. That's what the tantrum was about.

 

You are the exact type of person Trumps tactics target. Not too bright and a desire to be able to say you were "wronged". Put a set of horns on and you are the qanon shaman idiot.

 

1 hour ago, Paul852 said:

You're so damn stupid you can't even get these sayings right.

You guys are trying to rationalize with people who have completely lost ALL rationalization. There is no amount of facts or historical truths you can present them that will change their opinion that everything evil in the world is caused by Democrats. There is no longer a rational, real life, thought process with them.
 

They will cash an unemployment check on the way to the doctors office, paid for by Medicaid while cussing about the freeloading socialists ruining America. This illusion that all their problems are caused by socialist democrats has been fed to them by right wing, fascist propaganda for years and they don’t even know what socialism or fascism is... literally don’t know the definitions.

 Trump is a con man who grifts them for money, but the mentality of "trumpism” isn’t going anywhere. This is a real problem that is way beyond trump.

5 hours ago, lynched1 said:

 

Denial ain't a river in Egypt.

🙄

 

Wink

5 hours ago, lynched1 said:

But not quite stupid enough to feel threatened by you on any level. 

That's pretty edgy bro