DBW Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 Sources say they’re exploring the possibility of trading him. $22m dead cap and they’d eat some of his salary. you thinking what I’m thinking? Even swap for Carson? https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/news/jared-goff-rams-trade/oOtfqSzMRvOs%3famp=1 1
DBW Posted January 30, 2021 Author Posted January 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: God no. He's got an I.Q. of like 63. True but money wise they could make it an even deal and Carson isn’t exactly peyton manning IQ level. He’s more like Charlie manning (age 23 months) level.
PoconoDon Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Wow. On the surface the Lions won big...then you realize that they got Goff. 3
CaliEagle Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: Wow. On the surface the Lions won big...then you realize that they got Goff. It's a good deal for the Lions. They weren't going to do much this year anyway. So, even if Goff stinks, it ensures their own pick is in the top 10. 1
Mike030270 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 I never thought Stafford was worth that much. Wow 1 1
Madriver Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 There's hope for Wentz getting traded to some desperate team. The bar has been set. 1
CaliEagle Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I never thought Stafford was worth that much. Wow They definitely overpaid. At his age, I would've thought his value would've been a low first rounder and that would be the price in a competitive market. 2
eaglesfan0075 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, CaliEagle said: They definitely overpaid. At his age, I would've thought his value would've been a low first rounder and that would be the price in a competitive market. My guess would have been a 1st this year and a 2nd next year but not much more than that. Carson Palmer did get traded to the Raiders at a similar age for two 1st round picks, but even then people remarked that the Raiders overpaid.
CaliEagle Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, eaglesfan0075 said: My guess would have been a 1st this year and a 2nd next year but not much more than that. Carson Palmer did get traded to the Raiders at a similar age for two 1st round picks, but even then people remarked that the Raiders overpaid. Stafford puts up stats and he looks great in terms of arm strength and size, but he doesn't play well late in games. He isn't clutch. I can only think of one signature win that he has had when he was hurt and he went back in to throw the winning TD. He's had good WRs over the years: Megatron, Tate, Golladay, Jones, etc. The Lions are often in games, but late in the games they don't win. Some of that is definitely on Stafford. It's not like they are getting a guy who has a playoff pedigree. I think Goff has about a 4th round value and Stafford has a low first round value. So, maybe you assign another pick to the Lions to help take on Goff's salary and to deal with other teams competing with the trade. I would say a 1st and a 3rd. We are pretty close in terms of value. But, the Rams definitely overpaid. If they win the SB, then I will admit I'm wrong. I don't see that happening.
DBW Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: Carson to Houston for 6 first round picks, and jj watt, 1
DBW Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, CaliEagle said: They definitely overpaid. At his age, I would've thought his value would've been a low first rounder and that would be the price in a competitive market. When you think about it, Howie set the bar for this when he traded Bradford to move up and get wentz. Wizzard!
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 43 minutes ago, CaliEagle said: Stafford puts up stats and he looks great in terms of arm strength and size, but he doesn't play well late in games. He isn't clutch. I can only think of one signature win that he has had when he was hurt and he went back in to throw the winning TD. He's had good WRs over the years: Megatron, Tate, Golladay, Jones, etc. The Lions are often in games, but late in the games they don't win. Some of that is definitely on Stafford. It's not like they are getting a guy who has a playoff pedigree. I think Goff has about a 4th round value and Stafford has a low first round value. So, maybe you assign another pick to the Lions to help take on Goff's salary and to deal with other teams competing with the trade. I would say a 1st and a 3rd. We are pretty close in terms of value. But, the Rams definitely overpaid. If they win the SB, then I will admit I'm wrong. I don't see that happening. Stafford is in the top 10 all time in game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks.... 2
DBW Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Stafford is in the top 10 all time in game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks.... He has a career losing record. And Where does he rank in playoff wins? He’s 0-3 if you don’t feel like looking 3
CaliEagle Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, Bwestbrook36 said: Stafford is in the top 10 all time in game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks.... That surprises me, if that's true. I don't hardly remember any of those games. Maybe it's against other bottom feeding teams. I'm going to try to see if I can find a list to see the quality of opponents. 2
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, DBW said: Where does he rank in playoff wins? Who cares
Bwestbrook36 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, CaliEagle said: That surprises me, if that's true. I don't hardly remember any of those games. Maybe it's against other bottom feeding teams. I'm going to try to see if I can find a list to see the quality of opponents. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=StafMa00 Here have fun it's a lot of games to look through lol.
DBW Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said: Who cares 🤷🏻♂️ Just adding some tidbits to the convo. If you don’t care that fine.
Captain F Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Wtf. Well, I guess that sets the market for Watson @ A Starting QB, 3 first, and a 2nd?
RPeeteRules Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 It has to be a Osweiler type trade, that’s the only thing that would help make this trade make sense.
CaliEagle Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, What The F said: Wtf. Well, I guess that sets the market for Watson @ A Starting QB, 3 first, and a 2nd? The Texans are pretty stupid though. I mean they: allowed O'Brien to be a GM... traded Hopkins for an injury prone RB...didn't let their star QB have any input n the coach or GM search (even though they asked him)...and they hired David Culley as their HC. So, they might take less than they should for Watson. I do think the value for Watson should be equivalent to 4 first round picks. So, that could be a really good player and 3 first rounders or 4 first rounders or a combo of multiple players and first rounders that equal to around that value.
Fresh_Prince Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Hold your horses lads Wentz's value is more like Goff's and not like Stafford's. 2
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