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26 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Also, Trump cares far more about helping Putin by denying Ukraine funding than he does any domestic issue, border or otherwise. It’s why we see the MAGAts in here pretending to be peaceniks and crying about forever wars they don’t really give a crap about other than their compulsion to dutifully repeat whatever BS Trump tells them to.

Ukraine is going to lose. More funding will just prolong the inevitable and send more Ukrainian and Russian soldiers to the meat grinder. The only moral thing to do is to seek peace.

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30 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

read his post more carefully stunad.

I know "legal immigration" is something you frightened MAGAts have nightmares about, but it's also a big part of the issue. 

Right, dems want to create more "pathways to citizenship" and their bills are loaded with poison that does that. They want a never-ending stream of foreigners to enter the country. Republicans voters and some of their politicians don't want that hence the impasse. 

40 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Finally, that bill was passed entirely by Republicans - some of whom aren't even in Congress anymore - with absolutely no input from Democrats. You may see that as a "positive", but you're an idiot who has no clue about how representative government actually works. 

No sheet dems weren't involved, that's why it directly addressed the issues without any foreign aid handouts and other stupid crap like immediate access to work visas for border crossers like the amazing bipartisan bill. 

It's just an impasse. One side wants to import third world immigrants faster. The other side doesn't. There's not going to be a bipartisan solution when the sides are that far off. 

Remain in Mexico was a great policy immediately removed by Biden.

Why the hell would we need Mexicos permission for that?  They're the ones ushering these "asylum seekers" through the entire length of their country to the US.

Maybe if Mexico knew the door would be closed for these phony "asylum seekers" they would actually prevent the problem before it reaches our border.

 

The Democrats are so painfully wrong about immigration, its insane how juvenile and Pollyanna adults can actually be about the issue 

59 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Oh so a bill proposed less than a year ago didn't fall into your timeframe, got it. No, they haven't passed anything since then. Kind of pointless at this point, right? Dems will only vote for a bill loaded with foreign aid handouts and more funding so asylum claims can be processed faster. Republicans want less illegal and legal immigration. It's a complete impasse by both parties.

It's poinltess because the leader of the GOP has blatantly admitted anything getting passed would be a win for BIden. He literally took pride in saying the quiet part out loud.

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

Ukraine is going to lose. More funding will just prolong the inevitable and send more Ukrainian and Russian soldiers to the meat grinder. The only moral thing to do is to seek peace.

Just like Kyiv was going to fall in 3 weeks, amirite?

11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It's poinltess because the leader of the GOP has blatantly admitted anything getting passed would be a win for BIden. He literally took pride in saying the quiet part out loud.

Right, the two sides are diametrically opposed on the issue. If dems want to pass something, it's because the deal would be horrible for republicans. If republicans agreed to pass something favorable to them/their voters, it wouldn't stand a chance in hell of getting past dems. That's because one party wants third world immigrants and the other doesn't. It really is that straightforward. 

7 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Right, the two sides are diametrically opposed on the issue. If dems want to pass something, it's because the deal would be horrible for republicans. If republicans agreed to pass something favorable to them/their voters, it wouldn't stand a chance in hell of getting past dems. That's because one party wants third world immigrants and the other doesn't. It really is that straightforward. 

Right, keep pretending Trump had nothing to do with this getting shot down because he knows it hurts his chances for reelection. 

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Right, keep pretending Trump had nothing to do with this getting shot down because he knows it hurts his chances for reelection. 

Right, keep pretending republicans should agree to a bill that increases green cards, legal pathways to citizenship and helps dems process asylum claims quicker. Because after all, "it has everything Republicans want!" :roll: 

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Right, keep pretending republicans should agree to a bill that increases green cards, legal pathways to citizenship and helps dems process asylum claims quicker. Because after all, "it has everything Republicans want!" :roll: 

Four Republican Senators did agree to the bill and saw it as a reasonable compromise. Because they actually care about trying to address the issue and don't care if they might anger the orange manchild everyone else in their party is so afraid of.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Four Republican Senators did agree to the bill and saw it as a reasonable compromise. Because they actually care about trying to address the issue and don't care if they might anger the orange manchild everyone else in their party is so afraid of.

Four whole Republican Senators! Wow, it was so bipartisan! It's not like we can read the details and we know exactly what was in it. :lol: :roll: 

I know liberals are really stupid people, but talking about illegal immigration with them just takes it to another level. :lol: 

2 minutes ago, Kz! said:

we can read

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1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

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Ahh the gif response. Might as well be a white flag. Take the L, Napoleon. 

Just now, Kz! said:

Ahh the gif response. Might as well be a white flag. Take the L, Napoleon. 

Yep you really made an air-tight case that the GOP negotiated in good faith and isn't once again bowing at the feet of Dear Leader. :lol: 

The Republicans have been bleeding support since 2016. Every time they go more MAGA they lose more ground to Democrats.

2018 and 2020 were bloodbaths for them.

2022 should have been an absolute layup for Republicans to get strong majorities in the Senate and House, and they completely bungled it.

Yet these fools keep acting like they have public support and a mandate, refusing at every turn to work with Democrats to solve problems. Idiots like MTG and Chip Roy are holding the House hostage with their stupidity.

Even since 2022 the Republican advantage in the House has eroded to a couple seats. 

But they keep puffing their chests like they're the ones in charge.

It's laughable.

11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yep you really made an air-tight case that the GOP negotiated in good faith and isn't once again bowing at the feet of Dear Leader. :lol: 

I did, it's been explained to you why the deal was complete garbage, you're just too stupid to understand. I know, those four senate republicans, tho! :lol: 

5 minutes ago, Kz! said:

you're just too stupid to understand

:lol: We all can't be as smart as you, Kz

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

:lol: We all can't be as smart as you, Kz

He's a stable genius.

32 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Four Republican Senators did agree to the bill and saw it as a reasonable compromise. Because they actually care about trying to address the issue and don't care if they might anger the orange manchild everyone else in their party is so afraid of.

So, is that roughly 92% of Republican Senators that didn't see it as a reasonable compromise?  If so, I see your point.

1 minute ago, GreenReaper said:

So, is that roughly 92% of Republican Senators that didn't want to anger the incompetent criminal running for re-election see it as a reasonable compromise?  If so, I see your point.

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19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

:lol: We all can't be as smart as you, Kz

Clearly. You can't even articulate why the deal was a good one without repeating tv slogans "best deal they'll ever get" or "orangeman killed it on purpose." :lol: 

12 minutes ago, GreenReaper said:

So, is that roughly 92% of Republican Senators that didn't see it as a reasonable compromise?  If so, I see your point.

Dude, it was so bipartisan, though! Best deal ever, the tv said. :lol: 

12 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Dude, it was so bipartisan, though! Best deal ever, the tv said. :lol: 

I didn't realize it was so close but now that I realize it was 92% against and 8% for I see just how close it was.  We probably won't ever see another vote this close in my lifetime, this was one for the history books.

10 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

It's poinltess because the leader of the GOP has blatantly admitted anything getting passed would be a win for BIden. He literally took pride in saying the quiet part out loud.

Takes the bullet right out of your assault rifle when he does that. 😆

8 hours ago, Kz! said:

Clearly. You can't even articulate why the deal was a good one without repeating tv slogans "best deal they'll ever get" or "orangeman killed it on purpose." :lol: 

Not his lane.

Misspell a word in a post and you will see that motherFer shine though. 🤣

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