Interesting information on that guy.

There were over 60 million court cases heard last year in the US, clearly that’s too many. What are we supposed to do, actually give all these people a hearing? That’s ridiculous! Just send them to a prison in a foreign country, that’s obviously the practical solution.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

No, I'm not, but going round and round isn't going to change anything but waste our time. It was a constitutional crisis under Biden and you can say the team colors of Dallas are orange and red and it won't make it true ;)

But you are. SCOTUS ruled that his case must be handled as it would have had he not been sent to El Salvador. Well, had he not been sent to El Salvador, his case would have been handled by facing a deportation order in the US. Well, in order to comply with SCOTUS ruling then, he must be brought back to the US in order to have his case handled as it would have been had he not been sent to El Salvador.

13 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

But you are. SCOTUS ruled that his case must be handled as it would have had he not been sent to El Salvador. Well, had he not been sent to El Salvador, his case would have been handled by facing a deportation order in the US. Well, in order to comply with SCOTUS ruling then, he must be brought back to the US in order to have his case handled as it would have been had he not been sent to El Salvador.

We were talking about if it was a constitutional crisis under Biden

And no, that's not what they said. Facilitate his release means prison. No reason to say that if it was simply return him as it would be redundant. Just lik explaining this over and over. Also, there is wiggle room nothing can be done about because it is foreign affairs.

33 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

There were over 60 million court cases heard last year in the US, clearly that’s too many. What are we supposed to do, actually give all these people a hearing? That’s ridiculous! Just send them to a prison in a foreign country, that’s obviously the practical solution.

Damn right. Bye Felicia. Hell of a deterrent. Do it a few more times and self deportation will be a thing.

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24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We were talking about if it was a constitutional crisis under Biden

And no, that's not what they said. Facilitate his release means prison. No reason to say that if it was simply return him as it would be redundant. Just lik explaining this over and over. Also, there is wiggle room nothing can be done about because it is foreign affairs.

That is absolutely what they said and I already quoted their opinion verbatim that said that. So not only have you not read the opinion, but you haven’t even read the relevant parts that people have spoon fed you.

24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Damn right. Bye Felicia. Hell of a deterrent. Do it a few more times and self deportation will be a thing.

The point

Your head

I wasn’t talking about deportation cases. That 60+ million court cases is the number of cases handled by state courts, that’s criminal cases, civil cases, etc…. By the logic displayed here, the people charged with crimes shouldn’t be given their day in court because well that’s just too many cases to hear on an annual basis. To hell with due process and just send them to prison, right?

1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:

That is absolutely what they said and I already quoted their opinion verbatim that said that.

Which is an incorrect interpretation separate from release for a reason. How about I just say then do something about it then

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Which is an incorrect interpretation separate from release for a reason. How about I just say then do something about it then

lol what? What do you think is there to interpret from the statement "his case must be handled the way it would have been handled had he not been sent to El Salvador”. You can’t get more straight forward than that.

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

The point

Your head

I wasn’t talking about deportation cases. That 60+ million court cases is the number of cases handled by state courts, that’s criminal cases, civil cases, etc…. By the logic displayed here, the people charged with crimes shouldn’t be given their day in court because well that’s just too many cases to hear on an annual basis. To hell with due process and just send them to prison, right

Just now, Phillyterp85 said:

lol what? What do you think is there to interpret from the statement "his case must be handled the way it would have been handled had he not been sent to El Salvador”. You can’t get more straight forward than that.

At this point some of you believe what you want. Bottom line is Trump is in charge and as of today he isn't coming back and SCOTUS knows they can't even change that.

15 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

Remember when several of the pro Trump crowd in here pointed at SCOTUS and said "f these district judges, now if he does not comply with SCOTUS that would be a different thing". Well, here we are...

Looking at you @The Norseman and @Diehardfan and others

Here we are? Sounds like an interpretation issue the Supreme Court may have to clarify if there happens to be one.

Read anything new?

43 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

At this point some of you believe what you want. Bottom line is Trump is in charge and as of today he isn't coming back and SCOTUS knows they can't even change that.

Do you have a mirror in your house? I’m not "believing” anything, I’m reading what SCOTUS wrote. The only person here believing something is you.

28 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Do you have a mirror in your house? I’m not "believing” anything, I’m reading what SCOTUS wrote. The only person here believing something is you.

Lol even TNT agreed there is wiggle room and hell has frozen that we agree.

28 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Lol even TNT agreed there is wiggle room and hell has frozen that we agree.

There is wiggle room regarding how the administration can prove that they’ve done everything they can to bring him back.

There isn’t wiggle room in the very straight forward statement from SCOTUS that Garcia’s case must be handled in the way it should have been handled had he not been sent to El Salvador and that the act of sending him to El Salvador was illegal.

19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I’ll take extreme logical fallacies for $2,000 Alex!

CVON constitutionalists: "The government cannot add a regulation on guns. The 2nd amendment exists. It starts with limiting the size of magazines, then it goes to banning assault rifles, then handguns, and it’s a very quick slippery slope to banning guns all together and the government comes to your house to take your guns away”

Also CVON constitutionalists: "There’s nothing wrong with sending people to an El Salvadoran prison without due process. It only applies to illegal immigrants with violent criminal convictions. They’d never send people without criminal convictions there. And they’d definitely never widen the scope to include people with protection orders or people who are here on visas, and definitely it would never ever apply to American citizens. The government would never go down a slippery slope like that. That’s not how our government operates, they always keep their scopes as narrow as possible”

10 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I’ll take extreme logical fallacies for $2,000 Alex!

It's a good thing only one side of the culture war engages in this kind of rhetoric.

Whew!

Cause otherwise...

19 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

There is wiggle room regarding how the administration can prove that they’ve done everything they can to bring him back.

There isn’t wiggle room in the very straight forward statement from SCOTUS that Garcia’s case must be handled in the way it should have been handled had he not been sent to El Salvador and that the act of sending him to El Salvador was illegal.

Ok bud

Hahaha President T

8 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Ok bud

SCOTUS: Garcia’s case must be handled in the way it would have been handled had he never been sent to El Salvador.

Diehard: Yeah but guys, what do they really mean when they say this? There’s a lot of different ways to interpret this.

8 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Hahaha President T

Fighting with allies and making friends with dictators, greet work

42 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

SCOTUS: Garcia’s case must be handled in the way it would have been handled had he never been sent to El Salvador.

Diehard: Yeah but guys, what do they really mean when they say this? There’s a lot of different ways to interpret this.

The bottom line is that Diehard and many other people in the country do not actually care about the Constitution despite being people who have screamed about the Constitution for decades. The Constitution for them is not something that they understand or even aspire to understand. It is simply some abstract item that they refer to it when it suits their agenda because it sounds good to do so.

15 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

The bottom line is that Diehard and many other people in the country do not actually care about the Constitution despite being people who have screamed about the Constitution for decades. The Constitution for them is not something that they understand or even aspire to understand. It is simply some abstract item that they refer to it when it suits their agenda because it sounds good to do so.

Yup. Pure partisan hackary.