3 hours ago, lynched1 said:

That "logic" flows both ways.

Oh so you’re acknowledging that you guys are just as bad as the lefties that you claim superiority over. Well good for you then. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have a problem in the first place.

7 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

After years of watching Biden break the laws of the land by allowing them to flood across they suddenly care about the law.

ChatGPT how long will it take to deport 20 million illegals if every illegal is given due process

"Alright, let’s run the numbers again—this time with 20 million undocumented immigrants, all of whom are granted due process, which means immigration court hearings.

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Baseline Assumptions (same as before):

• Immigration court capacity per year: ~700,000 cases/year (with current ~750 judges)

• Total undocumented immigrants to process: 20,000,000

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Basic Estimate:

Years to process 20 million cases=20,000,000700,000≈28.6 years\text{Years to process 20 million cases} = \frac{20,000,000}{700,000} \approx 28.6 \text{ years}Years to process 20 million cases=700,00020,000,000≈28.6 years

So, approximately 29 years, if nothing changes—same number of judges, same resources, no change in laws, and assuming:

• No new undocumented immigrants arrive.

• No one wins asylum, cancellation of removal, or any relief (which isn't realistic—many do).

• No missed court dates or complications.

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Want to Play With the Numbers?

Here’s how the timeline changes with more immigration judges:

# of Judges	Cases/Year	Years to Process 20M
750 (current)	700,000	~29 years
1,500	1,400,000	~14.3 years
3,000	2,800,000	~7.1 years
5,000	4,600,000*	~4.35 years

*Assuming efficiency scales linearly, which it might not due to logistical, legal, and administrative limits.

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But Realistically?

Even with double or triple the judges, you’d still face:

• Appeals and continuances

• People being granted legal status during proceedings

• New undocumented arrivals

• Logistical constraints (detention space, transportation, legal counsel, etc.)

So in practice, you’re looking at decades, unless there’s a massive restructuring of the immigration system.

Want to explore how this changes if some people opt for voluntary departure or are given amnesty?"

This is what the Democrats want. Gallons of water is flooding into the boat and they want it removed by the teaspoon.

Didn’t Bill Clinton deport over 12 million illegal immigrants in 8 years? So why would it take 29 years to deport 20 million?

13 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Didn’t Bill Clinton deport over 12 million illegal immigrants in 8 years? So why would it take 29 years to deport 20 million?

Ask ChatGPT. Probably something to do with how Obama could deport 5 to 8 million because it was an era of bipartisan approval for doing so without all the obstacles and opposition.

19 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Oh so you’re acknowledging that you guys are just as bad as the lefties that you claim superiority over. Well good for you then. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have a problem in the first place.

You have a comprehesion problem.

No where in my post does it say that I don't consider myself superior.

Upcoming operating system?

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You can flood the country with tens of millions of illegal aliens, deliberately, in an attempt to structurally change the electorate and disenfranchise actual Americans, and do so with nothing but executive will… but you have to spend 30 years and billions of dollars to even try to deport them, and if you disagree you’re a fascist!

This is the level of retardation and naked bad faith of every single person voting Democrat.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Ask ChatGPT. Probably something to do with how Obama could deport 5 to 8 million because it was an era of bipartisan approval for doing so without all the obstacles and opposition.

The only obstacle in Trump’s way right now is a self inflicted obstacle because he tried to skirt the law.

The government has deported thousands upon thousands of people so far in 2025 with no issue.

The cases making the headlines involve a couple hundred people and don’t make a dent in the overall number of deportations.

18 minutes ago, TEW said:

You can flood the country with tens of millions of illegal aliens, deliberately, in an attempt to structurally change the electorate and disenfranchise actual Americans, and do so with nothing but executive will… but you have to spend 30 years and billions of dollars to even try to deport them, and if you disagree you’re a fascist!

This is the level of retardation and naked bad faith of every single person voting Democrat.

I love the theory that this is all some sort of elaborate plan to "change the electorate”. Been hearing that one for what 20+ years now? And yet the only time amnesty was granted to a large block of illegal immigrants, it was when a republican was president….

Why would it take 30 years to deport them? Is Trump a worse president at keeping the borders secure and the country sovereign than Obama?

21 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I love the theory that this is all some sort of elaborate plan to "change the electorate”. Been hearing that one for what 20+ years now? And yet the only time amnesty was granted to a large block of illegal immigrants, it was when a republican was president….

Why would it take 30 years to deport them? Is Trump a worse president at keeping the borders secure and the country sovereign than Obama?

Same cavalier attitude that Branch Covidians cling to.

10 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Same cavalier attitude that Branch Covidians cling to.

The Dems aren’t smart enough to pull off a move like that.

35 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

I love the theory that this is all some sort of elaborate plan to "change the electorate”. Been hearing that one for what 20+ years now? And yet the only time amnesty was granted to a large block of illegal immigrants, it was when a republican was president….

Why would it take 30 years to deport them? Is Trump a worse president at keeping the borders secure and the country sovereign than Obama?

Yes, the only time amnesty was granted is when the GOP acted in good faith, that it would be a one time deal and that the border would be shut. Republicans upheld their end, Democrats showed their true intentions, so it’s never going to happen again.

It’ll take decades because Biden and democrats do everything humanly possibly to flood the country with illegals and then delay any deportation as much as possible as a tactic to try to get to the next election where they hope to win and then flood the country yet again.

Everyone realizes this now. They don’t even try to hide it. In any sane society, these people would be put up against a wall and shot. But here we are in **** leftist clown world.

25 minutes ago, TEW said:

Yes, the only time amnesty was granted is when the GOP acted in good faith, that it would be a one time deal and that the border would be shut. Republicans upheld their end, Democrats showed their true intentions, so it’s never going to happen again.

It’ll take decades because Biden and democrats do everything humanly possibly to flood the country with illegals and then delay any deportation as much as possible as a tactic to try to get to the next election where they hope to win and then flood the country yet again.

Everyone realizes this now. They don’t even try to hide it. In any sane society, these people would be put up against a wall and shot. But here we are in **** leftist clown world.

Biden and the democrats are delaying deportations? Man that dementia patient Biden sure is something. Delaying deportations when he’s not even in the White House. Weird how thousands upon thousands of deportations have been going off without a problem. It’s only a couple hundred where there’s a delay where Trump decided he didn’t have to follow the law. And it was delayed by, *checks notes, Supreme Court justices appointed by Donald Trump.

3 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

The only obstacle in Trump’s way right now is a self inflicted obstacle because he tried to skirt the law.

The government has deported thousands upon thousands of people so far in 2025 with no issue.

The cases making the headlines involve a couple hundred people and don’t make a dent in the overall number of deportations.

His biggest obstacle is the same one it's always been which is his lack of laying things out in a way like Clinton would. He has good ideas but generally takes things too far and trolls vs making a clear case. Even with using the act people would generally be behind it if he layed out better. Some of you wouldn't and the radical judges would still obstruct, but I think many would. Ultimately, I see SCOTUS allowing it. We'll see.

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

His biggest obstacle is the same one it's always been which is his lack of laying things out in a way like Clinton would. He has good ideas but generally takes things too far and trolls vs making a clear case. Even with using the act people would generally be behind it if he layed out better. Some of you wouldn't and the radical judges would still obstruct, but I think many would. Ultimately, I see SCOTUS allowing it. We'll see.

"Laying it out better” has nothing to do with whether or not what he did was legal. I don’t know how the AEA case will play out, but what I do know is that even if the Supreme Court gives him the green light to use it to deport suspected members of Tren de Aragua, they still have to follow the proper process to do it.

3 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

His biggest obstacle is the same one it's always been which is his lack of laying things out in a way like Clinton would. He has good ideas but generally takes things too far and trolls vs making a clear case. Even with using the act people would generally be behind it if he layed out better. Some of you wouldn't and the radical judges would still obstruct, but I think many would. Ultimately, I see SCOTUS allowing it. We'll see.

I think you keep missing the point people in here are discussing with you. Our push back isn't about immigration or deporting people. It is about Trump and the WH following the law and the decisions of the Judiciary. I think everyone engaged with you here is for deporting undocumented aliens and also documented aliens who commit real crimes (i.e. not just a speeding ticket).

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

(i.e. not just a speeding ticket).

Speeding is a gateway crime. Just trying to get ahead of the curve.

4 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said:

Speeding is a gateway crime. Just trying to get ahead of the curve.

So is stupid posting

🙂

9 hours ago, TEW said:

You can flood the country with tens of millions of illegal aliens, deliberately, in an attempt to structurally change the electorate and disenfranchise actual Americans

Dumbest argument ever. Illegal immigrants cannot vote. Do you even hear yourself? MAGA sold you a boogeyman and bag of lies.

1 hour ago, toolg said:

Dumbest argument ever. Illegal immigrants cannot vote. Do you even hear yourself? MAGA sold you a boogeyman and bag of lies.

They can in some state elections.

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

I think you keep missing the point people in here are discussing with you. Our push back isn't about immigration or deporting people. It is about Trump and the WH following the law and the decisions of the Judiciary. I think everyone engaged with you here is for deporting undocumented aliens and also documented aliens who commit real crimes (i.e. not just a speeding ticket).

I get we disagree on the judiciary overstepping into the powers of the XO branch and pretty much everything else in regards to the procedures. I'm good with that.

22 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

They can in some state elections.

I get we disagree on the judiciary overstepping into the powers of the XO branch and pretty much everything else in regards to the procedures. I'm good with that.

Don’t think we disagree that there can be an overstep by some Judges. However, in the end of the day the WH and POTUS can’t defy the courts and certainly not SCOTUS. Do you agree with that?

2 hours ago, toolg said:

Dumbest argument ever. Illegal immigrants cannot vote. Do you even hear yourself? MAGA sold you a boogeyman and bag of lies.

As if the plan isn’t amnesty. As if tens of thousands of illegals haven’t been found registered to vote.

You aren’t fooling anyone.

I'm with Jefferson

30 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Don’t think we disagree that there can be an overstep by some Judges. However, in the end of the day the WH and POTUS can’t defy the courts and certainly not SCOTUS. Do you agree with that?

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I'm with Jefferson

Let's leave Levin out of this discussion. He's a full on radical.

Whether you/Jefferson like it or not, SCOTUS is the final arbiter of the Constitution and has been for 222 years. If you want to challenge that then fine you'd then have a full blown open Constitutional crisis. Which is your preference?