October 3, 20223 yr On 9/30/2022 at 7:14 PM, Tnt4philly said: We all came from the children of immigrants. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/07/11/opinion/immigrants-success-america.html I've been watching the new Ken Burns documentary, "America and The Holocaust". It talks about immigration quite a bit (mostly about how we wouldn't let Jews in when they were being persecuted and exterminated). Up until the 1920s we had completely open borders. My family got here in 1906 before they started restricting immigrants from Southern Europe. I suspect a lot of our families came over during that period of open borders.
October 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: I've been watching the new Ken Burns documentary, "America and The Holocaust". It talks about immigration quite a bit (mostly about how we wouldn't let Jews in when they were being persecuted and exterminated). Up until the 1920s we had completely open borders. My family got here in 1906 before they started restricting immigrants from Southern Europe. I suspect a lot of our families came over during that period of open borders. We started watching that series too. Pretty good so far. One branch of my family came here in 1727, the other three came here in the mid 1800’s.
October 3, 20223 yr TBC, I am not for completely open borders, but I do believe it should be easier to come here to work if you are not a criminal and have a job. Doesn’t even have to be permanent, circular migration would be mush easier if workers could come and go legally.
October 3, 20223 yr Woman who allegedly helped arrange migrant flights to Martha’s Vineyard identified by CNN as former Army counterintelligence agent Perla Huerta https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/marthas-vineyard-migrants-perla-huerta/index.html Perla Huerta. I don't suppose she is somehow an immigrant or child of immigrants?
October 3, 20223 yr ishlibs are still crying about Martha's Vineyard getting a little bit of color for around 48 hours lmao
October 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: We love our "safe and secure" elections, don't we, folks? Trump lost.
October 5, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Trump lost. And now the commies want non-citizens to vote lmao
October 5, 20223 yr 41 minutes ago, Kz! said: And now the commies want non-citizens to vote lmao Can China mail in a billion absentee ballots?
October 5, 20223 yr On 10/3/2022 at 12:26 PM, Toastrel said: Woman who allegedly helped arrange migrant flights to Martha’s Vineyard identified by CNN as former Army counterintelligence agent Perla Huerta https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/marthas-vineyard-migrants-perla-huerta/index.html Perla Huerta. I don't suppose she is somehow an immigrant or child of immigrants? Someone should explain the diffrences between Immigration and Illegal immigration to some. Because some on the left think these are synonomous terms.
October 5, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: Someone should explain the diffrences between Immigration and Illegal immigration to some. Because some on the left think these are synonomous terms. Can it be you explaining the differences? You're my intellectual hero!
October 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: We love our "safe and secure" elections, don't we, folks? I think some states or cities already have this, but only for local elections.
October 5, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Can it be you explaining the differences? You're my intellectual hero! I should be- since I am not the one who confuses or conflates the two... That would be you.
October 5, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Ipiggles said: Someone should explain the diffrences between Immigration and Illegal immigration to some. Because some on the left think these are synonomous terms. The people that were shipped to MV are here legally seeking asylum.
October 5, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Ipiggles said: I should be- since I am not the one who confuses or conflates the two... That would be you. So... you can't explain them?
October 5, 20223 yr On 10/3/2022 at 12:09 PM, Tnt4philly said: TBC, I am not for completely open borders, but I do believe it should be easier to come here to work if you are not a criminal and have a job. Doesn’t even have to be permanent, circular migration would be mush easier if workers could come and go legally. Why would tbey go back?
October 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: Why would tbey go back? Because they can. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2016/04/20/tighter-enforcement-along-us-mexico-border-backfired-researchers-find
October 6, 20223 yr 31 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Because they can. https://www.princeton.edu/news/2016/04/20/tighter-enforcement-along-us-mexico-border-backfired-researchers-find To visit and take money out of the country? Hardly a benefit to us
October 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said: To visit and take money out of the country? Hardly a benefit to us Studies show that migrant workers send about 15% of what they earn back home to their home country, 85% stays. They would be paying payroll taxes on their income as well as spending money in the local economies they work in. Even if they sent half of the money back home, the the half spend here doesn’t exist if the job is vacant.
October 6, 20223 yr 21 hours ago, Talkingbirds said: I think some states or cities already have this, but only for local elections. And in DC what else do they have to vote for? They don't have senators or electoral votes.
October 6, 20223 yr 56 minutes ago, Gannan said: And in DC what else do they have to vote for? They don't have senators or electoral votes. In Presidential elections they do. The District of Columbia is a political division coterminous with Washington, D.C., the capital city of the United States.[1] Since the enactment of the 23rd amendment to the Constitution in 1961,[2] it has participated in 15 presidential elections. The amendment states that the district cannot have more electoral votes than the state with the smallest number of electors.[3] Since then, it has been allocated three electoral votes in every presidential election.[4] In each of the 15 presidential elections, it has overwhelmingly voted for the Democratic Party candidate, with no margin less than 56.5 percentage points. It has been won by the losing candidate in 8 of the 15 elections
October 6, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: In Presidential elections they do. The District of Columbia is a political division coterminous with Washington, D.C., the capital city of the United States.[1] Since the enactment of the 23rd amendment to the Constitution in 1961,[2] it has participated in 15 presidential elections. The amendment states that the district cannot have more electoral votes than the state with the smallest number of electors.[3] Since then, it has been allocated three electoral votes in every presidential election.[4] In each of the 15 presidential elections, it has overwhelmingly voted for the Democratic Party candidate, with no margin less than 56.5 percentage points. It has been won by the losing candidate in 8 of the 15 elections And federal elections are governed by federal law which makes citizenship a requirement to vote. DC can't change that for the Presidential election. Only local.
October 6, 20223 yr On 10/5/2022 at 11:34 AM, Kz! said: And now the commies want non-citizens to vote lmao nothing new here really. Non citizens have been allowed to vote in many local and even some state elections for quite sometime. Up about 1900 or so, states allowed, anyone, who was an adult male, to vote regardless of citizenship.
October 31, 20222 yr Border Crime Wave Is Just a Right-Wing Fantasy https://www.thedailybeast.com/border-crime-wave-is-just-a-right-wing-fantasy Quote As fearmongers depict the southern border as a region made lawless by invading hordes, Police Chief Victor Rodriguez of McAllen, Texas, has presided over a 12th straight year of crime reduction. "We’re working on the 13th,” he told The Daily Beast on Friday. In fact, crime in his border city of 145,000 is at the lowest level going back to 1985 when stats began to be accurately recorded. "And the only reason it’s only 37 years is that’s what's on the books,” he said. Imagine being so pathetic that this is your fantasy.
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