November 18, 20222 yr 21 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: No, I’m literally arguing to make legal immigration/migration/ work visa easier so that there is less incentive to come here illegally. I believe that it should be easier for anyone, who is not a criminal, to come here and work legally if there is a job here for them, period. Yeah, so like I said, you are advocating to make illegal immigration legal.
November 18, 20222 yr 8 minutes ago, TEW said: Yeah, so like I said, you are advocating to make illegal immigration legal. If putting it that way makes you feel better then go with it. I am also in favor of making illegal drug use legal.
November 18, 20222 yr 6 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: If putting it that way makes you feel better then go with it. I am also in favor of making illegal drug use legal. Do you agree with Schumer and think that amnesty should be granted?
November 18, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, GreenReaper said: Do you agree with Schumer and think that amnesty should be granted? I don’t know his exact position, but what to do with illegals that are already here is a tough problem to deal with. It wouldn’t be the first time they were given amnesty. I’m not for across the board amnesty.
November 19, 20222 yr 14 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: If putting it that way makes you feel better then go with it. Yes, factual reality makes me feel better. Quote I am also in favor of making illegal drug use legal. See, basic logic isn’t so hard! In principle, I actually agree! However, on both olfactory and aesthetic grounds, I support the death penalty for marijuana. 13 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: I don’t know his exact position, but what to do with illegals that are already here is a tough problem to deal with. It wouldn’t be the first time they were given amnesty. I’m not for across the board amnesty. On a serious note, amnesty was originally granted with the understanding of "never again.” And it’s really not a tough problem to deal with — this is a basic incentive structure issue. This constant, "well OK you can stay but no more,” only for every would be illegal alien to see this rightly as weakness has to stop. Illegals need to be ostracized, totally. No drivers license, no kids in schools, no medical care, no public benefits, any state or local officials who aid them get thrown in jail, any employer knowingly giving work get thrown in jail, any illegal gets immediately thrown in jail, and so on. Right now it is almost zero risk to be here illegally and the reward is high for both the illegal and anyone interacting with them. That script needs to be flipped.
November 19, 20222 yr A path to citizenship would be more acceptable than outright amnesty. Go thru vetting process, have a probationary period(2yrs) to prove you can support yourself and have clean criminal record. Cost and implementation of program would be difficult for some to get on board. So I don’t see anything happening, but the status quo.
November 19, 20222 yr 28 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: A path to citizenship would be more acceptable than outright amnesty. Go thru vetting process, have a probationary period(2yrs) to prove you can support yourself and have clean criminal record. Cost and implementation of program would be difficult for some to get on board. So I don’t see anything happening, but the status quo. As long as they need to spend as much as I spent to have my wife in this country I’m ok with it.
November 19, 20222 yr 11 hours ago, TEW said: Yes, factual reality makes me feel better. See, basic logic isn’t so hard! Except that I never argued that anyone should be able to come here illegally. What does basic logic call "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument?”
December 14, 20222 yr On 11/19/2022 at 5:05 PM, Tnt4philly said: Except that I never argued that anyone should be able to come here illegally. What does basic logic call "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument?” Something that you clearly had to google and copy and paste to make this point?
December 14, 20222 yr lol looks like *squints* Gavin Newsome is getting into the MAGA conspiracy theory that illegals are putting an intense strain on the system. But the geniuses in CVON told me this was just a right wing fantasy...
December 14, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: Something that you clearly had to google and copy and paste to make this point? Yes, I had to look up the text book definition of a straw man argument instead of relying on my memory. It’s says a lot that you think that is a problem. Maybe a tweet of the definition is more your speed.
December 14, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, Ed Beans said: No me gusta a esto hilo. que es lo que no te gusta
December 14, 20222 yr 9 minutes ago, Ed Beans said: No me gusta a esto hilo. 2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: que es lo que no te gusta
December 15, 20222 yr 15 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: Yes, I had to look up the text book definition of a straw man argument instead of relying on my memory. It’s says a lot that you think that is a problem. Maybe a tweet of the definition is more your speed. It's not a problem. You're just a dope who got owned in an argument and had to google basic definitions to save face.
December 15, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: It's not a problem. You're just a dope who got owned in an argument and had to google basic definitions to save face. That discussion was almost a month ago. Move on bigot.
December 15, 20222 yr 54 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: That discussion was almost a month ago. Move on bigot. lol soylib's go to. But yeah, just read it yesterday, thought it was hilarious that you had to google a definition because you're a complete moron.
December 15, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: lol soylib's go to. But yeah, just read it yesterday, thought it was hilarious that you had to google a definition because you're a complete moron. I think it’s hilarious you think looking ish up is a weakness. Maybe I should have posted a tweet of the definition or Tucker Carlson’s opinion on what a straw man is.
December 15, 20222 yr 10 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I think it’s hilarious you think looking ish up is a weakness. Maybe I should have posted a tweet of the definition or Tucker Carlson’s opinion on what a straw man is. It's not a "weakness." Not knowing basic definitions is just an indication that you are a complete moron.
December 15, 20222 yr 20 hours ago, Kz! said: lol looks like *squints* Gavin Newsome is getting into the MAGA conspiracy theory that illegals are putting an intense strain on the system. But the geniuses in CVON told me this was just a right wing fantasy... The red states need to keep flooding them. Dump any homeless on them as well. This is the country they want and they should get it good and hard.
December 15, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: It's not a "weakness." Not knowing basic definitions is just an indication that you are a complete moron. Says the guy who doesn’t know the difference in the meaning of a word and it’s definition.
December 22, 20222 yr Are we punishing employers who hire illegal immigrants and pay them cash yet? No? So we still have an illegal immigration problem…
December 22, 20222 yr 27 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: Are we punishing employers who hire illegal immigrants and pay them cash yet? No? So we still have an illegal immigration problem… I’m all in favor of that, but that’s not the problem. The problem is that the left wants, encourages, and incentivizes them coming here. We could end it tomorrow if we wanted — immediate deportation if you’re here illegally, with swift enforcement, and it would stop. But they don’t want it to stop. In fact, they want more of it.
December 22, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, DaEagles4Life said: Per this poll https://harvardharrispoll.com/key-results-december/ Serious question: are asylum seekers, regardless of the abuse of the asylum system, considered "illegal immigrants" in this poll?
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