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18 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

The way I look at it, this is a valid topic to discuss, no matter what a person's views on it are and there shouldn't be efforts to squelch that discussion. Now if people were advocating violence, that's different. But the topic itself is valid and needs to be discussed. 

TEW has some border wall design suggestions that may interest you...:whistle:

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  • It's not that complicated to figure out what needs to be done, but neither side is willing to do them. 1. End all benefits for Illegals -- no more drivers licenses, no welfare, no Obamacare, etc.

  • The border has been a catastrophe for 20+ years now, and seemingly no one in Washington is willing to actually address the problems. Republicans talk tough and use 7th century solutions (and still som

  • LOL. You idiots let your wives have political opinions. 

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1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

TEW has some border wall design suggestions that may interest you...:whistle:

"I'm not saying that's what should happen, all I'm saying is that the only way I can keep an erection is if I personally witness CBP agents mow down hundreds of brown people trying to cross the border!"

Imagine how stupid you have to be to be a liberal. Holy sheet. 

You can't solve a problem until you identify what the problem is.

Is illegal immigration the problem? Or is it a political football we just kick around to attack the other party?

Liberals are so insanely uninformed on the subject, it's actually pretty hilarious to watch. Unless the TV tells them what to think, they can't formulate an opinion on anything.

Migrant crisis plunges Denver's main public hospital deep into the red after patients received $130 MILLION of treatments they were unable to pay for

  • Denver's main hospital has provided care worth $136 million that they have no received compensation for, putting the institute at a 'critical' stage
  • A total of 8,000 migrants who came to the city from Central America have made around 20,000 visits to the health system, causing problems for Denver Health
  • These included trips for dental emergencies, mental health counseling and childbirth 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12976873/Denver-migrant-crisis-hospitals-critical-funding.html

2 hours ago, Talkingbirds said:

Migrant crisis plunges Denver's main public hospital deep into the red after patients received $130 MILLION of treatments they were unable to pay for

  • Denver's main hospital has provided care worth $136 million that they have no received compensation for, putting the institute at a 'critical' stage
  • A total of 8,000 migrants who came to the city from Central America have made around 20,000 visits to the health system, causing problems for Denver Health
  • These included trips for dental emergencies, mental health counseling and childbirth 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12976873/Denver-migrant-crisis-hospitals-critical-funding.html

Sure illegal immigrants are an insane drain on public resources, but have you considered the food?

Republicans don't want a border deal... because it's just political theater.

 

7 minutes ago, toolg said:

Republicans don't want a border deal... because it's just political theater.

 

The "border deal" that's been proposed doesn't secure the border, it's just a ton of funding for legalizing "migrants" quicker. There really should be no compromise on this subject by republicans. Either Biden caves and we get actual border security or let the crisis continue so dems' stupidity can be on full display so that even the most brainwashed lemmings have to acknowledge what abject failures they are. 

lfg Texas!

54 minutes ago, Kz! said:

The "border deal" that's been proposed doesn't secure the border, it's just a ton of funding for legalizing "migrants" quicker. There really should be no compromise on this subject by republicans. Either Biden caves and we get actual border security or let the crisis continue so dems' stupidity can be on full display so that even the most brainwashed lemmings have to acknowledge what abject failures they are. 

There is no border solution until illegal immigration is solved. We can't keep dumping money to secure the border when we can't figure out what to do with the people who keep showing up there.

Face it. America is desirable. We have jobs. Immigrants want to fill them. We have to figure this part out. Otherwise we're just building a dam against a flood that will tear it down.

11 minutes ago, toolg said:

There is no border solution until illegal immigration is solved. We can't keep dumping money to secure the border when we can't figure out what to do with the people who keep showing up there.

Face it. America is desirable. We have jobs. Immigrants want to fill them. We have to figure this part out. Otherwise we're just building a dam against a flood that will tear it down.

Trump may have a solution to this too though.  If he turns the country into an undesirable, autocratic sheethole in economic ruin then people may not want to come here.  4-D chess.

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

Trump may have a solution to this too though.  If he turns the country into an undesirable, autocratic sheethole in economic ruin then people may not want to come here.  4-D chess.

Really. That's about all he's come up with. Turn America into something worse than Venezuela, the Venezuelans will turn around and go home!

2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Trump may have a solution to this too though.  If he turns the country into an undesirable, autocratic sheethole in economic ruin then people may not want to come here.  4-D chess.

actually, trump is hoping all of that happens in the next twelve months, because he doesn't want to be the next hoover. 

2 hours ago, toolg said:

There is no border solution until illegal immigration is solved. We can't keep dumping money to secure the border when we can't figure out what to do with the people who keep showing up there.

Face it. America is desirable. We have jobs. Immigrants want to fill them. We have to figure this part out. Otherwise we're just building a dam against a flood that will tear it down.

It's not difficult to solve. Physical barriers to keep people out, ending retarded asylum claims, aggressive pursuit and deportation, ending birthright citizenship, stiffer penalties for hiring iillegals. All of which could be achieved for a fraction of the cost we pay now for housing and providing healthcare etc.

23 hours ago, toolg said:

You can't solve a problem until you identify what the problem is.

Is illegal immigration the problem? Or is it a political football we just kick around to attack the other party?

Well when I post it's been going on for Decades, (i.e. under both party Presidents) TEW is Quick to remind me illegal immigration is all the Democrats fault. Sounds pretty political to me. In his mind illegal immigration will only be solved when then number of illegals is brought to Zero. Only one party is interested in comprehensive immigration reform. And it's not the Republicans. Border Security, Border Security. Republicans won't allow Biden to even provide more funds for border security. Political Football at it's best.

47 minutes ago, Kz! said:

It's not difficult to solve. Physical barriers to keep people out, ending retarded asylum claims, aggressive pursuit and deportation, ending birthright citizenship, stiffer penalties for hiring iillegals. All of which could be achieved for a fraction of the cost we pay now for housing and providing healthcare etc.

Totally nonsense.

Just now, toolg said:

Totally nonsense.

And Trump accomplished none of that even with both houses for two years anyway. He talked a lot about it and made no effort to accomplish anything. 

2 hours ago, toolg said:

Totally nonsense.

Which of those things would be difficult to accomplish?

1 hour ago, Boogyman said:

And Trump accomplished none of that even with both houses for two years anyway. He talked a lot about it and made no effort to accomplish anything. 

Trump had a lot of successful border policies that Biden ended, leading to the unmitigated disaster we see now. He was also denied a border wall because DC is one big uniparty completely beholden to the donor class. 

RIP, Lucy.

 

6 minutes ago, Kz! said:

RIP, Lucy.

 

Sadly, this is the world the left wants us to live in.  Millions of Americans have died just of Covid under Biden's leadership, not to mention the record setting number of mass shootings.  Even stories like this won't stop the average Dem voter from pulling that lever to the left - they're simply too stupid to know any better.  

5 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Sadly, this is the world the left wants us to live in.  Millions of Americans have died just of Covid under Biden's leadership, not to mention the record setting number of mass shootings.  Even stories like this won't stop the average Dem voter from pulling that lever to the left - they're simply too stupid to know any better.  

Sure, you can't walk down the street quietly without having your dog stabbed to death by an African migrant, but think of the food!

19 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Sure, you can't walk down the street quietly without having your dog stabbed to death by an African migrant, but think of the food!

My dog was stabbed this morning and then I went and got another dog around lunchtime and then that dog was stabbed in the early afternoon.   It's getting out of hand.

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7 hours ago, toolg said:

There is no border solution until illegal immigration is solved. We can't keep dumping money to secure the border when we can't figure out what to do with the people who keep showing up there.

Face it. America is desirable. We have jobs. Immigrants want to fill them. We have to figure this part out. Otherwise we're just building a dam against a flood that will tear it down.

We have it figured out. It’s called deportation, where when they come here illegally, they are sent home.

But Democrats and leftist activists and organizations prevent this. They fight deportation at every turn, literally spending money — both private and public — to prevent it. They even go so far as using federal agencies to let illegals in and to stop state agents from preventing illegals from entering our country.

Yes, the US is a desirable place to live. And if you want that to continue you need to kick every single person who comes here illegally out of the country, immediately, and with prejudice. They should be prevented from ever entering the country legally again, their property should be confiscated, and if they are caught here again sentenced to forced labor building a border wall that would make the ones in Palestine look weak and pathetic.

But we won’t do that. Because democrats exist.

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