Oh, he's a "libertarian" because he wants crack to be legal, right?

Kz seems to be taking TNT being a libertarian pretty hard.

The actual LP Platform on Immigration:

Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.

Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.

A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.

Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.

Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.

Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.

 

Most Biden supporters are in some ways libertarian. We've already established that Biden is the most libertarian president ever. 

Glad Texas is giving the Biden admin a huge middle finger here. 

Not really sure how the Biden admin trying to force Texas to help facilitate mass illegal immigration fits into the idea that Biden is somehow just as tough on illegal immigration as Trump was, but we are dealing with a cult of the dumbest people on earth. 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

So what was the excuse when Republicans had two years with full control of congress and the white house? Was Trump a secret undercover Democrat because he wasn't deporting as many people as he should've, meanwhile Obama was an undercover Republican?

Democrats literally fought every single attempt at securing the border and every single deportation effort at every level.

Are you really going to pretend that Democratic mayors and governors didn’t create "sanctuary” cities and states to prevent recording crimes by illegals to ICE? Are you really going to pretend that leftist political groups and NGOs didn’t engage in lawfare to prevent and delay deportations?

Are you really this dishonest or uninformed (rhetorical question)?

6 minutes ago, TEW said:

Are you really this dishonest or uninformed (rhetorical question)?

Ooh, Mr. Rose colored glasses is back, and he still blames everything on the left.

Why this is NEWS!!!

PS - anyone as one-sided as you has no business calling anyone else dishonest or uninformed. You have your answer before a question is asked.

It is your faith.

20 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Kz seems to be taking TNT being a libertarian pretty hard.

They seem to be having a problem with the LP platform as well. It’s almost like they never read it before. 

11 minutes ago, TEW said:

Democrats literally fought every single attempt at securing the border and every single deportation effort at every level.

Are you really going to pretend that Democratic mayors and governors didn’t create "sanctuary” cities and states to prevent recording crimes by illegals to ICE? Are you really going to pretend that leftist political groups and NGOs didn’t engage in lawfare to prevent and delay deportations?

Are you really this dishonest or uninformed (rhetorical question)?

Oh ok, so he was an undercover Democrat and Obama was an undercover Republican. Noted.

2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

They seem to be having a problem with the LP platform as well. 

Weird mf'er brings up libertarianism so much you'd think he'd want to read the actual party's platform.

Nothing against the Libertarian Party, but honestly, the fact that Trump supporters could ever call themselves libertarians tells me it's probably time to retire small L libertarianism across the board.  The word has no meaning.

23 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Ooh, Mr. Rose colored glasses is back, and he still blames everything on the left.

Why this is NEWS!!!

PS - anyone as one-sided as you has no business calling anyone else dishonest or uninformed. You have your answer before a question is asked.

It is your faith.

It's hilarious how stupid liberals are. Every couple of weeks there's an insane story about the Biden admin intentionally facilitating mass illegal immigration like this:

On 1/4/2024 at 12:25 PM, TEW said:

 

 Liberals rarely acknowledge it. A couple of weeks go by, and then they go back to posting "herrdurr well both sides are to blame." They have the attention spans and intelligence of the average housefly.  

22 hours ago, Kz! said:

RIP, Lucy.

 

I do not support the death penalty

 

 

 

EXCEPT for this MFer. Anyone who hurts a dog needs to die immediately.

27 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I do not support the death penalty

 

 

 

EXCEPT for this MFer. Anyone who hurts a dog needs to die immediately.

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

Weird mf'er brings up libertarianism so much you'd think he'd want to read the actual party's platform.

Nothing against the Libertarian Party, but honestly, the fact that Trump supporters could ever call themselves libertarians tells me it's probably time to retire small L libertarianism across the board.  The word has no meaning.

I agree. It’s why I left the party in any official capacity. 

1 hour ago, Toastrel said:

Ooh, Mr. Rose colored glasses is back, and he still blames everything on the left.

Why this is NEWS!!!

PS - anyone as one-sided as you has no business calling anyone else dishonest or uninformed. You have your answer before a question is asked.

It is your faith.

 

Yeah, the Democratic Party, which is currently suing the state of Texas in order to allow illegal aliens into the country isn’t the problem.  

19 minutes ago, TEW said:

 

Yeah, the Democratic Party, which is currently suing the state of Texas in order to allow illegal aliens into the country isn’t the problem.  

Guess we'll have to see what the courts say about whether Texas' actions run afoul of national asylum laws. Or are the courts just filled with a bunch of psyop agents for the democrats too?

36 minutes ago, TEW said:

 

Yeah, the Democratic Party, which is currently suing the state of Texas in order to allow illegal aliens into the country isn’t the problem.  

It is a problem. There are others you would be able to perceive, if only you would allow yourself.

 

 

TEW and a hippie folk musician I know think this is the way to go. Strafe the border with A10s. Make a death zone a mile wide.

3 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

The actual LP Platform on Immigration:

Libertarians believe that people should be able to travel freely as long as they are peaceful. We welcome immigrants who come seeking a better life. The vast majority of immigrants are very peaceful and highly productive.

Indeed, the United States is a country of immigrants, of all backgrounds and walks of life…some families have just been here for more generations than others. Newcomers bring great vitality to our society.

A truly free market requires the free movement of people, not just products and ideas.

Whether they are from India or Mexico, whether they have advanced degrees or very little education, immigrants have one great thing in common: they bravely left their familiar surroundings in search of a better life. Many are fleeing extreme poverty and violence and are searching for a free and safe place to try to build their lives. We respect and admire their courage and are proud that they see the United States as a place of freedom, stability, and prosperity.

Of course, if someone has a record of violence, credible plans for violence, or acts violently, then Libertarians support blocking their entry, deporting, and/or prosecuting and imprisoning them, depending on the offense.

Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.

 

Libertarians, however, do not welcome migrants who are coming to sponge off of the welfare state.  Critical fact you decided to omit.

1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Guess we'll have to see what the courts say about whether Texas' actions run afoul of national asylum laws. Or are the courts just filled with a bunch of psyop agents for the democrats too?

"Asylum" from what???

They're crossing multiple countries to claim specific "asylum" in America.  Probably because they know there are people like you willing to be intentionally stupid to "own the Trumpbots"

19 minutes ago, Procus said:

Libertarians, however, do not welcome migrants who are coming to sponge off of the welfare state.  Critical fact you decided to omit.

 I didn’t omit sheet.  I simply copied and pasted the immigration policy from the LP platform. You should check out the part of their platform about omissions. It’s almost like they wrote it for you. 

Libertarians are pretty much against welfare altogether. I am not totally against welfare, but I don’t believe non-citizens should be able to receive it. Build a wall around welfare, not the country.
 

 

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

"Asylum" from what???

They're crossing multiple countries to claim specific "asylum" in America.  Probably because they know there are people like you willing to be intentionally stupid to "own the Trumpbots"

Whether they were denied due process is not for me to decide. I'm not an immigration court judge, nor am I their lawyer. Go take it up with them, dumb ass.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Whether they were denied due process is not for me to decide. I'm not an immigration court judge, nor am I their lawyer. Go take it up with them, dumb ass.

Your post is nothing more than this dip ish liberal idea of every single immigrant claiming asylum to circumvent immigration law. You're a disgusting liberal ish poster

Thankfully Trump ended that BS charade:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remain_in_Mexico#:~:text=Administered by the Department of,%2C 2022%2C in Biden v.

 

Of course Biden wanted to immediately get rid of it because Democrats don't give two ishs about illegal immigration.

All these "asylum seekers" can take their arses right back to Mexico. 

18 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Your post is nothing more than this dip ish liberal idea of every single immigrant claiming asylum to circumvent immigration law. You're a disgusting liberal ish poster

So if the courts rule against Texas, they're dip ish liberals too? What about if it goes all the way to to the SCOTUS and they agree, they're disgusting liberals too, Mike?