January 28, 20241 yr 23 hours ago, Mike31mt said: The Dems are purposefully encouraging illegal immigration. You can't be taken seriously on this topic if you don't acknowledge that fact. Anything else, about jobs or hiring or taxes, is an absolute nonstarter. Enforce immigration law. Only then can we entertain nuanced discussion about what immigrants do when they come here in a controlled and LEGAL fashion Did you know it is part of US and international law (from Geneva convention 😂) to not deny asylum seekers or refugees? Did you know it is the job of the executive branch (president) to ensure existing laws are enforced? Did you know it is the job of the legislative branch (Congress) to write new laws or make changes to existing laws? Until you understand the above you cannot be taken seriously… on really anything.
January 28, 20241 yr The border’s wide open a half mile from where they’ve staged their pretend border lockdown. Tell me again that this isn’t a publicity stunt.
January 28, 20241 yr On 1/27/2024 at 6:22 AM, Toastrel said: Tell us how to secure the US border, Mr. Genius? It isn't economically feasible. We don't inspect more than 5% of ship cargo coming to US ports. We're not going to wall in America. The idea is idiotic. You can close off America at an impossible price, or you can make the companies who hire illegals, pay more that the cost of hiring legals. I can't believe you lunatics who want a bomb a dead man's land at the border, and machine gun women and children as if this were East Berlin. There is something wrong with you. Shooting illegals who are invading our country would work. It would be THE most effective thing and would be a net positive for human life. A mandatory 10 year hard manual labor sentence would be very effective as well. Come here illegally and you are going to do back breaking work ten hours per day for the next decade. Immediate deportation with a seizure of all property and an enormous monetary penalty would also work. Come here illegally and you are going to owe the US government for the rest of your life. You will never be able to open a bank account again without having your funds seized. Lots of options. This idea that the only effective thing to be done is to go after businesses is laughably stupid.
January 28, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: The border’s wide open a half mile from where they’ve staged their pretend border lockdown. Tell me again why this is a publicity stunt. Only those amongst us with genetically elevated levels of testosterone and pretty, boy band faces have the courage to sh17 their own pants every day thinking about the dangers at the border.
January 28, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, TEW said: Shooting illegals who are invading our country would work. It would be THE most effective thing and would be a net positive for human life. A mandatory 10 year hard manual labor sentence would be very effective as well. Come here illegally and you are going to do back breaking work ten hours per day for the next decade. Immediate deportation with a seizure of all property and an enormous monetary penalty would also work. Come here illegally and you are going to owe the US government for the rest of your life. You will never be able to open a bank account again without having your funds seized. Lots of options. This idea that the only effective thing to be done is to go after businesses is laughably stupid. ^This dude is like a recurring character in an SNL skit.
January 28, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, TEW said: Shooting illegals who are invading our country would work. It would be THE most effective thing and would be a net positive for human life. A mandatory 10 year hard manual labor sentence would be very effective as well. Come here illegally and you are going to do back breaking work ten hours per day for the next decade. Immediate deportation with a seizure of all property and an enormous monetary penalty would also work. Come here illegally and you are going to owe the US government for the rest of your life. You will never be able to open a bank account again without having your funds seized. Lots of options. This idea that the only effective thing to be done is to go after businesses is laughably stupid. Call your members of congress and have them draft the bill and see if it passes, that’s how it works here in America. At the very least, if it makes it to a vote, we’ll all know who’s a true fascist and who’s not.
January 28, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, MidMoFo said: Did you know it is part of US and international law (from Geneva convention 😂) to not deny asylum seekers or refugees? Did you know it is the job of the executive branch (president) to ensure existing laws are enforced? Did you know it is the job of the legislative branch (Congress) to write new laws or make changes to existing laws? Until you understand the above you cannot be taken seriously… on really anything. All this "asylum" nonsense is absolute phony baloney BS, and its exactly why the Dems are disingenuous scum. I understand it perfectly, it's the Democrat strategy to import illegal immigrants from 3rd world latin American countries in the hopes that they vote solid Dem. How the hell do you cross thousands of miles of other countries to claim asylum specifically in the US? If you're post is actually serious you are far beyond a useful idiot.
January 28, 20241 yr 42 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: All this "asylum" nonsense is absolute phony baloney BS, and its exactly why the Dems are disingenuous scum. I understand it perfectly, it's the Democrat strategy to import illegal immigrants from 3rd world latin American countries in the hopes that they vote solid Dem. How the hell do you cross thousands of miles of other countries to claim asylum specifically in the US? If you're post is actually serious you are far beyond a useful idiot. It’s the current law. Write your representatives in congress. Hold them accountable.
January 28, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: It’s the current law. Write your representatives in congress. Hold them accountable. Trump made it law that they take their arses back to Mexico and wait for their sham "asylum court" Guess what Biden did as soon as he got into office? And here we are back to my original point--the Dems are encouraging and supporting illegal immigration because of politics. Scum.
January 28, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Trump made it law that they take their arses back to Mexico and wait for their sham "asylum court" Guess what Biden did as soon as he got into office? And here we are back to my original point--the Dems are encouraging and supporting illegal immigration because of politics. Scum. I get it, you want a dictator. I don’t. Why can’t congress do their job? The asylum law has been in place since 1980. Executive orders are not laws, btw.
January 28, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, MidMoFo said: Did you know it is part of US and international law (from Geneva convention 😂) to not deny asylum seekers or refugees? Did you know it is the job of the executive branch (president) to ensure existing laws are enforced? Did you know it is the job of the legislative branch (Congress) to write new laws or make changes to existing laws? Until you understand the above you cannot be taken seriously… on really anything. Illegally entering the country and then claiming asylum when caught isn’t how the asylum process works.
January 28, 20241 yr 54 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: I get it, you want a dictator. I don’t. Why can’t congress do their job? The asylum law has been in place since 1980. Executive orders are not laws, btw. Yeah youve got nothing. What does this have to do with being a dictator? Nothing. Blaming it on Congress because Biden and the Dems are blatantly pro-illegal immigration is pathetic.
January 28, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah youve got nothing. What does this have to do with being a dictator? Nothing. Blaming it on Congress because Biden and the Dems are blatantly pro-illegal immigration is pathetic. Yeah, ok. Just how the constitution is set up to create laws… that’s all. Just the most basic understanding of how our government is designed. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68118823.amp
January 28, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Illegally entering the country and then claiming asylum when caught isn’t how the asylum process works. Who said it was?
January 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, MidMoFo said: Yeah, ok. Just how the constitution is set up to create laws… that’s all. Just the most basic understanding of how our government is designed. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68118823.amp Laughable. Then why did he reverse the "stay in Mexico" policy and literally ignore the border until election season.
January 29, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Laughable. Then why did he reverse the "stay in Mexico" policy and literally ignore the border until election season.
January 29, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, MidMoFo said: Call your members of congress and have them draft the bill and see if it passes, that’s how it works here in America. At the very least, if it makes it to a vote, we’ll all know who’s a true fascist and who’s not. "Fascism is when you punish illegal aliens.”
January 29, 20241 yr 22 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: Oh, Joe Biden said things in an election year? I guess that negates his actual actions during the course of his entire presidency.
January 29, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, TEW said: Oh, Joe Biden said things in an election year? I guess that negates his actual actions during the course of his entire presidency. I guess republicans could call his "bluff” and you know… pass an immigration reform bill instead of throwing an infant temper tantrum. Wouldn’t that be something?
January 29, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, TEW said: Oh, Joe Biden said things in an election year? I guess that negates his actual actions during the course of his entire presidency. Much like the guy that said he would build a wall and Mexico would pay for it.
January 29, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, MidMoFo said: Did you know it is part of US and international law (from Geneva convention 😂) to not deny asylum seekers or refugees? Did you know it is the job of the executive branch (president) to ensure existing laws are enforced? Did you know it is the job of the legislative branch (Congress) to write new laws or make changes to existing laws? Until you understand the above you cannot be taken seriously… on really anything. 1. Those coming in through the Southern border are neither asylum seekers or refugees 2. Correct. And the executive branch is not enforcing existing laws. 3. Correct. Although there are no new laws that need to be written to protect the Southern border.
January 29, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, barho said: Much like the guy that said he would build a wall and Mexico would pay for it. So you're saying the problem on the Southern border was as bad under Trump as it is today?
January 29, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Procus said: 1. Those coming in through the Southern border are neither asylum seekers or refugees 2. Correct. And the executive branch is not enforcing existing laws. 3. Correct. Although there are no new laws that need to be written to protect the Southern border. What are they then? https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum#:~:text=To apply for asylum affirmatively,on affirmative and defensive filings. "You may only file this application if you are physically present in the United States, and you are not a U.S. citizen.”
January 29, 20241 yr 38 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: What are they then? https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum#:~:text=To apply for asylum affirmatively,on affirmative and defensive filings. "You may only file this application if you are physically present in the United States, and you are not a U.S. citizen.” Persons who illegally entered the country. For alien to establish that he is "refugee,” as required to obtain asylum under Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), he must prove either that he has been victim of persecution in past, or that he has well-founded fear of future persecution on account of his race, religion, nationality, membership in particular social group, or political opinion. Prela v. Ashcroft, 394 F.3d 515 (7th Cir. 2005)
January 29, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, Procus said: Persons who illegally entered the country. For alien to establish that he is "refugee,” as required to obtain asylum under Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), he must prove either that he has been victim of persecution in past, or that he has well-founded fear of future persecution on account of his race, religion, nationality, membership in particular social group, or political opinion. Prela v. Ashcroft, 394 F.3d 515 (7th Cir. 2005) "Ladies and gentlemen of the j-j-j-ju-jury…”
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