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2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

When's the last time we've seen a legislated tax policy that wasn't? 

1915?

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BREAKING: Local Childless Man is Against Child Tax Credit 

5 hours ago, Boogyman said:

:ph34r:

 

4 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

Its from the famous meme…

thanks for confirming my point

Get a brain!

 

5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

Get a brain!

 

Still no clue what famous meme it's from

I'm curious what @TEWthinks of the child tax credit. Seems like you hate taxes, but are worried about continued population growth. 

21 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Still no clue what famous meme it's from

Moran.

5 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

I'm curious what @TEWthinks of the child tax credit. Seems like you hate taxes, but are worried about continued population growth. 

I would say birth rates are too low, not too high. I’m not a Malthusian. We have an inverted pyramid for our population age and it’s a problem.

That said, I don’t think the government should be playing social engineering games with the tax code. I want to get rid of the entire tax code and replace it with one flat sales tax.

EDIT:

There are more effective ways to increase birth rates and increase family formation. There are also better ways to make parenthood more affordable. The former doesn’t even really involve money — it’s more a social phenomenon. 

 

 

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The border convoy is fighting itself.

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Did I hear that right? Did he actually say "Pedestrians have the right of way"? :roll: 

Also nice to see Mike made the drive down all the way from West Virginia

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Haha, so they released details of the amazing bipartisan "fix everything at the border" bill and no one is even talking about it. 

To summarize the bill, sheetlibs and board libertarians look completely retarded (again). :lol: 

:roll: :roll: :roll: 

15 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Haha, so they released details of the amazing bipartisan "fix everything at the border" bill and no one is even talking about it. 

To summarize the bill, sheetlibs and board libertarians look completely retarded (again). :lol: 

Yeah I mean if David Sacks says so, that should be good enough. He did pay $5 for a blue check mark.

4 hours ago, Toastrel said:

The border convoy is fighting itself.

:roll:

its the hatfields vs the mccoys all over again !

52 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Yeah I mean if David Sacks says so, that should be good enough. He did pay $5 for a blue check mark.

You don't trust the South African Autist Mafia?

Goofy 'God's Army' convoy on Texas border shows Trump's MAGA movement is just one long con

https://www.yahoo.com/news/goofy-gods-army-convoy-texas-172018391.html

It’s time for non-brainwashed Americans and the media at large to accept something: former President Donald Trump’s "MAGA movement” is a tissue-paper tiger.

This was on vivid display in Texas over the weekend. A much-ballyhooed convoy of MAGA patriots descended on a town near the southern border, ostensibly ready to protect America from what right-wing politicians like Gov. Greg Abbott cynically, dangerously and falsely call "an invasion.”

The "God’s Army” convoy was supposed to be a mighty force of 700,000 or more people from every corner of America. It wound up being maybe a couple hundred vehicles parked at a rural ranch in Quemado, Texas – basically a Trump rally without a Trump, but with plenty of hucksters selling MAGA merch and grifting the easily grifted.

 

Convoy-goer Misty Gregory told CNN: "It’s not what I expected, but then again I don’t know what I expected. I can tell you it’s not as bad as what I thought, so that’s kind of eye opening in itself.”

 

"We are constantly being told that we’re being invaded, and that never felt true until today, when the convoy came to town in anticipation of the Governors’ event,” Jessie F. Fuentes of Eagle Pass told WOAI Channel 4. "This is political theater by outsiders. The reality is that it has brought dangerous, violent groups into our beautiful, peaceful city. Eagle Pass is safer than most cities in America if you look at crime statistics. This is just a fact. We don’t appreciate these staged events that dramatically misrepresent our reality on the border and that invite extremist groups that pose a real danger to people in our community.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/05/biden-bipartisan-immigration-deal-00139558

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Detention

Immigration and Customs Enforcement would get almost $8 billion in emergency funding, rivaling the agency’s regular annual budget of about $9 billion. The emergency funding would include more than $3 billion for increased detention capacity.

Asylum

The plan would set a goal of speeding up the review of asylum claims, striving to let no cases last more than six months — often by allowing asylum officers to close out a claim rather than going through immigration courts. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services would get nearly $4 billion to help shoulder that new workload, including for hiring more than 4,300 asylum officers.

The measure would require asylum seekers to show greater proof to seek refuge in the U.S. and would ensure they are allowed a lawyer if they are facing rapid deportation. All unaccompanied children under 14 years old would also be granted lawyers during removal proceedings, covered by an infusion of $350 million for the Department of Health and Human Services.

Immigrant advocates quickly panned the proposal, with the ACLU arguing that it would "eviscerate” longstanding protections, and the National Immigrant Justice Center stressing that it would make asylum "largely un-obtainable for those who are permitted to request it at ports of entry.”

‘Border shutdown’

The bill would force the Department of Homeland Security to shutter the border if daily illegal crossings top 5,000 migrants on average or 8,500 in a single day. Unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada wouldn’t count toward that total.

The administration could only reopen the border if encounters of illegal crossings drop to 75 percent of the number that initially triggered the closure.

DHS would also have the power to shut down the border if crossings average more than 4,000 a day for a week, and Biden has signaled he would aggressively use that authority.

During a "border shutdown,” many people trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border would be quickly deported. But exceptions would be made for unaccompanied minors and people who meet the requirements of the United Nations Convention Against Torture rules.

Ports of entry

DHS would still consider asylum requests from people crossing at legal ports of entry during those periods of "border shutdown” — just not in between those ports. Officials would have to process at least 1,400 asylum requests per day under those terms.

Local support

$1.4 billion would be disbursed to help states and local governments handle the influx of immigrants. In New York alone, Gov. Kathy Hochul earlier this month proposed spending $2.4 billion to provide services to migrants in her annual budget.

Border wall

The bill would force the Biden administration to use money already laid out for border barriers on the kind of steel fencing that Trump boasted during his tenure. That "bollard”-style border wall is supposed to be 18 to 30 feet high, with "anti-dig” and "anti-climb” features.

Afghan nationals

Permanent residency would be offered to Afghans who fled their home country and received special immigrant visas following the withdrawal of U.S. forces in 2021. It would also allow Afghans who are considered U.S. allies to be deemed refugees and entitled to special State Department protections or immediate removal from Afghanistan.

Special immigrant status would also be offered to Afghans who are an immediate relative of a U.S. military member or veteran. Up to 2,500 special immigrant visas would be offered a year, for a total of up to 10,000.

Visas

The deal would free up 250,000 new visas over half a decade for people seeking to work in the U.S. or to join family members. It would offer work authorization to the children and spouses of people who have H-1B visas for specialized jobs that often require a bachelor’s degree, like tech and engineering work.

Immigrants awaiting visas would also be eligible for work if they have a U.S. citizen spouse or fiancé, or if their parent is the spouse or fiancé of a U.S. citizen.

Countering fentanyl

Folded into the border security deal is legislation aimed at beefing up anti-money laundering policies and sanctions, known as the Fend Off Fentanyl Act.

The Drug Enforcement Administration would receive more than $23 million to disrupt and disband Mexican cartels trafficking fentanyl across the southern border. And the State Department and USAID would see about $25 million for programs aimed at curbing the flow of the drug into the U.S.

‘Documented Dreamers’

Advocates and some Democrats quickly slammed the lack of relief or pathways to citizenship for so-called Dreamers, or undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children. There’s also no new citizenship path for farm workers or other long-time residents who work in essential jobs.

The legislation does, however, aim to provide a pathway to citizenship for "Documented Dreamers,” or children who accompanied their parents on a work visa and who could potentially lose their place in line for a green card at age 21.

Work permits

Immigrants who apply for asylum could be eligible to work in the U.S. while they wait.

Border Patrol

Customs and Border Protection would get nearly $7 billion in emergency funding, a massive infusion above its current yearly budget of about $21 billion. That extra funding would include $723 million would cover increased hiring of Border Patrol agents and overtime pay.

The bill would also give DHS more flexibility in hiring Border Patrol agents and create yearly training requirements for non-lethal force, protecting due process and preserving civil and human rights.

 

Wow, still no discussion over the amazing bipartisan fix all the border problems forever bill that Biden just can't stop illegal immigration without? It's weird because usually CVON is such a great place for information on this topic and there are a lot of really knowledgeable posters who were saying it was Republicans fault the border wasn't fixed because they didn't want to give Biden a win.

Well anyway, looks like the right was correct again. The bill is a huge dumpster fire of a disaster.

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A little too late.  Just posted the breakdown of the border part of the bill.

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