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11 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

Fox News also takes advantage of headline readers who don’t read the entire story. 

According to the legal filing, St. Johns County Sheriff's Office Sgt. Michael Kunovich, who died as a result of the incident, and Lt. Jose Jimenez, another responding deputy, acted inappropriately in mistreating the migrant with multiple violations of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the Florida Times-Union reported.

The lawyers specifically claim Aguilar Mendez’s limited ability to speak or understand English and Spanish constituted a disability. They allege he was also denied an interpreter at the scene and at the Sheriff’s Office, which would have allowed him to understand his Miranda rights.

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17 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

:lol: People all over the world desperately want to come here right now because they know liberals are retarded and will literally give them money just because they are illegal immigrants 

Sad but true 

14 hours ago, Gannan said:

Remember when you Trumptards said the wall (paid for by Mexico) would stop all illegal immigartion once and for all?

Then remember when we all laughed at you and said that a wall wouldn't stop anyone?

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A wall would be incredibly beneficial for very obvious reasons. Of course it wouldn't stop all illegal "immigartion."

14 hours ago, Gannan said:

Torturing children was effective. So would TEW's suggestion of simply shooting them or herding them into gas chambers when they try to cross.

Male liberals really are stupid.

2 hours ago, Kz! said:

A wall would be incredibly beneficial for very obvious reasons. Of course it wouldn't stop all illegal "immigartion."

Male liberals really are stupid.

Would have been :lol:

47 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Would have been :lol:

It's too bad someone who was good at deals wasn't president at the time.

FFS, I wasted money putting a fence around my entire back yard when just a few panels on one side would have kept my dog in. 
 

15 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

FFS, I wasted money putting a fence around my entire back yard when just a few panels on one side would have kept my dog in. 
 

Why would you put a fence up, apparently they don't work anyway.

4 minutes ago, GreenReaper said:

Why would you put a fence up, apparently they don't work anyway.

They work great for keeping dogs inside your property. Are you retarded?

22 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

The Farm Bureau estimates that the farm workforce is short around 2.4 million workers a year, but the morons would rather farms go out of business than let the brown people work/run the.  

Or… hear me out… wages might increase to entice actual Americans to become farmers. And then farmers would become wealthy. And then the standard of living of farmers would increase. And then lots of people would want to become farmers.

Libertarians used to believe in things like supply and demand and equilibrium wages before the movement got flooded with morons.

11 minutes ago, GreenReaper said:

Why would you put a fence up, apparently they don't work anyway.

Putting a few 100 miles of fence along a 1900 mile border is what doesn’t work too well. 

17 minutes ago, TEW said:

Or… hear me out… wages might increase to entice actual Americans to become farmers. And then farmers would become wealthy. And then the standard of living of farmers would increase. And then lots of people would want to become farmers.

Libertarians used to believe in things like supply and demand and equilibrium wages before the movement got flooded with morons.

You can’t be this dumb? 

13 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:

You can’t be this dumb? 

you're new around here i see, welcome to the forum. 

Nothing says free trade like the government restricting the labor pool. 😂

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

Nothing says free trade like the government restricting the labor pool. 😂

"Government restricting the labor pool,” otherwise known as national sovereignty, borders, and citizenship. :lol: 

 

4 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

You can’t be this dumb? 

Explain precisely how it is dumb. Do you reject the concept of market equilibrium in wages?

Biden gets another one....

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1 hour ago, TEW said:

Explain precisely how it is dumb.

It's not dumb from a "this is how free markets work in a vacuum" standpoint. You're absolutely right there. It's just dumb from a reality standpoint.

Yes, what's holding back young workers from clamoring to work on farms is ... wages.

:facepalm:

When the only tool you have is a hammer.....

 

Farming in this country has always depended on immigrant and migrant labor. 

Oh the concept of market equilibrium of wages? Not sure why nobody thought of that yet, but we really should give it a try, I bet it'll close that 2.4M worker gap in no time! We need more of these big-brain 90th percentile IQ ideas to fix all the problems we're seeing. 


Average wages for farmhands in the US is around $16/hr based on a cursory Google search. 

Let's say locking down the border and kicking out all the non-citizen migrants forces farms to double the salary. Even triple it. 

And let's say for argument's sake that all these Americans clamoring for menial jobs at good wages decide to move out to the Midwest and forgo other options like plumbing and carpentry that likewise are facing a labor shortage and wouldn't typically require the kind of physical and cultural dislocation becoming a farm worker does. :rolleyes:

What happens then? Cost of producing cash crops rises. Cost of US grown food rises. Soybean exports to China crash. 

But hey, at least we kept the beaners out right?

2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:


Average wages for farmhands in the US is around $16/hr based on a cursory Google search. 

Let's say locking down the border and kicking out all the non-citizen migrants forces farms to double the salary. Even triple it. 

And let's say for argument's sake that all these Americans clamoring for menial jobs at good wages decide to move out to the Midwest and forgo other options like plumbing and carpentry that likewise are facing a labor shortage and wouldn't typically require the kind of physical and cultural dislocation becoming a farm worker does. :rolleyes:

What happens then? Cost of producing cash crops rises. Cost of US grown food rises. Soybean exports to China crash. 

But hey, at least we kept the beaners out right?

Stop being so mean to the farm hands, they just want to be paid a livable wage! 

I'm not familiar enough with what a farmhand does to know how automation would play into things. So much of modern farming is automated not to a high degree, but wage pressures may create a market for further automation.

It's funny to see the same folks who claim higher minimum wages will exacerbate cause job loss to automation when fast food workers are the subject, but wage inflation to "give Americans the jobs migrants are taking" is just sound policy 😆

You’re all too late…

The massive majority of farmland in the Midwest is for feed crops/grains which is already harvested by equipment (automated).

Most fresh produce, that is picked by hand, is grown in Mexico and shipped in.

California is the #1 state for growing fresh produce, and yes, picked by a majority of migrant workers… probably for cash… no taxes… and their employers get away with it…

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