March 22, 20232 yr 15 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Also, Trump's running FYP edit - @mikemack8i legit did not see your post. great minds think alike.
March 22, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: It's supposed to happen today right? Could be today. Maybe yesterday. Or tomorrow. Lady justice works on her own time.
March 22, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, toolg said: Could be today. Maybe yesterday. Or tomorrow. Lady justice works on her own time. I heard it wasn't going to happen yesterday and seemed like that was correct
March 22, 20232 yr Moment of Truth in Trump Case After ‘Extraordinary’ Late Night Legal Battle A U.S. appeals court is expected to rule shortly on whether Trump attorney Evan Corcoran can appear before a grand jury in Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago classified documents case. The move comes after a dizzying saga overnight, in which the U.S. Department of Justice and attorneys for Trump filed dueling motions over Corcoran’s testimony. At the heart of the battling motions is a Friday ruling in which a federal judge reportedly sided with the DOJ, finding that Corcoran could be compelled to testify because prosecutors had sufficient evidence Trump may have used one of his defense attorneys in an alleged bid to mislead investigators. Attorneys for Trump have fought that ruling, and the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday gave them until midnight to specify which documents are at issue. The DOJ, in turn, was ordered to file its response by 6 a.m. Wednesday. Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by the Department of Justice to investigate Trump’s potential mishandling of classified documents, has requested that Corcoran appear before the grand jury in the obstruction probe. Smith found "compelling preliminary evidence” that the former president knowingly misled his own legal team about holding onto the records after leaving office, sources told ABC News on Tuesday.
March 22, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I heard it wasn't going to happen yesterday and seemed like that was correct Yes. I can 100% concur with you that it didn't happen yesterday.
March 22, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Lloyd said: Yes. I can 100% concur with you that it didn't happen yesterday. Had a feeling someone would be a smartass because I added "seemed" lol
March 22, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I tend to agree. Using campaign contributions to pay off a porn star mistress (ultimately failing in the aim to keep it hush hush) is a bad look and certainly illegal, but it's still relatively weak sauce. Georgia though... those charges could be much more serious. Your honor, my client has committed so many crimes. It seems petty to indict him for this particular one.
March 22, 20232 yr If we really want "justice", you go after him for every law he has broken, no? Why would arresting him on these charges make it impossible to get him on others? People are convicted of crimes while serving time for others all the time.
March 22, 20232 yr Seems to me the easiest crime to charge Trump with would be Mail Fraud, Wire Fraud. Fundraising for one stated purpose like a legal defense fund after the election is over, never creating the fund, and then Trump takes the money raised and uses it for his own personal purposes. The fact he hasn't been charged is beyond me. Bannon was charged for it and Trump pardoned him. Let's see, Mail Fraud, Wire Fraud and False Pretenses just to name a few. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/16/1105279623/jan-6-committee-trump-campaign-legal-defense-fund Wire fraud is punishable by up to 20 years in prison, and can result in a fine of up to $250,000. Mail fraud and wire fraud are terms used in the United States to describe the use of a physical or electronic mail system to defraud another, If you are convicted of regular mail fraud then you can be sentenced with the following: Up to 20 years in Federal prison.
March 22, 20232 yr https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-indictment-hush-money-grand-jury-cancelled-wednesday-sources-2023-3 Quote The Manhattan 'hush-money' grand jury has been told not to come in on Wednesday, a cancellation that comes on the brink of a possible historic indictment vote of former President Donald Trump, according to two law enforcement officers. And while nothing beyond Wednesday is set in stone, it is unlikely that the grand jury will meet at all this week, said one of the law enforcement sources, who spoke to Insider on condition of anonymity.
March 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Tweek said: Moment of Truth in Trump Case After ‘Extraordinary’ Late Night Legal Battle A U.S. appeals court is expected to rule shortly on whether Trump attorney Evan Corcoran can appear before a grand jury in Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago classified documents case. The move comes after a dizzying saga overnight, in which the U.S. Department of Justice and attorneys for Trump filed dueling motions over Corcoran’s testimony. At the heart of the battling motions is a Friday ruling in which a federal judge reportedly sided with the DOJ, finding that Corcoran could be compelled to testify because prosecutors had sufficient evidence Trump may have used one of his defense attorneys in an alleged bid to mislead investigators. Attorneys for Trump have fought that ruling, and the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals on Tuesday gave them until midnight to specify which documents are at issue. The DOJ, in turn, was ordered to file its response by 6 a.m. Wednesday. Jack Smith, the special counsel appointed by the Department of Justice to investigate Trump’s potential mishandling of classified documents, has requested that Corcoran appear before the grand jury in the obstruction probe. Smith found "compelling preliminary evidence” that the former president knowingly misled his own legal team about holding onto the records after leaving office, sources told ABC News on Tuesday. One thing of note it that it is very very odd to have a judge both demand a filing of documents w/i a two hour window and have only in by midnight. Every judge I have ever dealt with has been very "meh” about a timeline. So I’m guessing there may be some kind of national security implication.
March 22, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, Bill said: One thing of note it that it is very very odd to have a judge both demand a filing of documents w/i a two hour window and have only in by midnight. Every judge I have ever dealt with has been very "meh” about a timeline. So I’m guessing there may be some kind of national security implication. I have never seen deadlines set at midnight and 6am. Kinda nuts.
March 22, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I have never seen deadlines set at midnight at 6am. Kinda nuts. Not typical for sure. Pretty clear the Court of Appeals is going to uphold the District Court Order. Corcoran is going to have to testify.
March 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: Your honor, my client has committed so many crimes. It seems petty to indict him for this particular one. In a perfect world criminals are indicted and convicted of all crimes they're guilty of. The practical reality here is that the NY indictment is going to be very very heavy on effort and desire to "nail" Trump for a crime that ultimately will end up being a fine. He's almost certainly never going to do prison time for what NY is trying to convict him for. All of which will feed into the narrative that it's a politically motivated prosecution. Which is probably the truth in NY. But Georgia is the real ish. Nail him on that and you're talking serious criminal justice.
March 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Boogyman said: If we really want "justice", you go after him for every law he has broken, no? Why would arresting him on these charges make it impossible to get him on others? People are convicted of crimes while serving time for others all the time. Right, but they also aren’t charged for every crime they commit. They get charged for the ones with the necessary evidence and the biggest bang for the buck.
March 22, 20232 yr Author 12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: In a perfect world criminals are indicted and convicted of all crimes they're guilty of. The practical reality here is that the NY indictment is going to be very very heavy on effort and desire to "nail" Trump for a crime that ultimately will end up being a fine. He's almost certainly never going to do prison time for what NY is trying to convict him for. All of which will feed into the narrative that it's a politically motivated prosecution. Which is probably the truth in NY. But Georgia is the real ish. Nail him on that and you're talking serious criminal justice. also, he's 100% f'd for obstruction in the classified documents case.
March 22, 20232 yr Author 42 minutes ago, vikas83 said: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-indictment-hush-money-grand-jury-cancelled-wednesday-sources-2023-3
March 22, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike030270 said: I just want him gone and out of 2024 Don't think there's much chance of that happening. Primaries start in less than 10 months. No way it's all wrapped up by then. And even if it somehow were, he'd still run (and win) the primary from prison.
March 22, 20232 yr 16 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Right, but they also aren’t charged for every crime they commit. They get charged for the ones with the necessary evidence and the biggest bang for the buck. I get that. But let's say he's found guilty of everything NY is charging him with. How does that prevent him being tried for committing crimes in Georgia? Or all the other places he likely broke the law?
March 22, 20232 yr if this indictment happens, i fully expect trump to win 2024. nothing will fire up his people quite like being the underdog, being the victim, being told that the establisment is against them. hes a world class spinster, and an indictment just gives him fuel to spin.
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