May 29, 20241 yr The jurors surely are now worried that, if they vote not guilty, Bobby Special Shoes is going to plod after them and yell at them on the NYC streets.
May 29, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, The_Omega said: The jurors surely are now worried that, if they vote not guilty, Bobby Special Shoes is going to plod after them and yell at them on the NYC streets.
May 29, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Mike030270 said: Curious how long it'll take for jury to make a decision
May 29, 20241 yr Author imagine enjoying all the awesome movies deniro has been in through the past few decades....but then suddenly having to hate him because you worship cheeto? that must suck
May 29, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: imagine enjoying all the awesome movies deniro has been in through the past few decades....but then suddenly having to hate him because you worship cheeto? that must suck In their reality, Home Alone 2 was the winner of 10 Academy Awards
May 29, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, The_Omega said: The jurors surely are now worried that, if they vote not guilty, Bobby Special Shoes is going to plod after them and yell at them on the NYC streets. We're going to pretend deranged Trump supporters won't come after them if they vote guilty
May 29, 20241 yr l expect the verdict to come out tomorrow. It shouldn't take more than a day and a half.
May 29, 20241 yr 42 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: imagine enjoying all the awesome movies deniro has been in through the past few decades....but then suddenly having to hate him because you worship cheeto? that must suck You win post of the day. Whatever the verdict is, we're heading into ANOTHER very crazy time. People are crazy stupid. It's going to be bad.
May 29, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, mr_hunt said: he should cry more. Does Trump think Mother Teresa paid off porn stars?
May 29, 20241 yr That judge is doing everything he can to utterly f it all up and reinforce the "it's rigged" narrative. Dershowitz went off last week BEFORE his jury instructions last week or the 4x4 BS today. Quote I have observed and participated in trials throughout the world. I have seen justice and injustice in China, Russia, Ukraine, England, France, Italy, Israel, as well as in nearly 40 of our 50 states. But in my 60 years as a lawyer and law professor, I have never seen a spectacle such as the one I observed sitting in the front row of the courthouse yesterday. https://nypost.com/2024/05/21/opinion/i-was-inside-the-court-when-the-judge-closed-the-trump-trial-and-what-i-saw-shocked-me/ He needed to run it almost perfectly to 1. get a conviction to stand up on appeal, which it won't now, and 2. avoid turning this into something that reinforces the "he's a victim" narrative. He's horrible. Even people who might not like him are going to look at that BS and go WTF.
May 29, 20241 yr I'm not in the courtroom, and have no real opinion on this. But Alan Dershowitz has less than zero credibility, while Merchan has generally been universally heralded as a fair judge prior to this case. Seriously, get out of here with Alan Dershowitz as some kind of unbiased observer.
May 29, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Jury sent a note to the judge... This quick on a verdict would be stunning after 20 days of trial.
May 29, 20241 yr Jury request. THE FOUR REQUESTS: 1) David Pecker’s testimony regarding the phone conversation with Donald Trump while Pecker was in the investor meeting 2) David Pecker’s testimony re: life rights for McDougal. 3) Pecker testimony regarding TT meeting 4) Michael Cohen’s testimony regarding TT meeting
May 29, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I'm not in the courtroom, and have no real opinion on this. But Alan Dershowitz has less than zero credibility, while Merchan has generally been universally heralded as a fair judge prior to this case. Seriously, get out of here with Alan Dershowitz as some kind of unbiased observer. He campaigned for Hillary and is a very well respected former professor. As much as I respect your posts you are way over the mountain on that one. That judge is an epic POS who just f'ed it all up, showing how biased he is.
May 29, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: He campaigned for Hillary and is a very well respected former professor. As much as I respect your posts you are way over the mountain on that one. He literally wrote a book titled "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," and has been a non-stop defender of him. But I was referring more to having no credibility due to his Epstein connections. He has less than zero respect and is a known pedophile.
May 29, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: He campaigned for Hillary and is a very well respected former professor. As much as I respect your posts you are way over the mountain on that one. That judge is an epic POS who just f'ed it all up showing how biased he is. Dershowitz isn't well respected anymore. He is an unapologetic Trump defender and he lost credibility defending OJ. He's not nearly what he once used to be.
May 29, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: He literally wrote a book titled "The Case Against Impeaching Trump," and has been a non-stop defender of him. But I was referring more to having no credibility due to his Epstein connections. Well, the guy was a Democrat who campaigned for Hillary. From a legal perspective, he could be correct, I don't know. He is probably a POS in his real life and the respected part doesn't apply to that but rather his legal mind.
May 29, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Dershowitz isn't well respected anymore. He is an unapologetic Trump defender and he lost credibility defending OJ. He's not nearly what he once used to be. That doesn't mean what he saw wasn't utter BS. From what he spelled out it sounded pretty bad. Even taking AD out of it I've never heard of a judge giving instructions like he did last week or the 4x4x4 BS today. Even if it's got merit, you can't pull that BS in a high-profile case like this, where one guy is playing the victim constantly. Was he guilty? Probably. Does it look like it's rigged to get a guilty verdict now? Yeah. Three groups of 4 get to decide on different crimes?? WTF. I hope there is something more to that than is being reported.
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