May 31, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, vikas83 said: If, for instance, PA only sends Trump electors even though Biden won the vote, I'm not sure Congress has any grounds to reject that. In short, prepare for utter chaos. Would never happen. Slate of electors would require the governors approval. Last I checked, you guys have a Dem (Shapiro) but even a cultist governor is going to be limited by the courts if he tries to act unilaterally against what's in his state's constitution.
May 31, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: I just think it's all very unlikely when Trump's people aren't running the federal show. Harris is the one that has to certify this time. Zero chance she knowingly certifies fake electors. Yeah, but if there are no electors from PA to vote for Biden, she can't accept votes that don't exist. So the PA votes are thrown out and no one gets them, so no one gets a majority and the election goes to the House with one vote per state. That makes Trump president.
May 31, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: Scenario -- Biden wins the vote in PA. Trump gets the PA legislature to nominate a slate of Trump electors instead. Biden campaign sues in PA court and loses. Appeal to SCOTUS (to review decision of PA Supreme Court). WTF does the SCOTUS do? Will they dictate to PA how to select electors? It's fascinating and terrifying at the same time. Yeah, I've got a bunch of people to thank for voting for Trump in the first place.
May 31, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Would never happen. Slate of electors would require the governors approval. Last I checked, you guys have a Dem (Shapiro) but even a cultist governor is going to be limited by the courts if he tries to act unilaterally against what's in his state's constitution. OK, so governor doesn't sign off and PA doesn't submit any electors. Advantage Trump. The failure of the Democrats to address these weaknesses in the system is gross negligence.
May 31, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said: They moved you up to fries already? I thought you were still washing lettuce. After posting this on X, he's no longer trusted with lettuce
May 31, 20241 yr 8 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Yeah man, you have to consider the context when someone says "I'll laugh so much when Trump is president" or "Trump is your president. Deal with it" when trying to decide if someone is a Trump supporter. I like how you quote only half of the comment and cherry pick the parts that you like. What does the rest of it say? Here let me help you.... Looks like I also call Trump stupid. And say I will laugh at BOTH of them.
May 31, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: OK, so governor doesn't sign off and PA doesn't submit any electors. Advantage Trump. The failure of the Democrats to address these weaknesses in the system is gross negligence. I was going to ask about the Gov, thanks for this clarification. I have to agree, fascinating how we set this country up, and terrifying if we let someone bring it down.
May 31, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: After posting this on X, he's no longer trusted with lettuce I already made a foot lettuce joke. One per day.
May 31, 20241 yr I'd be more worried about what the cult does if trump loses than what he actually does
May 31, 20241 yr PA law seems to say that the Governor appoints the electors, but if litigation ties things up to the safe harbor date, the legislature can step in. Maybe PA won't work, but there's WI, MI, GA, AZ, etc. There's going to be complete chaos. Trump and his people will never stop if they lose.
May 31, 20241 yr If the electoral vote is close enough then it will only take one or two states to not send electors and it goes to the House.
May 31, 20241 yr 59 minutes ago, Captain F said: Just curious. If Trump wins the election, will all of you accept it? 35 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Yes. Will you accept it if Biden wins? No matter who wins, I'm leaving the country!!!!!
May 31, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, Captain F said: I like how you quote only half of the comment and cherry pick the parts that you like. What does the rest of it say? Here let me help you.... Looks like I also call Trump stupid. And say I will laugh at BOTH of them. Both of them!
May 31, 20241 yr Just now, vikas83 said: PA law seems to say that the Governor appoints the electors, but if litigation ties things up to the safe harbor date, the legislature can step in. Maybe PA won't work, but there's WI, MI, GA, AZ, etc. There's going to be complete chaos. Trump and his people will never stop if they lose. Dems hold it all in Michigan, they have no chance there. Kemp's already proven he won't play ball with Trump here in GA. Wisconsin has a Dem gov. As does AZ. Not a lot of opportunities for the Trump people to cheat here. Probably GA's their best bet, but I'd be surprised if A. Kemp went along with it and B. if it was enough anyway.
May 31, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: OK, so governor doesn't sign off and PA doesn't submit any electors. Advantage Trump. The failure of the Democrats to address these weaknesses in the system is gross negligence. That's more likely than a false slate being submitted and approved like you initially said, but overall is still very unlikely unless we're looking at some razor thin margins. That also doesn't help Trump win, it just draws out the process. I get what you mean in that any level of chaos is what he wants, but state level cultists can kick and scream all they want, it won't get Trump closer to the white house at the end of the day.
May 31, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: No matter who wins, I'm leaving the country!!!!! Stay at least four countries away from me
May 31, 20241 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: Dems hold it all in Michigan, they have no chance there. Kemp's already proven he won't play ball with Trump here in GA. Wisconsin has a Dem gov. As does AZ. Not a lot of opportunities for the Trump people to cheat here. Probably GA's their best bet, but I'd be surprised if A. Kemp went along with it and B. if it was enough anyway. Hey, quick question. How come we don't have to think about these scenarios if the Dems lose? Aren't they the ones who steal elections?
May 31, 20241 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Hey, quick question. How come we don't have to think about these scenarios if the Dems lose? Aren't they the ones who steal elections? Because Dems are good either way. They've got the dead vote on lock down
May 31, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, vikas83 said: PA law seems to say that the Governor appoints the electors, but if litigation ties things up to the safe harbor date, the legislature can step in. Maybe PA won't work, but there's WI, MI, GA, AZ, etc. There's going to be complete chaos. Trump and his people will never stop if they lose. Same scenario already in MI, which is why it was never in doubt desipte all the BS the legislature tried to pull in 2020. And I think the Electoral Count Reform Act tried to standardize this across all states for this very reason.
May 31, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Stay at least four countries away from me You have to be at least 4 countries away from you to see the sun in the wintertime so I'm sure he'll be ok with that.
May 31, 20241 yr It also addresses the states’ side of the equation. It codifies that the executive of each state sends forward the state’s slate of electors. The law indicates that, in this context, "the executive” is usually a governor. But if state law in effect prior to the election explicitly identifies another officer, such as the secretary of state, that works as well—the law simply requires certainty before the election. https://www.ncsl.org/state-legislatures-news/details/what-the-electoral-count-reform-act-means-for-states#:~:text=The law also clarifies that,laws relating to presidential electors.
May 31, 20241 yr Just now, DEagle7 said: You have to be at least 4 countries away from you to see the sun in the wintertime so I'm sure he'll be ok with that. True but now I see it 20 hours a day. May has been glorious. High 70s / low 80s and sunny nearly every single day.
Create an account or sign in to comment