October 3, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: There's no federal law against lobbying electors. And if a legitimate elector "votes their conscience" it could be successfully argued that it's consistent with an original safeguard of the Constitution and our system based on the federalist papers. Sending alternate electors is 100% criminal. Regarding meeting the electors, Clinton conceded the election and never endorsed or coordinated with any of them. Had she actually done so the movement would have almost certainly gained more traction than it ultimately did. It failed in large part due to her lack of support. Never mind the Constitution stating that the President is selected by the States.
October 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, BBE said: Careful. While different on its face, that group of faithless electors met with the Clinton campaign, reached out to electors in other states, and publicly discussed lawsuits in 29 states to challenge laws binding electors to the outcome of the state vote. Some would see that as a conspiracy to undermine the results of a lawful election. Wrong. No false slates of electors were submitted in those states. There was no conspiracy to coordinate their submission, and no documentation whatsoever that campaign officials instructed them to do so. Get your facts straight if you're gonna try to act like the two situations are in any way comparable. Trump F'ed up and committed crimes when he tried to subvert democracy after losing the 2020 election. Full stop. No white washing from you or any other of your fellow trumpbots will ever change that. There's no way to "both sides" this one no matter how hard you try. You supported (and still do) the worst president in US history and that will be your legacy to own forever just as much as it is his.
October 3, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, BBE said: Never mind the Constitution stating that the President is selected by the States. Uh, yes. And different states have different laws regarding faithless electors. In some states there is no prohibition against them.
October 3, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Uh, yes. And different states have different laws regarding faithless electors. In some states there is no prohibition against them. True, but at least 29 do. And if a legally faithless elector reaches out to bound electors in other states in an effort to get that elector to break their state law, and that elector breaks state law it is what?
October 3, 20241 yr Author you can't sanewash what cheeto did after he lost the 2020 election...there is no false equivalency that will make what he did acceptable.
October 3, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, BBE said: True, but at least 29 do. And if a legally faithless elector reaches out to bound electors in other states in an effort to get that elector to break their state law, and that elector breaks state law it is what? The electors themselves? Or at the explicit direction of campaign officials as meticulously documented by a special prosecutor?
October 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, BBE said: True, but at least 29 do. And if a legally faithless elector reaches out to bound electors in other states in an effort to get that elector to break their state law, and that elector breaks state law it is what? uh, ok. so basically "if someone breaks the law, is the law broken?" sure. you got me there. I'm not sure what your point is counselor. you're alleging that because electors reached out to Hillary's campaign but received no support (at least none has come to light) there's a conspiracy - but neither Hillary nor the campaign furthered this "conspiracy" and the electors - depending on their state (I don't know which they were) - may well have been acting legally anyway. good argument. 👍
October 3, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: It’s gonna be so great when he loses the election and then rots in a jail cell for the rest of his life.
October 4, 20241 yr More rage tweeting from the stable genius, who people will crawl through broken glass to vote for.
October 5, 20241 yr 22 hours ago, mr_hunt said: The biggest cry baby beetch to ever hold office and mentally ill morons still act like he's some tough guy worth voting for.
October 9, 20241 yr Trump paid two companies $1.5 million to investigate the election, and both found no evidence of fraud. Smith has the reports, and the fact that they were delivered to Donald.
October 10, 20241 yr On 10/4/2024 at 6:25 AM, Toastrel said: More rage tweeting from the stable genius, who people will crawl through broken glass to vote for. what a weak loser trump is.
October 12, 20241 yr Old man Trump is incontinent. It seems he relieved himself in the middle of his Detroit speech last week, and at other times in front of world leaders, in court, in meetings, etc
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