October 9, 20232 yr Author 4 minutes ago, UK Eagle said: I heard the lightsabre fights that Dawson were in could have been a lot better than they were. Looked slow and clunky vs the others in the program Yes, I've seen a lot of complaints. Ahsoka in the cartoons destroys Darth Maul, Inquisitors and even faces Vader at his strength and holds her own. In reality she would tear through everyone in this show easily and they can't have that. So they created a new character Baylan who was also trained at the Jedi temple and left the order and became a mercenary and trained a padawan. So the idea is he is powerful because he came from those roots as well then of course they always have the Sith being more powerful until it's no longer convenient and the good guys win easily. She's also very fast in the cartoons and not so much in live action. They also do some slowed down samurai style in this where they are calculating their next move and adjusting sword positions, which some fans have thought was interesting. At times, Ahsoka is fast and unstoppable and other times slow and barely handling basic storm troopers...whatever the writers need for convenience in the scene.
October 9, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, NOTW said: It doesn't take much for Ashoka to explain to someone (Sabine, Baylan, whoever) that she left the Jedi Order because she didn't sign up to be a war General tied up into politics, she wanted to be a peacekeeper. They did the flashbacks to her and Anakin fighting alongside troopers in the war. I believe they showed her hesitancy about that but didn't really go further into her issues with the Jedi Order. Instead they used it to retcon that Anakin was a great and wise leader as a Jedi which is not at all what they showed in the prequels. yep and considering how many didn't watch the animated shows, it was a golden opportunity to bring a lot of those up to date and understand who she is today. beyond flashbacks, you bring ezra and thrawn in at the end of season one. weird for disney, considering how much more content they could've put out on the streaming service if they went that direction.
October 9, 20232 yr 59 minutes ago, NOTW said: Yes, I've seen a lot of complaints. Ahsoka in the cartoons destroys Darth Maul, Inquisitors and even faces Vader at his strength and holds her own. In reality she would tear through everyone in this show easily and they can't have that. So they created a new character Baylan who was also trained at the Jedi temple and left the order and became a mercenary and trained a padawan. So the idea is he is powerful because he came from those roots as well then of course they always have the Sith being more powerful until it's no longer convenient and the good guys win easily. i brought this up early on. it made no sense that ahsoka suddenly could be bested by some mercenary that was once trained as a jedi. that said, overall i did enjoy the show.
October 9, 20232 yr Author Yeah like most of the components of the show including the direction, cinematography, effects, etc. were good, they were movie quality. As with a lot of new SW content, it's just disappointing because of the potential and the very easily avoided writing mistakes.
October 9, 20232 yr A random thought came to me at the weekend. Considering Rey's age, did someone get jiggy with the Emperor after his force accident 🤮 or is she a test tube baby after the fact as the films are set 30 years after his death? I miss the dear old Emperor, so let's get his sperm out of the deep freeze and brew an heir, which we will then mistakenly release into the galaxy So many questions by making her a needless Palpatine. And with the Clone stuff they did in the last season of Mando And yes, my mind works in weird ways
October 10, 20232 yr Author On 10/9/2023 at 2:45 PM, UK Eagle said: A random thought came to me at the weekend. Considering Rey's age, did someone get jiggy with the Emperor after his force accident 🤮 or is she a test tube baby after the fact as the films are set 30 years after his death? I miss the dear old Emperor, so let's get his sperm out of the deep freeze and brew an heir, which we will then mistakenly release into the galaxy So many questions by making her a needless Palpatine. And with the Clone stuff they did in the last season of Mando And yes, my mind works in weird ways She's his granddaughter. I don't recall them explaining in much detail (because ew), but seems like he got some strange and had a kid who was force sensitive or something, and that guy had Rey. I also don't recall them explaining much about his son. It was just a lazy plot device to make Rey a Palpatine. It was a response to fans wanting desperately for Rey to be someone special, they were hell bent on her having to be related to someone. That never made sense to me because all the Jedi that we knew prior to Luke were not related. Anakin broke the rules by having a kid, they weren't supposed to have attachments. People said the Skywalker bloodline had to be included...it was...in Ben the grandson of Anakin. I always maintained it was MUCH more interesting a story and better for her character development that she is not related to anyone. She was waiting for her parents to return which was naive but she was traumatized by it. It made for a better story that she was an orphan who had no life or purpose until she had her encounter with the Force and got pulled into a larger story. Maz Kanata directly told her that in TFA to let go, her parents are never coming back and to embrace her future with Luke. She would find purpose and family in the Jedi. Making her a relative of anyone known would have been silly and cheap. That's one of the aspects of The Last Jedi I liked. Kylo Ren actually cared for her and hit her with the truth she didn't want to face.
October 11, 20232 yr 15 hours ago, NOTW said: She's his granddaughter. I don't recall them explaining in much detail (because ew), but seems like he got some strange and had a kid who was force sensitive or something, and that guy had Rey. I also don't recall them explaining much about his son. It was just a lazy plot device to make Rey a Palpatine. It was a response to fans wanting desperately for Rey to be someone special, they were hell bent on her having to be related to someone. That never made sense to me because all the Jedi that we knew prior to Luke were not related. Anakin broke the rules by having a kid, they weren't supposed to have attachments. People said the Skywalker bloodline had to be included...it was...in Ben the grandson of Anakin. I always maintained it was MUCH more interesting a story and better for her character development that she is not related to anyone. She was waiting for her parents to return which was naive but she was traumatized by it. It made for a better story that she was an orphan who had no life or purpose until she had her encounter with the Force and got pulled into a larger story. Maz Kanata directly told her that in TFA to let go, her parents are never coming back and to embrace her future with Luke. She would find purpose and family in the Jedi. Making her a relative of anyone known would have been silly and cheap. That's one of the aspects of The Last Jedi I liked. Kylo Ren actually cared for her and hit her with the truth she didn't want to face. Ok. I never paid enough attention to the films to work it out until last weekend because it made such little sense. So she is likely vaguely related to Amidala then as Palpatine came from Naboo too. Agree. Rey being a rando makes more sense for her character in the longer term. It's less baggage for a pretty bland character to carry and could move the story away from the Skywalker thing very easily. Which the last part, feels very right to do
October 11, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, UK Eagle said: Ok. I never paid enough attention to the films to work it out until last weekend because it made such little sense. So she is likely vaguely related to Amidala then as Palpatine came from Naboo too. Agree. Rey being a rando makes more sense for her character in the longer term. It's less baggage for a pretty bland character to carry and could move the story away from the Skywalker thing very easily. Which the last part, feels very right to do if my memory serves me, i believe the palpetine connection was thrown in as a futile effort to salvage the mess that the first two sequels were. i stress the word, futile.
October 11, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, NOTW said: "Somehow, Palpatine returned." well, at least they didn't write a 3rd movie in the sequels about another death star type deal. oh wait.
October 11, 20232 yr Author Disney rushed to get a sequel trilogy out. Granted they made their money on them. But they also should have leaned on Filoni early. They wanted to tap into nostalgia and over correct for some things fans didn't like about the prequels. They're doing content all over the timeline back and forth. Filoni wanted more Clone Wars era and Rebels. Disney wanted new characters. A movie that takes place after ROTJ with the OG plus Rebels/Ashoka characters would have merged all the ideas together to fight the Imperial remnant. Shows like The Mandalorian could happen concurrently to show the smaller parts of the galaxy affected.
October 11, 20232 yr I'm not sure I want any more of Filoni on Star Wars; Andor showed that a story didn't need Filoni to be on oversight to make sense within the eco-system; his almost constant call backs to Anakin are becoming a parody. A harsh person would say the Clone Wars are all Filoni knows, and retaining him will only further anchor the stories in that era. Star Wars needs a post Anakin vision that doesn't include Storm Troopers, lots of pew pew, the evil Empire/New Empire and raking over the dying coals of the Jedi/Sith story from the first trilogy. And less obvious girl bosses.
October 12, 20232 yr Author 18 hours ago, UK Eagle said: I'm not sure I want any more of Filoni on Star Wars; Andor showed that a story didn't need Filoni to be on oversight to make sense within the eco-system; his almost constant call backs to Anakin are becoming a parody. A harsh person would say the Clone Wars are all Filoni knows, and retaining him will only further anchor the stories in that era. Star Wars needs a post Anakin vision that doesn't include Storm Troopers, lots of pew pew, the evil Empire/New Empire and raking over the dying coals of the Jedi/Sith story from the first trilogy. And less obvious girl bosses. I know what you mean. Filoni was Lucas' padawan. TCW was very well done and created new characters that fans came to like. It explored Mandalore and created Bo Katan, it created Ashoka and added more layers to the issues of the Jedi Order, it did a better job of showing the Clone Wars conflict, actual wars and the political components. It was both faithful to Lucas' movies but also fresh. However, Filoni obviously is fixated on the characters he created. That's why I like Jon Favreau involved. He loves SW and respects it, but also knows filmmaking and story telling. The 2 of them work well together, and they've brought in some very good directors for some of the episodes. They're also cramming in things with other products, and the sequels were done by different directors and visions that caused them to go a different direction, change directors on Solo and Rise of Skywalker and things like that. At least with Filoni (and Favreau) there would be clear vision and direction for going forward and a roadmap. The TV shows are leading to a final movie that will end the era leading up to The Force Awakens.
October 12, 20232 yr On 10/10/2023 at 4:58 PM, NOTW said: She's his granddaughter. I don't recall them explaining in much detail (because ew), but seems like he got some strange and had a kid who was force sensitive or something, and that guy had Rey. I also don't recall them explaining much about his son. It was just a lazy plot device to make Rey a Palpatine. It was a response to fans wanting desperately for Rey to be someone special, they were hell bent on her having to be related to someone. That never made sense to me because all the Jedi that we knew prior to Luke were not related. Anakin broke the rules by having a kid, they weren't supposed to have attachments. People said the Skywalker bloodline had to be included...it was...in Ben the grandson of Anakin. I always maintained it was MUCH more interesting a story and better for her character development that she is not related to anyone. She was waiting for her parents to return which was naive but she was traumatized by it. It made for a better story that she was an orphan who had no life or purpose until she had her encounter with the Force and got pulled into a larger story. Maz Kanata directly told her that in TFA to let go, her parents are never coming back and to embrace her future with Luke. She would find purpose and family in the Jedi. Making her a relative of anyone known would have been silly and cheap. That's one of the aspects of The Last Jedi I liked. Kylo Ren actually cared for her and hit her with the truth she didn't want to face. By all measures (because of how badly Rion Johnson screwed up TLJ) Rey is the most powerful force user in the galaxy. Disney wanted so badly for a strong female hero who didn't need training from a man, they made her the ultimate Mary Sue. JJ Abrams had to come up with some plot device to explain why she was so powerful with the force and required little to no training to have all force powers at her disposal.
October 12, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, NOTW said: I know what you mean. Filoni was Lucas' padawan. TCW was very well done and created new characters that fans came to like. It explored Mandalore and created Bo Katan, it created Ashoka and added more layers to the issues of the Jedi Order, it did a better job of showing the Clone Wars conflict, actual wars and the political components. It was both faithful to Lucas' movies but also fresh. However, Filoni obviously is fixated on the characters he created. That's why I like Jon Favreau involved. He loves SW and respects it, but also knows filmmaking and story telling. The 2 of them work well together, and they've brought in some very good directors for some of the episodes. They're also cramming in things with other products, and the sequels were done by different directors and visions that caused them to go a different direction, change directors on Solo and Rise of Skywalker and things like that. At least with Filoni (and Favreau) there would be clear vision and direction for going forward and a roadmap. The TV shows are leading to a final movie that will end the era leading up to The Force Awakens. Talk is Favreau is no longer involved that much in Star Wars, which would be a massive shame as that first season of Mando hooked me back in. Pinch of salt and all that "The short version is Favreau was able to operate when [Lucasfilm President] Kathleen [Kennedy] was being distracted by Blood and Bone. The moment Chapek made the worst decision he ever made in office, and I mean that ever more so than some of the other stupid crap he’s done. He told Kathy, ‘Get the F out of there and get back over here and worry about Lucasfilm, their normal stuff like Willow and Indiana Jones and Star Wars. And that was the moment that the civil war ended because it came with the final blow with the firing of Gina Carano. From that moment on everything unraveled.” https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/07/12/rumor-the-mandalorian-creator-jon-favreau-the-casualty-of-lucasfilm-civil-war-not-really-working-on-star-wars-anymore/
October 12, 20232 yr Author 1 hour ago, UK Eagle said: Talk is Favreau is no longer involved that much in Star Wars, which would be a massive shame as that first season of Mando hooked me back in. Pinch of salt and all that "The short version is Favreau was able to operate when [Lucasfilm President] Kathleen [Kennedy] was being distracted by Blood and Bone. The moment Chapek made the worst decision he ever made in office, and I mean that ever more so than some of the other stupid crap he’s done. He told Kathy, ‘Get the F out of there and get back over here and worry about Lucasfilm, their normal stuff like Willow and Indiana Jones and Star Wars. And that was the moment that the civil war ended because it came with the final blow with the firing of Gina Carano. From that moment on everything unraveled.” https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/07/12/rumor-the-mandalorian-creator-jon-favreau-the-casualty-of-lucasfilm-civil-war-not-really-working-on-star-wars-anymore/ Favreau did press tour with Filoni recently about Ahsoka and other shows 🤷🏻♂️
October 14, 20232 yr On 10/12/2023 at 10:56 PM, NOTW said: Favreau did press tour with Filoni recently about Ahsoka and other shows 🤷🏻♂️ I guess that is contractual obligation, Hollywood make nice stuff. Don't get me wrong, I want Favreau's influence in there; knows a lot, can write a good story etc.
October 16, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: luke shows up as post-op lucy to save the day ! the force is with us all !!! @olsilverhair was right about you
October 16, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Godfather said: @olsilverhair was right about you what, that i lie when i say only the tip ?
October 17, 20232 yr On 10/15/2023 at 2:14 AM, NOTW said: If it was Anakin,then it's more likely, but still never gonna happen. Even Kanaan is more likely than Luke
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