1 hour ago, EazyEaglez said:

So what’s the point? Rodgers doesn’t make this a SB caliber team. He’s one step out the door from retirement. Giving up at least three first, and a heap load of salary cap for one guy who will not get you to the Super Bowl simply makes no sense whatsoever. Frankly I agree with @downundermike on this. He’d prefer to go to Denver heck even Cleveland would be a much better option than Philly. Just remember he chooses where he wants to go and I can’t for a moment see any of these three quarterbacks having Philly as a team high on their lists. This isn’t a case of a free agent following the money. They’re already getting paid and can go wherever they want to. 

This is a case of a free agent going to the best option. There are 3 teams in the AFC West better than Denver. Cleveland had a better QB than Philly and did worse. Dallas is a dumpster fire, and we still have the same core that made the playoffs 4 of the last 5 years. There are better options out there, but they’re not Denver. 

14 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

This is a case of a free agent going to the best option. There are 3 teams in the AFC West better than Denver. Cleveland had a better QB than Philly and did worse. Dallas is a dumpster fire, and we still have the same core that made the playoffs 4 of the last 5 years. There are better options out there, but they’re not Denver. 

You can try to rationalize this however you like, but Philly is not a good option for Rodgers.  The city itself is a dumpster fire and not a desirable place to live.  It also has high taxes.  Combine that with a roster that has a lot of holes, and the only unbiased conclusion anyone can reach is that Rodgers ain't coming to Philly.

6 hours ago, downundermike said:

If he really wants out of Green Bay, Denver should be his #1 target.

If you ask me, he should go to Tennessee.  He provides an instant upgrade over Tannehill and has a realistic prospect of winning the whole ball of wax with that squad.

The Colts are #1 favorites if they land Rodgers, I think that's his best scenario. 

3 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:

The Colts are #1 favorites if they land Rodgers, I think that's his best scenario. 

Nope, Denver has a top 3 receiving group in the NFL, RB's, a good line and a good defense.  They are the immediate favorites in the AFC with Rodgers.

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Nope, Denver has a top 3 receiving group in the NFL, RB's, a good line and a good defense.  They are the immediate favorites in the AFC with Rodgers.

I disagree. I think the Colts have better OL, better RB and a good defense as well. But both points are valid. 

5 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:

I disagree. I think the Colts have better OL, better RB and a good defense as well. But both points are valid. 

Colts O-Line on paper is better, but as a Jonathan Taylor owner in FF, I watched them a ton.  They played like hot garbage most of the year.  They have the better RB, but not the better RB group, and Denver's defense is way better.

22 minutes ago, beto_eagles said:

The Colts are #1 favorites if they land Rodgers, I think that's his best scenario. 

I think he stays in GB. If he does go anywhere I'd say Denver or Pitt

Rodgers has 2 years left on his contract with Green Bay at $25-26mil per year.

Why would Green Bay want to trade him?

 

15 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

Rodgers has 2 years left on his contract with Green Bay at $25-26mil per year.

Why would Green Bay want to trade him?

 

Because if he retires, the good contract isn't worth anything - but if he will only play if traded, GB can get good value in a trade.

Okay, but why would the acquiring team pay good value? Are they unaware of the Rodgers retirement threat/risk.

Rodgers is 38 and threatening to retire. 

I don't think the Eagles D can be fixed in the next 2 years. Doesn't make sense for us.

You could drop an AllPro QB onto the eagles and our defense would still suck.

Hot knife through butter defense couldn't stop the Washersfor 4 straight scoring drives.

Tom Brady made us look like we were standing still.

56 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

Rodgers has 2 years left on his contract with Green Bay at $25-26mil per year.

Why would Green Bay want to trade him?

 

It’s realistically only 1 year left, 2023 is a void year in which he’ll basically be a free agent.  So, they either trade him and get something now, or let him walk/retire.  Obviously depending on how this season finishes will weigh into the decision.

26 minutes ago, CouchKing said:

Okay, but why would the acquiring team pay good value? Are they unaware of the Rodgers retirement threat/risk.

It depends on what is considered "good value" - a 2nd or 3rd round pick for a team that is very close but needs a push over the top could be considered worth it.  And don't discount the buzz and marketing opportunities such a trade could bring to his new team.

4 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

This is a case of a free agent going to the best option. There are 3 teams in the AFC West better than Denver. Cleveland had a better QB than Philly and did worse. Dallas is a dumpster fire, and we still have the same core that made the playoffs 4 of the last 5 years. There are better options out there, but they’re not Denver. 

Rodgers is not a free agent bud. The best available 2022 free agent quarterback is Winston. The Eagles would have to pay out the nose (draft wise, and financially) to land Rodgers. 

2 hours ago, FitzIsAtTheAirport said:

It’s realistically only 1 year left, 2023 is a void year in which he’ll basically be a free agent.  So, they either trade him and get something now, or let him walk/retire.  Obviously depending on how this season finishes will weigh into the decision.

Either way Rodgers isn’t thinking about joining some rebuild. He’s leaving Green Bay to try and pursue another ring. The Saints are much closer to being that kind of team than we are although I believe they have a lot of cap issues too. 

3 hours ago, beto_eagles said:

I disagree. I think the Colts have better OL, better RB and a good defense as well. But both points are valid. 

What do the Colts have to offer in order to get Rodgers? The Giants, Jets, and Eagles could easily offer more. 

Several narratives in this thread I don't agree with. 

1. You have many very good QBs in the market with trade power over who they go to, or just many in general. Not that many can give away a first, etc. I don't think it would take 2 firsts for either Rodgers, Wilson, or Watson. Are the Watson cases still open? Then you have the QBs that other teams will take high in the draft. It's a buyer's market for good QBs right now.

2. Minshew shifts in the pocket and makes that throw to Watkins, and other throws that would have won us the game. He put up a fight against Dallas with a backup OL and 2nd/3rd stringers. 

3. Gannon kept us in the game through the 3rd quarter. The refs gifted Tb with their first TD and the Eagles offense / special teams did the rest. Gannon with more talent would be just fine, and letting him grow and continue to develop players would be a great option over the usual names.

On 1/17/2022 at 8:34 AM, Procus said:

True, but the head coach is also limited by his own limitations. 

Agree. People put all the Blame on the QB...and that's fine because he has the ball. But the one thing that I got from the Tampa Game, is that we were severely!!! outcoached. Our coaches were 1 step behind the entire game. And when the players are put into the position to loose..that's exactly what happens. Only New Orleans had the right plan to play TB. They blitzed, or their front  4 were effective enough, to beat Brady. And one time we blitzed..we sacked Brady. So Why oh Why did Gannon decide to sit back in Tampa?!? I will never understand. Brady picked us apart , just like he did to most other teams. I supported Gannon for most of the season, but I was very disappointed after TB game.He should have blitzed a lot more.

On 1/17/2022 at 11:19 AM, Procus said:

Don't be fooled by the playoff seeding the Eagles enjoyed this year.   Expectations were way too high, and the Eagles educated the fan base who and what the team really is yesterday.  The team was never that good, from the coaching staff down to the roster.  Without Jeff Stoutland, they are a losing team.  The head coach is okay, but as it stands right now, this guy will not get you to the promised land.  The roster still needs an overhaul pretty much from top to bottom.  The team's strength for the past few years - the right side of the line - is aging.  The D Line needs to be beefed up.  We saw yesterday that a significant upgrade is needed at the QB position.  The rest of the defense needs an upgrade as well.  Plainly stated, the Eagles need a rebuild from top to bottom. 

Don't make any major splash moves.  Draft the best player available.  A few boring free agent signings.  And get ready to replace Siri with Mike Kafka next year.  This team has some major work to do.  Maybe in 2024 we can expect to see a team on the rise.  For the next couple of years, I have no expectations of seeing any consistent good play out of this team.

My expectations weren't too high; I don't know anyone who understands football that expected anything more from this team. And Franz Kafka would probably be a better choice, but he's been dead going on near 100 years. But otherwise I agree with everything you said.

On 1/17/2022 at 11:22 AM, downundermike said:

The head coach is limited by the QB.

Or vice versa?

On 1/17/2022 at 1:40 PM, Aerolithe_Lion said:

How much of what TB did was based on turnovers by our O, sacks, field position? A new QB absolutely can improve his defense’s performance

It is pointless to get a new QB. Consensus is that there are no great college QBs coming out this year; and for a team who needs a major rebuild, why trade for a 40-year-old or jailbait? Get some young players, cut the old overpaid ones, and within a couple years we might be good.

Well at least you guys have something new to argue about that will never happen....  Wait nevermind.... 

11 hours ago, EazyEaglez said:

Rodgers is not a free agent bud. The best available 2022 free agent quarterback is Winston. The Eagles would have to pay out the nose (draft wise, and financially) to land Rodgers. 

A 1st this year & next, a 3rd, a 5th, Hurts, Sanders, Dillard...git it done Howie!  

50 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Well at least you guys have something new to argue about that will never happen....  Wait nevermind.... 

You can't have an offseason without drama around this team, there's always something.

8 minutes ago, NOTW said:

You can't have an offseason without drama around this team, there's always something.

It's not even the off season and people have been talking about Aaron Rodgers since the end of last year lol. That's why I said wait nevermind lol