May 20, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: This case hasn't gotten me emotional. Your insanely crazy takes just blow my mind. But considering the source, I guess I really shouldn't have been surprised. When have I said that there may not be more to the story than the 25 second clip? Have I said that there shouldn't be a trial to determine all the facts? Nope. What I am saying is Arbery's past transgressions bear absolutely no relevance to this case. And your tactic is clear as day, and pathetic. Funny how in all your deep digging into the history of all the men involved, you didn't bother to mention that the elder McMichael lost his power to arrest from 2006 to 2014 for failing to keep up with his required training. And he didn't alert his supervisors until 2014. An innocent oversight on your part, I'm sure..... Which takes do you consider most crazy? That the dudes were likely, in their mind, attempting to make a citizens arrest? That they might not be found guilty of murder because it will be difficult to prove malice aforethought? What's got you so upset?
May 20, 20205 yr 10 minutes ago, downundermike said: There is absolutely nothing that can be brought to light that makes citizens executing the death penalty for a non death penalty crime acceptable. I hope those two racist POS's burn in hell sooner rather than later. Lol. Get a grip my man.
May 20, 20205 yr 1 minute ago, SNOORDA said: Lol. Get a grip my man. People trying to justify the actions of the murderer's are the ones who need to get a grip on reality.
May 20, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Look, this is just what Kz!!!! does when a crime is committed. He always does a thorough check into the background of the victim. Remember the Immigration thread on the old board? Full of one-off tweets posted by Kz!!!!!! about an illegal immigrant committing a crime and then always followed up by pages and pages of him investigating the victim to find out if there's some possible justification for the crime. Every single time. Right now, for instance, in the Misc. PC thread, he posted a tweet about a black guy killing a white woman followed by an in-depth analysis of the victim's past, just to make sure the crime wasn't justified. It's just Kz!!!!!'s style. I'll run my posts past the PC police to make sure they don't offend your delicate sensibilities, OK bud? I don't fully understand why something like a dude with 63 priors murdering an old grandmother doesn't get more attention in the mainstream media and doesn't spark a nationwide debate about criminal justice reform. I mean, I feel like it's just a baffling, gross failure of our justice system that allows a guy like that to pray on innocent people much in the same way you probably feel like the McMichaels not being charged was a failure of our system. Why shouldn't it be discussed in CVON?
May 20, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, Kz! said: I'll run my posts past the PC police to make sure they don't offend your delicate sensibilities, OK bud? I don't fully understand why something like a dude with 63 priors murdering an old grandmother doesn't get more attention in the mainstream media and doesn't spark a nationwide debate about criminal justice reform. I mean, I feel like it's just a baffling, gross failure of our justice system that allows a guy like that to pray on innocent people much in the same way you probably feel like the McMichaels not being charged was a failure of our system. Why shouldn't it be discussed in CVON? It should be discussed. You posted it and it was discussed. Yet no one in the other thread is trying to dig into the grandma's past to find out if she was ever arrested or ever wet her bed. You know why? Because it doesn't matter. She was murdered. She's the victim. Just like Aubrey's the victim. So stop trying to trash the guy. Your obvious agenda is showing.
May 20, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: It should be discussed. You posted it and it was discussed. Yet no one in the other thread is trying to dig into the grandma's past to find out if she was ever arrested or ever wet her bed. You know why? Because it doesn't matter. She was murdered. She's the victim. Just like Aubrey's the victim. So stop trying to trash the guy. Your obvious agenda is showing. And this case is being discussed. Arbery's past run-ins with the law were cited by the DA who declined to press charges initially, so they seem to be somewhat relevant in this case. 15 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: now comes the Kz victim card. right on queue. In what way did I play the victim card, Mr. Irrelevant?
May 20, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, Kz! said: Which takes do you consider most crazy? That the dudes were likely, in their mind, attempting to make a citizens arrest? That they might not be found guilty of murder because it will be difficult to prove malice aforethought? What's got you so upset? lololol again with the bullsh-t citizens arrest argument. How many times does it have to be explained to you that this argument is dead in the water before it finally sinks in. For the millionth time, they did not witness a crime, therefore they could not be attempting to make a citizens arrest. Every time you make this argument, you display your purposeful ignorance. Too bad you weren't at the scene to do your part to sprinkle crank on Arbery before the police showed up. I'm sure it hurts that you couldn't help.
May 20, 20205 yr Just now, Phillyterp85 said: lololol again with the bullsh-t citizens arrest argument. How many times does it have to be explained to you that this argument is dead in the water before it finally sinks in. For the millionth time, they did not witness a crime, therefore they could not be attempting to make a citizens arrest. Every time you make this argument, you display your purposeful ignorance. Too bad you weren't at the scene to do your part to sprinkle crank on Arbery before the police showed up. I'm sure it hurts that you couldn't help. What part of "in their mind" don't you understand? I've never said they applied citizens arrest law properly. Jesus Christ.
May 20, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: In what way did I play the victim card, Mr. Irrelevant? awww, are you getting upset that you are this predictable in you troll game ?
May 20, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: It should be discussed. You posted it and it was discussed. Yet no one in the other thread is trying to dig into the grandma's past to find out if she was ever arrested or ever wet her bed. You know why? Because it doesn't matter. She was murdered. She's the victim. Just like Aubrey's the victim. So stop trying to trash the guy. Your obvious agenda is showing. I have questions about her cookies. I bet she is the kind of person that puts raisins in place of chocolate chips
May 20, 20205 yr Just now, Kz! said: What part of "in their mind" don't you understand? I've never said they applied citizens arrest law properly. Jesus Christ. What part of "it doesn't matter what they claimed there intentions were" do you not understand? How does that matter? Ignorance of the law is not a justifiable defense. And considering that the elder McMichael is a former police officer, he certainly can't try to claim that. Let's say I see someone walk across my front yard, and I shoot them and kill them. I could try to claim that "in my mind" I thought they were trying to break into my home and so I thought I was in my right to kill them under the castle doctrine. And it wouldn't matter. That wouldn't be a justifiable defense. They wouldn't go, "oh,well in his mind he THOUGHT he was doing something that was legal, even though in reality it wasn't. So I guess we should let him go free then, since in his mind, he thought he was just exercising his right to defend his home"
May 20, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: What part of "it doesn't matter what they claimed there intentions were" do you not understand? How does that matter? Ignorance of the law is not a justifiable defense. And considering that the elder McMichael is a former police officer, he certainly can't try to claim that. Let's say I see someone walk across my front yard, and I shoot them and kill them. I could try to claim that "in my mind" I thought they were trying to break into my home and so I thought I was in my right to kill them under the castle doctrine. And it wouldn't matter. That wouldn't be a justifiable defense. They wouldn't go, "oh,well in his mind he THOUGHT he was doing something that was legal, even though in reality it wasn't. So I guess we should let him go free then, since in his mind, he thought he was just exercising his right to defend his home" Phillyterp, slow down. I've never said these guys are going to be completely exonerated or that they didn't act inappropriately. When I started arguing about this case it was to challenge the initial narrative that a bunch of white racists hunted a black guy for jogging in the south. That's it. It turns out, there was way more to the story (burglaries in the area, cctv footage of Arbery in the house on the day, and someone matching his description in the house at night, etc. etc.). Does that mean I think Arbery should be shot by those dudes? No. Do I think people should be shot for entering a construction site? No. 16 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: awww, are you getting upset that you are this predictable in you troll game ? Jeebus, it was a simple question. When did I play the victim card? You can't even back that up while you're dangling from my nutsack. Sad.
May 20, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Phillyterp, slow down Jeebus, it was a simple question. When did I play the victim card? You can't even back that up while you're dangling from my nutsack. Sad. too easy. 18 minutes ago, Kz! said: Completely eviscerated and this is the response? Pathetic.
May 20, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: too easy. That was me playing the victim card in a different thread in a different conversation? lmao ok
May 20, 20205 yr 19 minutes ago, Kz! said: In what way did I play the victim card, Mr. Irrelevant? Media-victim. Every time. The (liberal) media must cover everything equally (right wing media, not so much) or else you've been victimized by them. It's tragic.
May 20, 20205 yr 18 minutes ago, Kz! said: Jeebus, it was a simple question. When did I play the victim card? You can't even back that up while you're dangling from my nutsack. Sad. cute, going for the hanging from your nutsack angle because you're being exposed as the insignificant **** that you are. keep going, corky.
May 20, 20205 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: cute, going for the hanging from your nutsack angle because you're being exposed as the insignificant **** that you are. keep going, corky. Still haven't pointed out where exactly I played the victim card, lmao. Do you want to be irrelevant? Because this is how you become irrelevant. You're boring. 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Media-victim. Every time. The (liberal) media must cover everything equally (right wing media, not so much) or else you've been victimized by them. It's tragic. lmao, oh. I guess I was giving off those vibes, lmao.
May 20, 20205 yr 20 minutes ago, Kz! said: Phillyterp, slow down. I've never said these guys are going to be completely exonerated or that they didn't act inappropriately. When I started arguing about this case it was to challenge the initial narrative that a bunch of white racists hunted a black guy for jogging in the south. That's it. It turns out, there was way more to the story (burglaries in the area, cctv footage of Arbery in the house on the day, and someone matching his description in the house at night, etc. etc.). Does that mean I think Arbery should be shot by those dudes? No. Do I think people should be shot for entering a construction site? No. 1) can you cite all these crimes that happened in the neighborhood, and the description of suspects that matched what Arbery looked like? 2) CCTV footage of Arbery and a bunch of other people that look absolutely nothing like Abrery going through the house. 3) You've repeatedly made the "in their mind they were performing a citizen's arrest" argument, as if that provides some sort of justification. 4) You've brought up past trangressions of Arbery's, as if that has any relevance whatsoever to this case (while conveniently ignoring the fact that McMichael had lost his power to arrest for several years and failed to report it to his supervisor and was temporary stripped of his firearm). Seems like you are only interested in looking into past trangressions of the victim for some weird reason..... 5) You've acted as if it was the McMichaels, and not Arbery, who had the right to use deadly force to defend themselves in this situation, which is just absolute lunacy. If you are going for a jog, minding your own business, and someone stops you in your path armed with a shotgun, it is you who has the right to use deadly force to defend themselves. The armed man stopping you in your path is the aggressor.
May 20, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: Still haven't pointed out where exactly I played the victim card, lmao. Do you want to be irrelevant? Because this is how you become irrelevant. You're boring. lmao, oh. I guess I was giving off those vibes, lmao. you knew exactly how you played the victim card. you do it daily, but of course you play dumb. comes natural I know, I know. its shows with all your emoji use. also, you seem to be laboring under the delusion that I care if I become irrelevant in your eyes. keep doing that please.
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